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[Solas]

I feel Including the Quarians will have to directly mention the events of ME3. Is that lone Quarian squadmate grieving for the loss of his people? Is he sad that he doesn't get to live on his homeworld with the rest of his race? Did they destroy the Geth or is his suit upgraded by the Geth?

Too many variables.

Aren't we leaving before the end of ME3? Maybe they left before Shepard resolved the GethQuarian war in whatever way that they did. That wasn't that long before the final battle for Earth.

[Epyon]

It shouldn't. I want to watch forums burn.

 

It's not. No endings, no impact. There are several threads with confirmations on first page alone. Accept it already.

Yes. and to accomplish that sensibly we definitely need no post-ME3 launch. And no Quarians/Geth. 

[Iakus]

In MEA, WE are the quarians.

 

Think about it, a bunch of space vagabonds on a "migrating" fleet of ships, looking for a new home?

[Mcfly616]

Smart on the council's part to leave them out (or whoever has the final say on the Ark 'guest list'). They were already the galactic screw ups of the Milky Way. We don't need them creating some synthetic boogeymen to terrorize Andromeda too.

[LisuPL]

Quarians had tiny population to begin with.

 

I doubt they would be eager to participate in "experiment" of getting to Andromeda, even if asked to.

They just would not have enough people to split into 2 groups to provide sustainable genetical diversity in Andromeda, even in Milky Way they had to introduce proper policies to ensure enough diversity.

[Outsider]

Seems like a better opportunity to save the Drell really.

[TheJediSaint]

Andromeda's a big galaxy. I'm sure there there'll be a nice, wholesome girl and/or boy in a gimp suit somewhere in there.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

They better bring the Quarians, and all the other Milky Way races. Enough of Mass Effect is being thrown away already, so at least let there be what is left. 

[The Elder King]

In MEA, WE are the quarians.

 

Think about it, a bunch of space vagabonds on a "migrating" fleet of ships, looking for a new home?

Quarian weren't looking for a new home, since they had centuries to start a real colonization in the MW. On the other I doubt we'd wait that much to settle down.

[Element Zero]

We got stuck with Tali on the ship in ME3 because Weekes cried, insisted and and convinced his peers that fans would be disappointed by her absence, story be damned. We got the option to romance her, downplaying the whole "I could die if I smell a flower without air filters" thing, logic be damned. Do you really thing they will remove Quarians from the series? They know how popular they are. More importantly, they are part of the setting, even for people who are more neutral toward them, as I am.

You can count on all of the recognizable species being included. I wouldn't be surprised if even a few Vorcha laborers made the trip, maybe aboard the Krogan Ark.

[Undead Han]

Wouldn't be surprised if they didn't include Quarians in the new trilogy. Seeing as their race could die off in ME3 or if they got their homeworld back, then why would some join a human settlement program to another galaxy?
Plus they need room for the new races and I think their story has been played out.

Bioware should just ignore the implied results of the Rannoch arc.

Besides it being a bit ridiculous for the player character to determine whether or not an entire species disappears, a loss of the Quarian-Geth War shouldn't result in either the extinction of the Quarians or the complete destruction of the Geth. Why couldn't the Quarian fleet retreat through the relay if they lost? Why would the Geth vanish, when they're software that wasn't even occupying Rannoch anyway? The consequences of the Rannoch arc felt tacked on, just for the sake of giving the player a big decision.

That isn't to say that choices at Rannoch shouldn't have consequences, just that those consequences should be greatly lessened if imported into a sequel. Just have the choice determine who rules Rannoch, without it resulting in the loser vanishing completely from the game universe.

[EpicNewb]

^

 

I heard a rumor that Tali was going to have a much smaller role while they were originally developing ME3.  BW made a revision for her to stop a fan made river of tears.

[AlanC9]

That isn't to say that choices at Rannoch shouldn't have consequences, just that those consequences should be greatly lessened if imported into a sequel. Just have the choice determine who rules Rannoch, without it resulting in the loser vanishing completely from the game universe.

I dunno if that's viable. A race that loses 99% of its population is never going to get back to where it would have been unless someone's carved out a preserve for it. If you lose an early war in a 4x game, it's typically game over. (I pulled it off once in a MoO 1 game, but it's an exception that proves the rule; the Sakkras and Klackons went all-out with bioweapons and depopulated half the Galaxy, so in effect I had a preserve to develop into.)

[KirkyX]

Quarians had tiny population to begin with.

 

I doubt they would be eager to participate in "experiment" of getting to Andromeda, even if asked to.

They just would not have enough people to split into 2 groups to provide sustainable genetical diversity in Andromeda, even in Milky Way they had to introduce proper policies to ensure enough diversity.

The Migrant Fleet had a population of over 17 million. Seeing as the minimum viable breeding populations for vertebrate mammals - which the Quarians pretty much are, dextro-aside - tend to be in the thousands, even with the need for genetic diversity factored in, they had more - much, much more - than enough people to send a colonisation mission to Andromeda.

 

Now, whether they actually did or not is up to the writers, of course--but if I were BioWare, I'd bring along all the even moderately popular species from the Milky Way, since if you don't, you've kind of written yourself into a corner should you want to feature them in a future game.

[Iakus]

Quarian weren't looking for a new home, since they had centuries to start a real colonization in the MW. On the other I doubt we'd wait that much to settle down.

They did, actually.  But their biology limited which worlds they could settle on.

 

There's actually a planetary description of a world in ME2 (I think) that said the quarians tried to settle there, but were kicked off by the Council.

 

Edit:  Ah, here we go:

 

http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Ekuna

[Alex_Dur4and]

Just another day on the Bioware forum...

[jtav]

There's an easy way to include quarians: exiles. Just inclide a few who got on the wrong side of a political battle and presto.

[Undead Han]

I dunno if that's viable. A race that loses 99% of its population is never going to get back to where it would have been unless someone's carved out a preserve for it. If you lose an early war in a 4x game, it's typically game over. (I pulled it off once in a MoO 1 game, but it's an exception that proves the rule; the Sakkras and Klackons went all-out with bioweapons and depopulated half the Galaxy, so in effect I had a preserve to develop into.)

The Quarians losing 99% of their population in a single battle, would be a bit silly though. There are multiple examples in the games of fleets retreating through Mass Effect relays after a defeat, including against the Reapers, so the Quarians not being able to do that against the Geth seems rather contrived.

Not to mention that it would be completely mad for the Quarians to commit every ship they have, including the civilian ships, to a battle they may lose. Of course ME3 says the Quarian Admirals actually are that stupid, but I wouldn't mind that getting a retcon. The Quarians putting all their eggs in one basket was forced just to give Shepard a choice between destroying the Geth or allowing the Quarians to go extinct.

I'd just have Shepard's choices determine whether Rannoch is owned by the Quaians, the Geth, or shared, and whether the Quarians are still wandering vagabonds or have recolonized Quarian space.

[The Elder King]

They did, actually.  But their biology limited which worlds they could settle on.

 

There's actually a planetary description of a world in ME2 (I think) that said the quarians tried to settle there, but were kicked off by the Council.

 

Edit:  Ah, here we go:

 

http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Ekuna

I knew they searched planets, though I forgot they were kicked off. Great move by the Council :sigh:.

[Beerfish]

On the plus side they are kind of neat, on the minus side they will again take a short sighted view of making machine slaves that will once again take over the new galaxy and we will have to deal with them being space gypsies that no one likes.

 

[Stinja]

What value would they be to humans?

 

 

female quarian jiggly bum bum is very entertaining!

 

[AlanC9]

The Quarians losing 99% of their population in a single battle, would be a bit silly though. There are multiple examples in the games of fleets retreating through Mass Effect relays after a defeat, including against the Reapers, so the Quarians not being able to do that against the Geth seems rather contrived.
Not to mention that it would be completely mad for the Quarians to commit every ship they have, including the civilian ships, to a battle they may lose. Of course ME3 says the Quarian Admirals actually are that stupid, but I wouldn't mind that getting a retcon. The Quarians putting all their eggs in one basket was forced just to give Shepard a choice between destroying the Geth or allowing the Quarians to go extinct.
I'd just have Shepard's choices determine whether Rannoch is owned by the Quaians, the Geth, or shared, and whether the Quarians are still wandering vagabonds or have recolonized Quarian space.

OK, I get it now. Yeah, if we're going full retcon, then this could work. Visiting Rannoch would be a resource sink, but then we likely just wouldn't go there.

[Daemul]

All Quarians were called back to the Flotilla in preparation for the war with the Geth, though I'm not sure if exiled Quarians were part of that. Even if they weren't there likely wouldn't be more than a handful of them anyway, treason convictions aren't handed out very often to say the least lol

[Hexxagone]

If we are leaving before ME3 endings then it makes even less sense for Quarians to be in Andromeda. All Quarians were called to fight for Ranoch, nobody will abandon their people on the off chance that humans would find a new home in Andromeda that the Quarians MAYBE able to live on.

Thats just stupid writing.

[Felya87]

Quarian weren't looking for a new home, since they had centuries to start a real colonization in the MW. On the other I doubt we'd wait that much to settle down.

 

Actually, in the codex is stated (at least in ME1 codex) that some Quarians had founded little colonies, but generations would pass before their immune system would adapt to the new world and live without their suits.

For this, and the hope to go back to their native planet, the fleet was preferred by most of the Quarians, but not all. Plus, would be so strange to think some ship would not answer to the call to army against the Geth and help the Council with the building of the "Ark" ships? (I can see Admiral Koris send some of his civilian ships to the council to spare them before the battl agaist the Geth).

Who better than the Quarian have the expertise about how to build a ship where to live for an undetermined period of time?