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[Hanako Ikezawa]

I'm wondering if they'll implement a 'keep' system similar to what Dragon Age had for Inquisition in order to 'carry over' history.

Personally I would like to maintain a record of what my Shepard did from the trilogy to exist in Andromeda in some form, even if it's cut off from just before the ending.

I hope so. I know they say they are mainly focusing on moving forward, but they did say there would be hints and references to the old games. It wouldn't have to do anything major, just change a few Codex entries and maybe alter a few pieces of dialogue. 

 

I have no doubt that they will implement one for Andromeda and it's sequels though. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Or you could take a chill pill....

You made me think of this. 

Thanks for the laugh. 

[Arcian]

There is no tech to retconn. The arks initiative are just a longer Manswell Expedition, which was launched from Earth over 100 years before the start of ME1...

100 years to travel 4.4 light years, and Andromeda is 2,500,000 light years away. Such a journey would take 568,000,000 years. That's over half a billion years to get dinged up by a gazillion space particles. The ship would completely disintegrate from micrometeroid impacts long before it left the Milky Way.

 

Even at Mass Effect FTL speeds, it would take well over 500 years. And that's without turning off the Mass Effect drive even once. How do you fit enough power storage and heat sinks on a ship to last that long? And this isn't even getting into the extra energy needed to account for the mass of that extra power storage and those extra heat sinks. Any mass added to the ship makes it more costly to achieve FTL.

 

Q.E.D, conventional travel to Andromeda is impossible. They should've just cribbed from Interstellar and gone with some dark energy wormhole instead.

[DextroDNA]

You know, regardless of how they handle us getting to Andromeda...

 

I am really excited to carry on in the Mass Effect universe. The trailer got me super-hyped. Seeing the krogan, salarian, asari (maybe turians as well?), all the classic ME-aesthetics in the buildings and ships and classic weapons like the Carnifex and M-8 Avenger are making me pretty confident that this is going to feel like classic Mass Effect but with a whole lot of new stuff added.

 

Can't wait for N7 day and early 2017

[capn233]

Q.E.D, conventional travel to Andromeda is impossible. They should've just cribbed from Interstellar and gone with some dark energy wormhole instead.

 

Should have had to build a bigass relay like the Citadel to catapult the Ark.  Since we are making up fiction, might as well make it single use for reasons.

[Kabooooom]

Nope OP, Walters more or less just confirmed that the ark ships leave pre ME3:

He wasn't even very cryptic about it. He said "the ME3 endings won't matter at all in Andromeda, and from that you can infer when the travelers left the Milky Way to a certain extent".

[Iakus]

Or you could take a chill pill....

Or you can acknowledge that not everyone was exactly happy with how we left things in ME3

[Malanek]

From that particular comment we can't be sure it wasn't during the events of ME3. But I think pre-me3 is much more likely given the trailer and would mean that the genophage isn't cured which is also very important.

[Kabooooom]

From that particular comment we can't be sure it wasn't during the events of ME3. But I think pre-me3 is much more likely given the trailer and would mean that the genophage isn't cured which is also very important.

Well, a recent redditor proved that the image of the Ark ships in orbit was in fact an image taken directly from real life orbital views of Earth. So they were in orbit from a non-destroyed Earth. That COULD have meant they left post ME3, but his comment pretty much confirms what most of us have always suspected - a pre ending of the Reaper War departure. In this case, probably pre ME3 since Earth is intact.

The other line of evidence that I think pretty much definitively proves when they left is the M-40 Mako. We used the M-35 Mako and M-44 Hammerhead during the trilogy. Clearly, tech is not as advanced as it looks and differences are just artistic leeway.

They left during the original trilogy sometime. I really don't think there is any question at this point.

[capn233]

It's a shame all those selfish Ark colonists took all the best technology with them and didn't leave any to fight the Reapers.

[Iakus]

 
Even at Mass Effect FTL speeds, it would take well over 500 years. And that's without turning off the Mass Effect drive even once. How do you fit enough power storage and heat sinks on a ship to last that long? And this isn't even getting into the extra energy needed to account for the mass of that extra power storage and those extra heat sinks. Any mass added to the ship makes it more costly to achieve FTL.
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Not to mention the static buildup requires the core be discharged every few days or it discharges into the hull, killing the crew.

A trip lasting several centuries would leave the ark a bunch of fused lumps of metal before they even left the MW.

[capn233]

^Which is why the speculations^TM are that they are using something like a Reaper core which allegedly doesn't need to be refueled or discharged.

[Kabooooom]

^Which is why the speculations^TM are that they are using something like a Reaper core which allegedly doesn't need to be refueled or discharged.

Except there are at least three Ark ships shown in that trailer. Pre-Reaper War, where did they get their hands on three Reaper cores to power the ships? The only Reaper that was killed was Sovereign. Cerberus got their hands on the remainder of the human Reaper and the derelict Reaper core was destroyed and then the entire thing fell into a brown dwarf.

The only known existing derelict Reaper is the Leviathan of Dis, and the Batarians aren't playing ball with that.

So at most they could have one - Sovereign's.

[Iakus]

^Which is why the speculations^TM are that they are using something like a Reaper core which allegedly doesn't need to be refueled or discharged.

Impossible if done before ME3

Insanely dangerous if after Remember what happened in Arrival

[capn233]

Except there are at least three Ark ships shown in that trailer. Pre-Reaper War, where did they get their hands on three Reaper cores to power the ships? The only Reaper that was killed was Sovereign. Cerberus got their hands on the remainder of the human Reaper and the derelict Reaper core was destroyed and then the entire thing fell into a brown dwarf.

 

Space magic apparently.  Don't shoot the messenger.

[capn233]

Impossible if done before ME3

Insanely dangerous if after Remember what happened in Arrival

 

Apparently this will be handwaved, probably with a nod to the shield Bryson had.

[Kabooooom]

Space magic apparently. Don't shoot the messenger.

Just sayin, it's one of many many many problems I have with this plot.

And I have always been someone that supported the Ark theory and predicted the move to Andromeda back in the day. I think, overall, it is a great idea to start the series again in a fresh and exciting way.

But there's a LOT of lore issues with it, there always has been and many fans will be pissed if they hand wave them away. I know I won't be happy if they do that.

[Drone223]

Impossible if done before ME3

Insanely dangerous if after Remember what happened in Arrival

Especially since those ark ships look like they're logistically and economically demanding there is no why the galaxy would be able to build those ark ships and have resources to spare to build the crucible.

[Sekrev]

Not to mention the static buildup requires the core be discharged every few days or it discharges into the hull, killing the crew.

A trip lasting several centuries would leave the ark a bunch of fused lumps of metal before they even left the MW.

 

Space stations and for instance the citadel apparently have solutions to deal with this. I'd imagine some similar feature can be built into these, practically space-station sized ships.

 

However it ends up, there'll be some handwaving involved I guess.

[Kabooooom]

Space stations and for instance the citadel apparently have solutions to deal with this. I'd imagine some similar feature can be built into these, practically space-station sized ships.

However it ends up, there'll be some handwaving involved I guess.

Maybe that's what the four, glowing arms of the ships are for - drive discharge.

[Malanek]

The stasis pods and life support systems will be powered by the static discharge. Two birds with one stone.

 

I like the fact Walters said the journey would take a long time. It is important that it is extremely difficult to cross between galaxies to keep things separate. So I think it should be done using a different, rather than superior, technology.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Except there are at least three Ark ships shown in that trailer. Pre-Reaper War, where did they get their hands on three Reaper cores to power the ships? The only Reaper that was killed was Sovereign. Cerberus got their hands on the remainder of the human Reaper and the derelict Reaper core was destroyed and then the entire thing fell into a brown dwarf.

The only known existing derelict Reaper is the Leviathan of Dis, and the Batarians aren't playing ball with that.

So at most they could have one - Sovereign's.

They also have the wreckage of the Collector ship that attacked Fehl Prime and the data retrieved from it like ship and system schematics.

[azarhal]

Space stations and for instance the citadel apparently have solutions to deal with this. I'd imagine some similar feature can be built into these, practically space-station sized ships.

 

However it ends up, there'll be some handwaving involved I guess.

 

 

They just need plasma contactor units, that's what the International Space Station use to discharge itself...

[Kabooooom]

They also have the wreckage of the Collector ship that attacked Fehl Prime and the data retrieved from it like ship and system schematics.

This is a good point. Still, building one of these things in six months (assuming post ME2, pre ME3 departure) is a massive undertaking...but building three??

I still favor (Han's, iirc) idea that they are actually ancient ships, built by the Asari during the Rachni war as a plan B in case the Krogan failed. After all, the Reapers weren't the first time the galaxy faced extinction.

[spinachdiaper]

It's sounding again like they are taking the cowards way to set MEA up. The pre-ME3 ending lore bail out created by jumping to Andromeda before ME1,2,3 is outlandish insulting trash.