In my first playthrough I had Stroud as the warden friend of Hawke, as a result of using the keep to make the starting conditions of Inquisition as close as possible to my DA:O and DA 2 world state.
After that, I have always changed things around to get Loghain, as I quite like killing him again, and I get to keep Hawke.
For my latest playthrough though I thought it would be nice to see Alistair again. Bad idea.
Now I will have a really hard time at the end of Here Lies the Abyss. :/
I actually almost always choose Hawke to stay anyway. Not because I hate him/her - on the contrary, because I feel if anybody has a chance to survive in that situation it would be Hawke.
Ugh. This will always be my choice because I only play my canon world state. Punched. In. The. Feels.
Ugh. This will always be my choice because I only play my canon world state. Punched. In. The. Feels.
After seeing the endgame slides idk if I could save warden Alistair now... I'm almost always going to make him king.
As for killing HoF. Then Alistair to join her .. Idk that my heart could handle that heh. Some of the choices are painful now that I've beat tresspasser....
My Warden always saw him as a steel-plated sissy.
That's a result of a king sheltering him and hiding him, and an arl keeping him from experiencing reality and life for fear someone would find out his brother in law is a cheat. I always felt bad for alistair. His entire life determined and manipulated by royal sneaks trying to keep secrets.
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Well, at least he'll accomplish something with his life in the Fade. He'd make a terrible king, but he's a decent Warden (when he's not throwing tantrums and deserting, that is).
Love Steve Valentine, but something sounds "off", as the warden contact. His delivery of lines sounds out of place at times. Hmmm....not sure if I am describing it well, and it is solely my opinion. YMMV, as always.
He's a lot more world-weary. Comes with age.
Loghain is fun to have the "Warden contact", in DAI. Simon Templeman did a fantastic job (once again).
Oh yes, one of the reasons I enjoy having Loghain in DAI is that the VO and overall handling of the character is absolutely amazing.
He's a lot more world-weary. Comes with age.
That's just it though. It didn't sound world-weary to me (which would have worked well, for me). Just "off". Like I said though, seems I am having difficulty communicating the specifics of "off".
I also found it a bit "off". I can't decide if it's just because I had huge expectations or because of the delivery by the voice actor.
That's just it though. It didn't sound world-weary to me (which would have worked well, for me). Just "off". Like I said though, seems I am having difficulty communicating the specifics of "off".
Quieter, less enthusiastic?
Keep in mind too that Warden Alistair is hearing the Calling, which might account for him sounding a little "off."
Of course Hawke stays. Because it's the perfect ending to his story, and the surviving wardens need a commander. For me, Hawke is the man who can come out of this smelling like roses. And if everybody thinks he is death he can finally live his life without all this **** he had to be going through.
I actually almost always choose Hawke to stay anyway. Not because I hate him/her - on the contrary, because I feel if anybody has a chance to survive in that situation it would be Hawke.
I leave Hawke when I also have Alistair as well, because of what you said, but more specifically because of what Flemeth told Hawke in DA2 about diving into the abyss and learning to fly 
So in my mind, until proven otherwise Hawke is still kicking.
I leave Hawke when I also have Alistair as well, because of what you said, but more specifically because of what Flemeth told Hawke in DA2 about diving into the abyss and learning to fly
Yes, the word "Abyss" in the name of the quest is quite suspicious.)
I also count my Hawkes among the living until something in the game will tell me differently (not sure I'll believe it if even so - it has to be absolutely 100% no doubt proof).
That is actually.. heartbreaking.Here's a simple solution: kill the Warden, then have Alistair die in DAI. LET HIM JOIN HER IN DEATH.
Yes, the word "Abyss" in the name of the quest is quite suspicious.)
I also count my Hawkes among the living until something in the game will tell me differently (not sure I'll believe it if even so - it has to be absolutely 100% no doubt proof).
And not just the word "abyss" either, but the whole thing! Where is the abyss, Flemeth? Well, Here Lies the Abyss 
Me too, and I think it's worth noting that Weekes said that it wasn't confirmed that they died, since it wasn't shown outright. So there's that
And not just the word "abyss" either, but the whole thing! Where is the abyss, Flemeth? Well, Here Lies the Abyss
Me too, and I think it's worth noting that Weekes said that it wasn't confirmed that they died, since it wasn't shown outright. So there's that
Did he? Thanks for the info, it's interesting to know.)
Did he? Thanks for the info, it's interesting to know.)
Yeah, it was on twitter somewhere, sometime, if you feel like trying to dig it up You're welcome.
I like Sera now, but in my first playthrough I hated her. One of the first times I appreciated what she had to say was after Adamant:
"Loghain, huh? Not a lot of tears shed for that one."
Correct, Sera. Not a lot of tears at all. I always have Loghain as the Warden, and he always stays behind in the Fade. Looks like he finally earned his redemption.
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