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[AlleyD]

Assuming that the ARK departs in the post ME1 timeframe. My own ARKCON headcanon is that the project  was undertaken by a co-operative effort from major Corporations of all species, not military or political entities like the Council. My candidate for the Human ARK would be Eldell Ashland Energy who have decades of experience in the effective colonizing of space

[fizzypop]

Yes.

[ZipZap2000]

The ultimate mystery: how do Krogan get a seat on The Ark since this happens before ME3 ending

*knock knock*

Who's there?

A 7 ft tall 3 ft wide armour plated walking war machine with back up organs and a redundant nervous system. We're moving in next door and we don't like loud music.

[Guanxii]

The ultimate mystery: how do Krogan get a seat on The Ark since this happens before ME3 ending

 

Pre-genophage cure Krogan are not viewed as a threat, it helps to maintain the illusion that this is a cross-species peace-time exploration effort, and krogan muscle if controlled could prove to be useful footsoldiers (military resource) heading into the unknown.

[Barquiel]

Maybe krogan and asari serve as pilots/caretakers of the Ark vessels because of their long lifespans.

[fizzypop]

This, I mean really, why does it have to be the council's project, there could have been a colonization/exploring groups outside the council, hell, look at our world as a good example, we can't get to another planet to colonize just yet but there is a HUGE bunch of folks already signed up to go to mars and our government has nothing to do with it, http://www.mars-one.com/

yeah, but that's just a scam. The dude running it is a con artist and well known for it.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Maybe krogan and asari serve as pilots/caretakers of the Ark vessels because of their long lifespans.

Possible, but that would be a huge waste in resources. The smart thing to do is have VIs and mechs be the pilots/caretakers of the ship as it travels, since they don't need food, water, air, light, gravity, etc. 

[Guanxii]

Maybe krogan and asari serve as pilots/caretakers of the Ark vessels because of their long lifespans.

 

You may be correct as maintenance will surely be an issue over supposedly hundreds of years. I doubt this would be possible without AI piloting and monitoring of critical & life-support systems and scheduling of personnel to exit cryo for routine duties.

[fizzypop]

The only reason I don't see the council being part of this is because we are likely leading it as the PC which they wouldn't have put a human in charge. I just have a feeling that we are in charge or at least are seen that way. Also why I don't believe this is a cross-species co-op either. I'm pretty sure this was a project funded by humans. Government or private. Just my speculation.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

The only reason I don't see the council being part of this is because we are likely leading it as the PC which they wouldn't have put a human in charge. I just have a feeling that we are in charge or at least are seen that way. Also why I don't believe this is a cross-species co-op either. I'm pretty sure this was a project funded by humans. Government or private. Just my speculation.

We(the protagonist) aren't in charge. One of the interviews implies that we and our companions will actually be much greener than Shepard and Co. 

[Guanxii]

The only reason I don't see the council being part of this is because we are likely leading it as the PC which they wouldn't have put a human in charge. I just have a feeling that we are in charge or at least are seen that way. Also why I don't believe this is a cross-species co-op either. I'm pretty sure this was a project funded by humans. Government or private. Just my speculation.

 

I think the cross species collaboration thing is a cover story. No body in the public at the time would actually know what this actually is designed to do or what it represents because even the media would be misinformed as to it's intended purpose. I bet it made minor headline news coverage as intended and then was quickly forgotten/brushed aside.

[EpicNewb]

Now I wnat to know does The Ark primarily house elite military personnel or civilians

 

It'd make more sense to include the badAZZes of each MWG race than the elites (generally aren't in the military): N7, Cabals, Commandos, STG, Aralakh, Drell Assassins, etc

[Guanxii]

Now I wnat to know does The Ark primarily house elite military personnel or civilians

 

It'd make more sense to include the badAZZes of each MWG race than the elites (generally aren't in the military): N7, Cabals, Commandos, STG, Aralakh, Drell Assassins, etc

 

Soldiers would only be one aspect of the project, they'd want the best in every field be that combat, military tacticians, political leadership/planning, scientists, engineers, etc - all ideally with the best genetic profiles that ensure highiest propensity for survival and contribution to the continuity of our civilization.

[anddill]

I have a wild theory who build the arks. There is on faction in the ME-Universe which has no economical or financial system so they have basically communism and can throw all resources into one project. They don`t have to feed workers or they´r families. And they know for sure the reapers are coming. And they are, as we learned in ME3, not the organics-slaying monsters as the Quarians described them.

 

The Geth.

 

ps: look at the arks-ships colour-scheme.

[Guanxii]

I have a wild theory who build the arcs. There is on faction in the ME-Universe which has no economical or financial system so they have basically communism and can throw all resources into one project. They don`t have to feed workers or they´r families. And they know for sure the reapers are coming. And they are, as we learned in ME3, not the organics-slaying monsters as the Quarians described them.

 

The Geth.

 

ps: look at the arcs-ships colour-scheme.

Interesting theory. The Geth would have to come directly to council races' leadership with this offer and they would surely have to keep Geth involvement secret from public knowledge so a cover story of cross species peace effort space exploration project would make sense for all involved in this context should it come to pass.

[anddill]

Maybe the arks just showed up after the events from arrival. The council wasn't involved at all. 

[MrFob]

@OP: No, the argument that it was a deliberate screw-over makes no sense at all. It's not the elite that is on the ARK. The council didn't evacuate themselves, they didn't evacuate any high ranking officials within the governments of certain species or prominent and wealthy rich people. All those guys are still around in ME2 and later. In fact, they couldn't have done that if they wanted to hope to keep this plan secret from the reapers.

Given that they had the technology to reach Andromeda (and it is still not clear to me at all how this conundrum will be resolved), it makes perfect sense to send a contingency group out to preserve the MW species in preparation for a worst case scenario.
Could they have otherwise done more to prepare for the reapers? Maybe, maybe not. But I think at this point, there is no indication that this was in any way a selfish or malevolent action by the council or whoever the organizers of the ARK initiative are.

[Guanxii]

@OP: No, the argument that it was a deliberate screw-over makes no sense at all. It's not the elite that is on the ARK. The council didn't evacuate themselves, they didn't evacuate any high ranking officials within the governments of certain species or prominent and wealthy rich people. All those guys are still around in ME2 and later. In fact, they couldn't have done that if they wanted to hope to keep this plan secret from the reapers.

Given that they had the technology to reach Andromeda (and it is still not clear to me at all how this conundrum will be resolved), it makes perfect sense to send a contingency group out to preserve the MW species in preparation for a worst case scenario.
Could they have otherwise done more to prepare for the reapers? Maybe, maybe not. But I think at this point, there is no indication that this was in any way a selfish or malevolent action by the council or whoever the organizers of the ARK initiative are.

 

Council races' high leadership exercise their power through their councillor representatives. Councillors are political servants following orders - they don't make their own demands. It depends on the scale and timeline but in the event of large scale evacuation you would be naïve to assume that the ruling classes who put this plan into motion aren't aboard those vessels accompanied by the best and brightest of any field they permit to accompany them.

[Alex_Dur4and]

Love it!

[MrFob]

Council races' high leadership exercise their power through their councillor representatives. Councillors are political servants following orders - they don't make their own demands.

That's a nice head canon but really, there is not much in the lore to support it.

[Barquiel]

It is true that all four councilors still have to answer to their respective governments (we see that in ME3), but there is no indication that the council races used the ark ships to evacuate the matriarchs/dalatrass/primarch/alliance parliament. They were still around during the reaper war, or killed like the human leadership.

[Guanxii]

That's a nice head canon but really, there is not much in the lore to support it.

 

They sign legislation negotiated by lobbyists of who exactly?

[Guanxii]

It is true that all four councilors still have to answer to their respective governments (we see that in ME3), but there is no indication that the council races used the ark ships to evacuate the matriarchs/dalatrass/primarch/alliance parliament. They were still around during the reaper war, or killed like the human leadership.

 

The skeleton crew were left. Not all of those who wield power would have believed in the reapers or the likely success of the Andromeda mission, or be cowardly enough to abandon their own people in time of need - those were the one's left behind if this theory however un-probable proves to be correct.

[shepskisaac]

I have been thinking for a while that maybe the "Ark" ship(s) are really the Virtual Aliens ship(s).

 

When the Reaper threat was real the Virtual Aliens can just have said "let's go to Andromeda" and offered a ride to representatives of the other milky way races.

Or they sold the COuncil the tech of their ships. Seems like they've been in space for a freaking long time, you could write-in a posession of all the advanced tech needed for Ark expedition and use that as the jumping point instead of the usual ideas like reverse Engineering Sovereign's corpse or repurpousing a Collector ship

[Fixers0]

It's gonna be a retcon but really, who cares about the state of the Milky way Mass Effect at this point.