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[Thibax]

A hybrid

[SolNebula]

Could be a gene project in which she's half human and half asari would explain why she's on a likely secret mission for a human military. Before you cry about how that's not possible...it sure would be with ME technology. Asari aren't magical beings here they reproduce asexually (Parthenogenesis, yes y'all can claim its sexual or w/e I don't care, but parthenogenesis is an asexual process), but beyond that they are still subject to the same biological and technology advances in ME. So this could be one of the first reproduced sexually by manipulating their DNA or through a genetic project substituting some human DNA with asari DNA.

 

Hope you're wrong. We already had the reaper troops for monsters and freaks. No need to create our own versions

[fizzypop]

"But we're all hairless".
 

except eyelashes are hair....lol so they can't be.

[Mcfly616]

If I had to bet if she looks the  same or she'll be different at release, I'd bet on the latter

 Hope you're right. From the eyebrows to the eye black to the weird facial expression....she needs work

[fizzypop]

Considering we got a krogan and a salarian on the team, I don't see how this would be necessary.

It doesn't have to be necessary could be something they had already done before the mission and decided to allow her to go because why not? It isn't necessary for ANY non-human species to be on that ship. In fact I would say that's a huge liability. Salarian kind of make sense, but krogan don't at all.

[ZipZap2000]

How is the explosion justified in your theory?
So we're going now from not being attractive to not being Mass Effect? Nice.
She looks like an asari to me. She looks different from other asari, but I'd recognize her instantly as an asari. I think they mentioned some changes on the species from the MW though in some off-screen conventions though.
As for the LI, she won't be the only LI in the game (if she'll ever be one). Did you romance only Liara in the ME trilogy?

Your question leads me to my next point.

No, I romanced them all. Because I felt compelled to experience that content. Through looks and personality each character impressed a desirable outcome on me the player. Leading to my Shepards experiencing those moments.

Problem I have with inquisition and space Pocahontas here is my desire not to romance characters leads to me feel less compelled to replay it. Knowing that the added LI content is undesirable simply means there's less for me to experience.

Which means I don't play the game 8-12 times. I play it 3-5 times.

Then Shelve it and let it gather dust.

[fizzypop]

Hope you're wrong. We already had the reaper troops for monsters and freaks. No need to create our own versions

Shrug. I don't really care either way. This wouldn't even bother me if it was a retcon. I hate asari and would prefer none of them coming along, but to act as if its out of the realm of possibility to come up with a viable explanation is just well ridiculous. Whether they will bother is a whole other ball game.

[NRieh]

Also I don't think we've seen an Asari with a human parent either

we've seen asari with a krogan parent (which is Liara's daddy) Visually she was no ant different than pureblood Liara, or any other asari in the game. 

 

Good point, op.  But that could be just a pre-alpha model. E.g. Morrigan in her first trailer was really different than Morrigan we've got in the release. They still have time to change that.

[Giantdeathrobot]

Some people are really making a big deal out of seeing a character all of five seconds.

[In Exile]

At least this isn't about sweat.

The reality is simple: retconning eyebrows is no less ridiculous than the fact that all Asari have conventional and convenient eyebrow tattoos. If they had some real variance that would be one thing - mostly they do not.

[SolNebula]

Some people are really making a big deal out of seeing a character all of five seconds.

 

Isn't it the BSN? We like to have fun this way

[archav3n]

eyebrow or not.. this asari looks freaking ugly.. i'm not sure if this is a joke

[Sekrev]

The reality is simple: retconning eyebrows is no less ridiculous than the fact that all Asari have conventional and convenient eyebrow tattoos. If they had some real variance that would be one thing - mostly they do not.

 

I thought the eyebrow tattoo-like pattern thing wasn't too bad. The drawn on eyebrows for Liara are tacky as hell though, never liked that. Hope they won't slap eyebrows on every Asari because that's really totally unnecessary and takes away from them being more alien. There are other ways to convey expressions and emotions rather than just copying humans.

[Gannayev of Dreams]

We don't know why she has those eyebrows.

 

We don't know if she'll have them in the final version of the game.

 

For all we know those eyebrows are just in place to give the facial animators a visual guide when designing her expressions. They may be removed in the final product. I realize we have precious little to speculate on but this is getting a little absurd.

[Undead Han]

Some people are really making a big deal out of seeing a character all of five seconds.

Part of that is Bioware's fault. They're being unusually tight lipped about Andromeda, and hyped up Sunday only to roll out a trailer that was not much more substantive than the initial announcement teaser or that Johnny Cash CG trailer. There's very little to actually discuss besides the brief glimpse of a character who may or may not be important.

[The Elder King]

 Hope you're right. From the eyebrows to the eye black to the weird facial expression....she needs work

Cassandra and Morrigan both changed from their first apperance in TFA trailer, so I doubt she won't change. For good or worse I don't know.

 

It doesn't have to be necessary could be something they had already done before the mission and decided to allow her to go because why not? It isn't necessary for ANY non-human species to be on that ship. In fact I would say that's a huge liability. Salarian kind of make sense, but krogan don't at all.

I don't think it's necessary either, though I don't see why they'd be a liability. While our mission is to find humanity's new home/s, I doubt the MW species reached Andromeda and all go in different ways. 

Also, the leak mentioned

Spoiler

us helping retrieving the krogan colony ship, so it's not like we're all separated from each others.

 

Your question leads me to my next point.

No, I romanced them all. Because I felt compelled to experience that content. Through looks and personality each character impressed a desirable outcome on me the player. Leading to my Shepards experiencing those moments.

Problem I have with inquisition and space Pocahontas here is my desire not to romance characters leads to me feel less compelled to replay it. Knowing that the added LI content is undesirable simply means there's less for me to experience.

Which means I don't play the game 8-12 times. I play it 3-5 times.

Then Shelve it and let it gather dust.

Fair enough.

[ZipZap2000]

Half serious theory that makes sense.

Protheans modified Asari, right?

We need tech to build Ark.

Find Prothean blue print.

Discover Protheans are remnants and took unmodified Asari to Andromeda.

Her face paint is tribal. Primitive.

She's a local.

Not serious but I like telling stories.

*Sips Ryncol*

[In Exile]

I thought the eyebrow tattoo-like pattern thing wasn't too bad. The drawn on eyebrows for Liara are tacky as hell though, never liked that. Hope they won't slap eyebrows on every Asari because that's really totally unnecessary and takes away from them being more alien. There are other ways to convey expressions and emotions rather than just copying humans.

Not if you want to convey emotions to humans. We can't read other species at all - and those things evolved on earth. The only species humans get right are dogs, and that's because they've evolved to mimic our expressions by way of our selective breeding habits. But otherwise without being taught to read their very counterintuitive expressions people get it wrong all the time.

We know how to read human faces. The hardest part about designing "friendly" aliens that don't look like Lovecraftian space horrors is keeping the general expressiveness and look of the human face.

Without eyebrows - or eyebrow equivalents - it's a lot harder for a game to show an expression because the fidelity of the face just isn't there.

And the other issue here is that the graphics are better - the paintent on eyebrows won't work well if Bioware's improved the fidelity of their facial expressions.

[Almostfaceman]

Asari don't have eyebrows. They have facial markings which may resemble eyebrows, or which might be tattooed on above the orbital ridge of the eye, but they do NOT have eyebrows.

 

And for those of you saying "It's just a game" or "It's fiction" or "why do you even care?" there is a very important answer.

 

In previous games, asari did not have eyebrows. None of them did. Not a single one. Not even Liara. The artists of those games could have established asari as having eyebrows through the same tricks that made it look like Shepard has eyebrows, but THEY DID NOT. Therefore, asari do not have eyebrows.

 

This new trailer shows that this asari does have eyebrows. Look closely, there is a difference between the raccoon smudge across her face and the delicate feathering that shows very clearly there are eyebrows.

 

This detail matters. It matters a great deal, because it shows very clearly that Bioware's artists are not paying attention to the established facts. And the only reason that Bioware's artists would not be paying attention to these established details is because the management, the producers and directors of the game, do not care about details.

 

The primary hallmark of any good science fiction is paying attention to the details, however small. If you establish something as a rule, you keep to that rule or point out exactly why it is a violation of the rule, and that explanation had better not violate another established rule.

 

Something as simple as one character having eyebrows who *shouldn't* have eyebrows shows a deep inability to pay attention to the details on the part of the people who are presenting the story. It is a prime indicator of how trustworthy the storyteller is.

 

This asari having eyebrows is a very good indicator that you cannot trust this storyteller, these writers, these artists. They don't care about consistency. They only care about the 'rule of looking good', and that always produces a crappy story.

 

Either that, or they just gave away, in an E3 trailer, this character's story twist that she is actually a human who's been surgically modified to look like an asari.

 

 

[RatThing]

I kind of agree with op here. Those Eyebrows were obviously added to make the Asari look more kawaii. Even if there is an explanation for that, it is probably forced and implausible. Really lame breaking the lore for something so silly.    

[En Es Ef Dubyu]

Well someone conversing with MG asked about the asari eyebrows and at that point there was no more response:

 

https://twitter.com/...126302719836160

[llandwynwyn]

Asari don't have eyebrows. They have facial markings which may resemble eyebrows, or which might be tattooed on above the orbital ridge of the eye, but they do NOT have eyebrows.

 

And for those of you saying "It's just a game" or "It's fiction" or "why do you even care?" there is a very important answer.

 

In previous games, asari did not have eyebrows. None of them did. Not a single one. Not even Liara. The artists of those games could have established asari as having eyebrows through the same tricks that made it look like Shepard has eyebrows, but THEY DID NOT. Therefore, asari do not have eyebrows.

 

This new trailer shows that this asari does have eyebrows. Look closely, there is a difference between the raccoon smudge across her face and the delicate feathering that shows very clearly there are eyebrows.

 

This detail matters. It matters a great deal, because it shows very clearly that Bioware's artists are not paying attention to the established facts. And the only reason that Bioware's artists would not be paying attention to these established details is because the management, the producers and directors of the game, do not care about details.

 

The primary hallmark of any good science fiction is paying attention to the details, however small. If you establish something as a rule, you keep to that rule or point out exactly why it is a violation of the rule, and that explanation had better not violate another established rule.

 

Something as simple as one character having eyebrows who *shouldn't* have eyebrows shows a deep inability to pay attention to the details on the part of the people who are presenting the story. It is a prime indicator of how trustworthy the storyteller is.

 

This asari having eyebrows is a very good indicator that you cannot trust this storyteller, these writers, these artists. They don't care about consistency. They only care about the 'rule of looking good', and that always produces a crappy story.

 

Either that, or they just gave away, in an E3 trailer, this character's story twist that she is actually a human who's been surgically modified to look like an asari.

 

Not only that, but that's the character they choose to show off.

[fizzypop]

Cassandra and Morrigan both changed from their first apperance in TFA trailer, so I doubt she won't change. For good or worse I don't know.

 

I don't think it's necessary either, though I don't see why they'd be a liability. While our mission is to find humanity's new home/s, I doubt the MW species reached Andromeda and all go in different ways. 

Also, the leak mentioned

Spoiler

us helping retrieving the krogan colony ship, so it's not like we're all separated from each others.

 

Fair enough.

it is a liability in that if the council got wind of it you know they would pitch a damn fit. For the most part why take along races for which humanity has rarely been involved in? I mean we are talking about a strictly human POV here, but being part of the intergalactic community is rather new for them. They are likely leaving before the reapers so many races don't even believe in the reapers. I could see humanity pissed about that still. All in all it seems rather unlikely to take many alien species along for the ride anyhow. So if they do it would have to be only a small amount that have "earned" a place imo. It really just seems like more of a liability though. I mean if you only take humans you don't have to worry about alien biology or alternative needs.

But I suppose if the council did help with this whole thing then sure bring aliens along, but then again if they did why are humans leading it? No way that Asari have allowed that lol.

[Mcfly616]

Well someone conversing with MG asked about the asari eyebrows and at that point there was no more response:

 

https://twitter.com/...126302719836160

 Stumped him. 

 

Pretty sad how Bioware still feels the need to humanize everyone and everything in their fictional universe. From Asari eyebrows to that pathetic photo of Tali...they should embrace the alienness of their universe. They should get weirder and stop worrying if this or that is physically attractive to a human. Their attempts to do so have only made the appearance of their characters more jarring. 

 

This is a Mature game series. They need to take off the kid gloves. Adults can handle some strange.

[Gwydden]

The primary hallmark of any good science fiction [..]

You appear to be confused. ME is not good science fiction. It is, and has always been, silly popcorn with very weak science and plots that fall apart if you think about them too hard. Far more Marvel than Asimov, if you will.

 

Moving on...