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#26
Kayodee

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I never let Fenris to kill his sister. Fenris wants to leave behind his unmanageable anger. He also regretted that despite promises he killed Hadriana. 

(Fenris' romance one of the best in the DA-series. The other is Anders, for me.)

 

My personal hate & disapproval of slavery makes me understand his anger. Like when he took on you after Hadriana fight and then in tavern with his sister. I can understand that. It takes patience and time to build relationship with him, but you will rewarded with loyal companion and great warrior. If it wasn't for Carver I would take Fenris right from the beginnig with me on every single quest line, even the minor one. Thanks to him I started appreacite warrior's class more and took my time to research on the abilities. I don't like Aveline that much (yet) and rarily go with her, only to finish her quest lines at the end of the act. I adore Fenris even more because of his elven nature.

 

As for Anders romance, as I described in 'Revisiting DA II' topic, he broke my heart once and this time I was more annoyed with him.



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The sister is Danarius pet, and Anders is an abomination out of control, my Hawke saw them as potential threats.

 

 

Danarius is dead by then, and I can''t quite make myself kill Anders. For one thing my Hawke isn't certain that he's entirely wrong, for another he really is a brilliant healer and mage and saving Bethany is the priority over trying to fix things, and for a third they've been fighting side by side for years in the city and the deep roads and all over the countryside, and Anders has most likely saved Hawke's life on multiple occasions and vice versa. That means something, and to my not-so-intellectual warrior Hawke it means more than feeling obligated to kill him on principle - something she otherwise wouldn't have had a huge problem with.


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#28
Kayodee

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..Anders is an abomination out of control, my Hawke saw them as potential threats.

 

The reason I decided to kill Anders this time is this. First time I was romancing him and his decision just spoiled everything. I loved him and decided let him go, but later on he joined me to fight templars, even though romance was over (despite that, Varic told the Seeker at the end he follows Hawke, which was odd).

 

My second playthrough however after that blow I changed my mind. It was painful to see Anders' slow death, I thought I would be better than this and I am not the one who kills friends easily or, ex-friends so to speak and should not take personal anger out but.. Because of Hawke Anders could achieve this, and even though I refused to distract Elthina, Hawke *theoretically* could have prevented it. So to let him go again and letting Justice/Vengence to take over his mind so he can hurt even more innocent people, played for me. Also I was aware Seb will leave me again, and this time I actually liked him I decided to try this scenario. I was not proud, but I felt it was right thing to do.



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he really is a brilliant healer and mage and saving Bethany is the priority over trying to fix things, and for a third they've been fighting side by side for years in the city

 

Ohhh right, how could I forgot this! Anders saved my Bethany into the Deep Roads as well and he indeed was quite a good healer. I did not even know your siblings will die without Anders in your party during the expedition and it was so awesome to turn Beth into Grey Warden (even though, she was not quite excited as I was..) for which I was lucky enough have Anders. I fought alongside him during my first play as well and helped me alot, that is true.

 

Second time though I played as mage myself and learned the skills of healing so I was not in need of assistance. I haven't took Carver with me so he joined templars, again no help from Anders. Right now he is out of favor character for me, but I will look into opportunity to revisit this opinion later on.



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My personal hate & disapproval of slavery makes me understand his anger. Like when he took on you after Hadriana fight and then in tavern with his sister. I can understand that. It takes patience and time to build relationship with him, but you will rewarded with loyal companion and great warrior. If it wasn't for Carver I would take Fenris right from the beginnig with me on every single quest line, even the minor one. Thanks to him I started appreacite warrior's class more and took my time to research on the abilities. I don't like Aveline that much (yet) and rarily go with her, only to finish her quest lines at the end of the act. I adore Fenris even more because of his elven nature.

 

As for Anders romance, as I described in 'Revisiting DA II' topic, he broke my heart once and this time I was more annoyed with him.

His anger are understandable, but he hate this anger (this is undarstandable too).  He said:  "It’s poison, yet I continue to swallow it.”

I love Anders. He dont want to betray you, he just not want that you blame yourself for the explosion of the Chantry. (And I can understand si motive.) I dont tolerate Sebastian's blackmail, very not!

 



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Ohhh right, how could I forgot this! Anders saved my Bethany into the Deep Roads as well and he indeed was quite a good healer. I did not even know your siblings will die without Anders in your party during the expedition and it was so awesome to turn Beth into Grey Warden (even though, she was not quite excited as I was..) for which I was lucky enough have Anders. I fought alongside him during my first play as well and helped me alot, that is true.

 

Second time though I played as mage myself and learned the skills of healing so I was not in need of assistance. I haven't took Carver with me so he joined templars, again no help from Anders. Right now he is out of favor character for me, but I will look into opportunity to revisit this opinion later on.

 

I didn't take Bethany with me into the deep roads and was thinking more about securing the circle of which she's a part before the templars can carry out their Right of Annulment. Having Anders along would help, which is more important than executing him when Bethany's life is on the line. And I think that the game underplays just how popular a good healer would naturally be with the party no matter how much he goes on about politics.

 

And Fenris reluctantly going along with it was something of a victory. For my Hawke loyalty is reserved for people, not ideologies, and having him follow her directly over his political beliefs really made her day. Or would have, if things had been less chaotic.