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So about this leaving MW dilemma.


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Okay. So while.my shep cured the genophage someone else's didn't. I saved both quarians and geth, someone else killed the quarians. I chose control, others chose differently. You see what I'm saying? Bio already confirmed that no ending is canon and we are separated from the orig tril. I believe, of course we don't know for sure but it's better than most, that we leave before the events of ME3 considering Earth and the fleets are intact. People are talking about how the ark may be new tech. Chances are we already had the technology. The technology of all the resources are vast. If Cerberus was able to bring a dead person back to life surely we can build an ark. That's what I believe. Even the Alliance ships look the same. Maybe we're fleeing from the reapers, maybe we just want to explore but to me this is the most likely scenario.
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a messy conundrum.  You have to add the following, Apparently not only the endings but the "time to get to Andromeda" Factor (techs changed?)

 

Moreover, if the lowly MW races placed together an intergalactic travel form, what prevented the reapers of doing so? 

It is going to be a fun spectacle watching this being solved. 


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We're startin' ovah! **** the MW!

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a messy conundrum. You have to add the following, Apparently not only the endings but the "time to get to Andromeda" Factor (techs changed?)

Moreover, if the lowly MW races placed together an intergalactic travel form, what prevented the reapers of doing so?

It is going to be a fun spectacle watching this being solved.

I don't see any other choice. Reapers weren't programmed to go to Andromeda. They were made to solve the milky ways problems. You say this is a messy conundrum, you should see some of the other crazy theories. Looks like we're put into cryo freeze. Probably took us a couple hundred years. If it's like WALL E it wouldn't make sense.
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Okay. So while.my shep cured the genophage someone else's didn't. I saved both quarians and geth, someone else killed the quarians. I chose control, others chose differently. You see what I'm saying? Bio already confirmed that no ending is canon and we are separated from the orig tril. I believe, of course we don't know for sure but it's better than most, that we leave before the events of ME3 considering Earth and the fleets are intact. People are talking about how the ark may be new tech. Chances are we already had the technology. The technology of all the resources are vast. If Cerberus was able to bring a dead person back to life surely we can build an ark. That's what I believe. Even the Alliance ships look the same. Maybe we're fleeing from the reapers, maybe we just want to explore but to me this is the most likely scenario.

 

Man I wouldn't want to be the guy/guys writing this, this is a mess.

 

If we are leaving before the reapers arrive on Earth I'm pretty sure it has to be before ME3, the entire thing. However it would imply that the krogans in whatever ark they are were not cured and could potentially all die after arriving to the new galaxy due to shortage of people. As for quarrians they wouldn't be affected, however they would be even further from being able to live without their suits. Unless a new race with more knowledge on the Andromeda would help them.



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Man I wouldn't want to be the guy/guys writing this, this is a mess.

If we are leaving before the reapers arrive on Earth I'm pretty sure it has to be before ME3, the entire thing. However it would imply that the krogans in whatever ark they are were not cured and could potentially all die after arriving to the new galaxy due to shortage of people. As for quarrians they wouldn't be affected, however they would be even further from being able to live without their ships. Unless a new races with more knowledge on the Andromeda would help them.

I don't have the answers man. But everyone made different choices. There's nothing canon.

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The setting that makes the most sense is leaving before the events of Mass Effect 3 or at the very beginning before any major decisions are made, and then curing the genophage during the trip because apparently we cure that thing every other week anyway.

 

In other words, just sidestep the whole web of choices and ignore it.


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I actually don't see what you're saying. Using your examples, Krogan are around so the genophage outcome is obviously irrelevant/ignored. Quarians and geth are both history, so Rannoch's outcome is similarly irrelevant. What's the point of running away from the MW if we were just gonna delete/ ignore those elements anyway?



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Bringing a dead person back to life may in fact be easier than getting to another galaxy in a relatively small amount of time.



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I actually don't see what you're saying. Using your examples, Krogan are around so the genophage outcome is obviously irrelevant/ignored. Quarians and geth are both history, so Rannoch's outcome is similarly irrelevant. What's the point of running away from the MW if we were just gonna delete/ ignore those elements anyway?

Who knows.

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Leaving the Quarians and Geth out is the smoothest option possible for Bioware



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Bringing a dead person back to life may in fact be easier than getting to another galaxy in a relatively small amount of time.

Who said it was a small amount of time? Looks like we're being put into cryo.

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Leaving the Quarians and Geth out is the smoothest option possible for Bioware

I wouldn't mind but people are going to be mad.

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Leaving the Quarians and Geth out is the smoothest option possible for Bioware

 

I honestly think it's the best choice too. And also we are going to face new races, wouldn't want the place to feel too crowded.

 

Humans, Salarians, Asari, Krogan, Remnants, Keth, Flying Wales and Brutes are pretty much confirmed already.



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Leaving the Quarians and Geth out is the smoothest option possible for Bioware

 

We could just take the Quarians and leave the toasters behind.


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Well we see Earth in the video and there doesn't seem to be any reapers around so I would guess that the launch takes place while Shapard is in jail, So the Genophage is still there but so should the quarrians and Geth.



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Well we see Earth in the video and there doesn't seem to be any reapers around so I would guess that the launch takes place while Shapard is in jail, So the Genophage is still there but so should the quarrians and Geth.

 

What about the missplaced ships with the yellow light rays? Who's are those?



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What about the missplaced ships with the yellow light rays? Who's are those?

Salarian?



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We could just take the Quarians and leave the toasters behind.

This unit says 'Wait wut?'

 

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Leaving the Quarians and Geth out is the smoothest option possible for Bioware

So then what's the point of Andromeda in that case? Could've just included a vague codex entry on either or both returning behind the Veil to never be heard from again. There, sidestepped. 

 

No, the only reason this ridiculous detour exists is because Hac and Lazey crapped the bed with (some of) the endings they farted out, and were too prideful to fix it, but EA still wants money off a lucrative IP. 



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Leaving the Quarians and Geth out is the smoothest option possible for Bioware

Yeah, who cares about the fans who will have their favorite races left out? Those fan's feelings are expendable, as long as we appeal to the other fans.  <_<



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What about the missplaced ships with the yellow light rays? Who's are those?

Alliance cruisers if you ever seen one.

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Yeah, who cares about the fans who will have their favorite races left out? Those fan's feelings are expendable, as long as we appeal to the other fans. <_<

You're so cold. ;) I do agree with new fans though. Been trying to get more people interested for years.

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If Geth and Quarians do make an appearance, it could be brought down to, not every member of the species (I am counting the Geth as a species) being killed either way. That's entirely plausible.

 

I understand that in Mass Effect 3, it is reported that the Quarians across the galaxy are returning to the Migrant Fleet. This does not actually mean that all of the Quarians are doing that. The same goes for the Geth. There could be any number of Geth still active, despite the Quarians killing them all in the battle. Not every human got on a ship and joined the fight to retake Earth. Not every Krogan returned home to defend Tuchunka. Not every Turian was fighting on Palaven. Not every Asari died on Thessia.

 

There is no actual evidence that either species are extinct due to whatever action was taken. Certainly, a massive blow to the population that would take years upon years for them to recover, but not extinct.

 

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As for technology. I am under the impression that the Ark leaves after the events of the Reaper War. Once the Reapers are defeated, it would allow the galactic community to reach new heights of technology, surpassing what the Reapers deemed to be 'the point of harvest'. The technology doesn't exist pre-Reaper War, because otherwise we'd be using that technology to fight the Reapers, or it would be destroyed by the Reapers. It would be thee thing they target first.


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I wouldn't mind but people are going to be mad.

 

 

I honestly think it's the best choice too. And also we are going to face new races, wouldn't want the place to feel too crowded.

 

Humans, Salarians, Asari, Krogan, Remnants, Keth, Flying Wales and Brutes are pretty much confirmed already.

 

 

We could just take the Quarians and leave the toasters behind.

Out of all the dilemmas in the game the choice between Quarians or Geth had the biggest F you to the race we reject.

 

Whoever we didn't choose has nearly all of their race die instantly.

 

Given that most players didn't even see Wrex in ME3, it's very unlikely they got all the stuff required to save both races.

 

I will say if you play ME3 without any imports the plot makes players more likely to save Quarians.

 

But neither Quarian or Geth are popular the way Krogans, Asari, and Turians are.  Bioware causes the least friction by excluding both the Quarian and Geth.  Players who started raw with ME3 won't have their wtf why wasn't my decision respected frustration.