That's true. And also my point. You can role any origin any way you want. Noble. Pragmatic. A**hole. You can be an mage who loves or hates the circle. You can be a city elf who hates shem's or loves them and their maker. You could be dwarf noble who enjoys political violence and admires your brother's plan to get you out of the way or be someone who would rather avoid unnecessary deaths and hates him for killing your elder brother and leading to your father's death.
So saying city elf could never spare Loghain just seems wrong to me. There are alot of wardens who would. Those that hate the aliange might see it as a good thing, maybe now elves will stop living in a human controlled pen, it probably cost less then another purge but the idea of slavery is much more abhorrent then death that it might drive some of them out of the city. Those that are logical thinkers could see the benefits of another warden. Those that have a strong faith in the maker might spare him for some religious reason. Maybe an honorable elf would refuse to execute an unarmed man, that's a matter for the state. A sadistic elf might think a quick death to good for him and plan on dragging it out once the blight is over. Maybe you feel pity for him you see just how broken and insane he is at the landsmeet. Or your trying to be the better elf and not be ruled by hate and rage and show that you are better then human and show mercy where you are certain a human wouldn't. Then of course you have the warden who is committed to the wardens and realizes that anything and anyone must be sacrificed to stop the blight, your own wants and desires among them, and while you don't agree with what he did you refuse to waste an asset in the war against the archdeamon.
It all depends on how you role the character but depending on how you play the city elf it is reasonable to spare Loghain in certain situations. I don't personally, but I can see others doing it if they think it falls in line with their character and telling them they shouldn't goes against what the game is all about. Particularly if they just want to see that content but don't know if they want to spend another 100 hours getting their so want to use an old save but need to feel it's reasonable. I spared him once just to see and wasn't that impressed, but I don't like sten either so hey, everyone can make their own judgments.
I agree. I have spared Loghain only once, with my canon Warden – (f)Aeducan. And while I agree that dwarves might have the least reason to kill him during the Landsmeet, her reasons for recruiting him were varied.
On one hand, she spent most of the time up to this point trying to unite different factions of Ferelden and raise large enough army to fight the Archdemon. A no easy task on its own, but made nearly impossible by Loghain’s betrayal at Ostagar, his hunt for the Wardens and other actions. Sometimes I felt I had to clean up after the mess he caused (events of the Broken Circle, arl Eamon’s poisoning, situation in Denerim, to name a few) more than I was actually fighting darkspawn.
Having said this, my Aeducan understands politics and its cost, even though she despises it (all she ever wanted was to be another Sheld of Orzammar, never the queen). She didn’t take any of Loghain’s actions personally.
And while he proved to be paranoid, narrow-minded, easily manipulated fool in not seeing the Blight that was right in front of him, she can appriciate that he did what he thought necessary in order to protect his people. She herself was raised to act in the same way (e.g. despite hating Branka for dooming an entire house, she sided with her, thinking that an army of golems will help Orzammar in the long run).
But it doesn’t mean my Aeducan forgave Loghain. Basically, making him a Warden was an act of mercy and the greatest revange she could think of.
In the eve of battle with the Archdemon you need as many Wardens as possible, especially in the light of Riordan’s revelation. If Loghain survived the Joining, he could be the sacrifice, instead of Alistair or herself. And it would be an atonement of a sort for his previous actions.
If Loghain died during the Joining, well… tough. Either way, making him join the ranks of preople he despised and actively hunted is an act of poetic justice, while not beheading him is just common sense. My Aeducan has just created an alliance with Anora by offering her Alistair’s hand in marriage, and she was not about to throw it away so foolishly.
[On a side note, while she loves Alistair dearly, she was deeply annoyed, offended even, by his refusal to step up during interregnum. Having royal blood in your veins means you take responsibilty for your people, especially in the time of peril, no matter your personal preference, damnit! Ancestors made you what you are, you shouldn’t deny it.]
I imagine all Wardens will have their own reasons for killing/executing/sparing Loghain – it all depends on how you play them.
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