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[ulmanicator]

 It'd be immensely unrealistic if a Krogan, a Batarian, a Vorcha, a Geth and a Quarian ALL manage to stumble their way into a seat.

I think council races can take some people of all species for the sake of diversity. 

[Fogg]

If any race would've been left out, it's the Krogan. Because you know, Salarians hating them. Also, since the genophage isn't cured when the Ark Ships depart, there is no hope for them anyway at that point. Since there are Krogans onboard (and I no longer believe my own stowaway theory), I think all races will be present.

[Epyon]

If any race would've been left out, it's the Krogan. Because you know, Salarians hating them. Also, since the genophage isn't cured when the Ark Ships depart, there is no hope for them anyway at that point. Since there are Krogans onboard (and I no longer believe my own stowaway theory), I think all races will be present.

That's a fair point. If they got enough room to include a pre-genophage Krogan on mission to start a civilisation, they'd have enough room for everyone. Though I still feel it's not in character for any Quarian to agree to going in their own right. And if the Geth are going, I don't want another Legion. I want a Geth ship to be part of fleet they are sending. Don't handwave everything. Make it part of the story.

[dorktainian]

'Cause no other species produces better quality strippers.

 

 

yep but when you see what they really look like you'll barf up your lunch

[Dalinne]

I only wish this had extended to the asari. I can't see why anyone would invite them to the party.

 

I hate to cite myself but...

 

http://forum.bioware...l#entry20317939

[Medhia_Nox]

From an in universe perspective, if they include the Krogan, as they evidently did, I can't really see why they'd exclude anyone. Except the Geth and the Rachni I suppose.

From an out of universe perspective, Bioware may well drop some of the less popular races...

 

Actually - Rachni would be REALLY useful in harvesting materials in harsh environments.  

 

Not saying you could get them to do it... or that there's no danger.  But - let's be serious - they brought humans with them, how much danger could they really be trying to avoid?

[ShadyKat]

1) The group behind the project must trust some races less than others.
 
2) The Reapers could embed indoctrinated people onto The Ark.
 
Since going to Andromeda happens before the end of The Reaper War, using Cerberus MO--information is shared on a need to know basis--is the wise move.
 
Due to reason #1 I'm expecting some races to be outright excluded.
 
All council races are a lock.  Initially I thought Salarians could be left out in the cold, but they're masters at hacking and finding information.
 
It's the non-council Citadel races and non-Citadel races that are at risk for being axed.
 
As of now I definitely don't expect to see the Geth and Batarians.  Inviting them along would be a major liability.

If any race were to be left out, wouldn't that be humans. Since they have that who Cerberus thing going on?.....

[10K]

The Krogan are coming because, why wouldn't you want an overgrown soldier whom can withstand harsh environments with you on an unknown journey? This is the very reason I can see them being included. They're tough, and hard to kill (by lore standards anyway), so why not? If hostility arises on ground, these are the soldiers whom will be on the front lines.

 

As for Quarians, don't see them coming. If this project was set off before the reaper invasion, I'd say it's safe to say they weren't trusted do to the A.I incident and going against council law. Even though they are really tech savvy, this role can easy be replaced by Salarians. 

 

For geth, don't see them going due to the fact there is no role they can fill and the galaxy wide mistrust surrounding them. I'm personally a huge fan of the geth, and would love to see them.

 

For drell, don't see any room for them because their race isn't relevant enough to the series as a whole and I don't see any particular roles this race could actually fill that could satisfy the reasoning they would be included. Same can be said for hannar, elcor, and possibly batarians.  

 

Volus, on the other hand I'm sort of on the fence about. They are marvelous when it comes to money and resources and I'm sure they probably had a hand in financing this entire project. So seeing them wouldn't be to bad. But just like the drell and others I listed, I don't see them being relevant enough for a huge populous of volus to make an appearance. 

 

Depending on when this project actually started; say it was during the reaper invasion, I could then see Quarians and even geth being included. This is how I see it anyway.  

[Medhia_Nox]

The Krogan are coming because, why wouldn't you want an overgrown soldier whom can withstand harsh environments with you on an unknown journey? This is the very reason I can see them being included. They're tough, and hard to kill (by lore standards anyway), so why not?

 

As for Quarians, don't see them coming. If this project was set off before the reaper invasion, I'd say it's safe to say they weren't trusted do to the A.I incident and going against council law. Even though they are really tech savvy, this role can easy be replaced by Salarians. 

 

For geth, don't see them going due to the fact there is no role they can fill and the galaxy wide mistrust surrounding them. I'm personally a huge fan of the geth, and would love to see them.

 

For drell, don't see any room for them because their race isn't relevant enough to the series as a whole and I don't see any particular roles this race could actually fill that could satisfy the reasoning they would be included. Same can be said for hannar, elcor, and possibly batarians.  

 

Volus, on the other hand I'm sort of on the fence about. They are marvelous when it comes to money and resources and I'm sure they probably had a hand in financing this entire project. So seeing them wouldn't be to bad. But just like the drell and others I listed, I don't see them being relevant enough for a huge populous of volus to make an appearance. 

 

Depending on when this project actually started; say it was during the reaper invasion, I could then see Quarians and even geth being included. This is how I see it anyway.  

 

Volus would have funded the whole thing. 

 

At the VERY least - they would have blackmailed their way aboard (let us on, or we'll tell everyone).  They controlled the galactic market... there's no way they didn't know these ships were being built. 

[10K]

If any race were to be left out, wouldn't that be humans. Since they have that who Cerberus thing going on?.....

Well no, because they are a council race. Unless this project took off around ME 1, I doubt humans would be excluded. 

[10K]

Volus would have funded the whole thing. 

 

At the VERY least - they would have blackmailed their way aboard (let us on, or we'll tell everyone).  They controlled the galactic market... there's no way they didn't know these ships were being built. 

And, that's why I said we could see the volus actually on the ark. Because of them being finance geniuses. 

[ShadyKat]

Well no, because they are a council race. Unless this project took off around ME 1, I doubt humans would be excluded.

Still would you trust humanity if you were the other races.
Cerberus seems to have a lot of human sleeper agent. Udina himself was working for them! For a race that is pretty new to the council, humanity doesn't have a great track record. Take Shepard out, and humanity has caused more damage then any other race.

[EpicNewb]

If any race would've been left out, it's the Krogan. Because you know, Salarians hating them. Also, since the genophage isn't cured when the Ark Ships depart, there is no hope for them anyway at that point. Since there are Krogans onboard (and I no longer believe my own stowaway theory), I think all races will be present.

Krogans are still respected due to their glorious past.  The Council still keeps a Krogan statue up.

 

Contrast them with Batarians.  There's little respect for them.  The Council ignored their calls in support of the newcomers of the galactic scene Humans. 

 

The Krogan are coming because, why wouldn't you want an overgrown soldier whom can withstand harsh environments with you on an unknown journey? This is the very reason I can see them being included. They're tough, and hard to kill (by lore standards anyway), so why not? If hostility arises on ground, these are the soldiers whom will be on the front lines.

 

As for Quarians, don't see them coming. If this project was set off before the reaper invasion, I'd say it's safe to say they weren't trusted do to the A.I incident and going against council law. Even though they are really tech savvy, this role can easy be replaced by Salarians. 

 

For geth, don't see them going due to the fact there is no role they can fill and the galaxy wide mistrust surrounding them. I'm personally a huge fan of the geth, and would love to see them.

 

For drell, don't see any room for them because their race isn't relevant enough to the series as a whole and I don't see any particular roles this race could actually fill that could satisfy the reasoning they would be included. Same can be said for hannar, elcor, and possibly batarians.  

 

Volus, on the other hand I'm sort of on the fence about. They are marvelous when it comes to money and resources and I'm sure they probably had a hand in financing this entire project. So seeing them wouldn't be to bad. But just like the drell and others I listed, I don't see them being relevant enough for a huge populous of volus to make an appearance. 

 

Depending on when this project actually started; say it was during the reaper invasion, I could then see Quarians and even geth being included. This is how I see it anyway.  

I like how pragmatic you are

[fizzypop]

Yes, why would anyone invite the most advanced citadel space species who also field the best soldiers in the galaxy (qualitatively)...truly a mystery.

They are the most advanced because they reached the citadel first. It has nothing to do with how awesome they are. They didn't create that technology, they took it from the reapers any race would have done the same if they had gotten there first. Heck they can't even owe their success to themselves, but to the protheans who helped them. They then subsequently withheld information and fucked over Shepard even though they knew she was right. I don't think they are the best soldiers lol. Considering what we see of them I highly doubt it. Oooo they have biotics big ****** whoop they offer nothing substantial beyond that. I would say that belongs to the turians and since they weren't morons 99% of the time nor mary sues I think we can all agree there.

I don't get why people get so damn touchy about the asari. They are a species that continues to be hailed as the SUPER MOST AWESOME EVER! While not doing a damn thing except stripping in nearly every game. In fact actively work against you at every damn turn even to their own demise. For a race of superior and intelligent beings they appear to be quite stupid. I mean they act exactly like a spoiled mary sue. People complain about humans (and their mary sueness), but oh dear criticize the beloved ****** material and everyone goes ape ****. **** 'em. I hope those blue space babes get thrown out of the airlock along with their insanely privileged attitude. They add nothing, but boring monologues about how great they are while not actively showing it at all.

[The Dystopian Hound]

1) The group behind the project must trust some races less than others.

2) The Reapers could embed indoctrinated people onto The Ark.

Since going to Andromeda happens before the end of The Reaper War, using Cerberus MO--information is shared on a need to know basis--is the wise move.

Due to reason #1 I'm expecting some races to be outright excluded.

All council races are a lock. Initially I thought Salarians could be left out in the cold, but they're masters at hacking and finding information.

It's the non-council Citadel races and non-Citadel races that are at risk for being axed.

As of now I definitely don't expect to see the Geth and Batarians. Inviting them along would be a major liability.

I can understand why it was secret but there are many reason why we didn't leave during reap war.

[fizzypop]

'Cause no other species produces better quality strippers.

 

Besides, who else is gonna discover ancient tech from a superior civilization and hide it/pretend it's their own?

Maybe if we get a brothel I'll allow this.

[fizzypop]

Supposedly, for a project such as ark, arrangements would need to be made with selected species governments. You can't simply abduct needed people (unless you are Cerberus). Several thousands, or better, hundred thousands people from all walks of life, from each species. Arks, constructed and filled with such secrecy that Shadow Broker, Quarian Admiral and Krogan King decided not to tell their best friend ever about it, if they even knew.
Which basically means, council species only. Maybe someone brought their pet krogan, but that's it.

Not necessarily. Frozen embryos wouldn't be a bad way to have genetic diversity while still being secretive enough to not alert anyone. Then you would only need several women from each species to carry them to term or in the case of some species just take care of the eggs. IRL there are places where many frozen embryos are stored and never used. Some couples choose to donate them to medical research or to other would be parents. So I can't see why the future wouldn't be able to do that? Plus it would limit the resources needed and you could take on more eggs than you could people.

[Barquiel]

They are the most advanced because they reached the citadel first. It has nothing to do with how awesome they are. They didn't create that technology, they took it from the reapers any race would have done the same if they had gotten there first. Heck they can't even owe their success to themselves, but to the protheans who helped them. They then subsequently withheld information and fucked over Shepard even though they knew she was right. I don't think they are the best soldiers lol. Considering what we see of them I highly doubt it. Oooo they have biotics big ****** whoop they offer nothing substantial beyond that. I would say that belongs to the turians and since they weren't morons 99% of the time nor mary sues I think we can all agree there.

I don't get why people get so damn touchy about the asari. They are a species that continues to be hailed as the SUPER MOST AWESOME EVER! While not doing a damn thing except stripping in nearly every game. In fact actively work against you at every damn turn even to their own demise. For a race of superior and intelligent beings they appear to be quite stupid. I mean they act exactly like a spoiled mary sue. People complain about humans (and their mary sueness), but oh dear criticize the beloved ****** material and everyone goes ape ****. **** 'em. I hope those blue space babes get thrown out of the airlock along with their insanely privileged attitude. They add nothing, but boring monologues about how great they are while not actively showing it at all.

ALL advanced galactic civilizations are based on Prothean technology, that's one of the first things you learn in ME1 (from Nihlus). You obviously forget, for example, that the mars cache wasn't just a singular beacon a la Athame temple, but an entire research base with prothean ships. Humanity - not the Asari - hit the motherlode of prothean finds. ("In 2148, prospectors exploring near the Deseado Crater found the sourceof these disturbances when they unearthed a subterranean Prothean ruin, containing a malfunctioning mass effect core and several starships,as well as refined element zero"). But you want to uninvite the asari because they learned everything from a prothean beacon which they couldn't even properly activate? Right...

On an individual basis, the asari have the best warriors in the galaxy....that's even mentioned in the codex. So no, we can definitely not all agree here. In addition, the Asari contribute more war assets than the Turians, and double the Salarians (do you want to uninvite them as well?) while at the same time putting up a good fight against the reapers. They join in after the coup attempt (so virtually the same time as anyone else does), and they're also the only major race who don't attach a quid pro quo to their support. So the Asari "work against you", but the other races not?

[Vortex13]

They are the most advanced because they reached the citadel first. It has nothing to do with how awesome they are. They didn't create that technology, they took it from the reapers any race would have done the same if they had gotten there first. Heck they can't even owe their success to themselves, but to the protheans who helped them. They then subsequently withheld information and fucked over Shepard even though they knew she was right. I don't think they are the best soldiers lol. Considering what we see of them I highly doubt it. Oooo they have biotics big ****** whoop they offer nothing substantial beyond that. I would say that belongs to the turians and since they weren't morons 99% of the time nor mary sues I think we can all agree there.

I don't get why people get so damn touchy about the asari. They are a species that continues to be hailed as the SUPER MOST AWESOME EVER! While not doing a damn thing except stripping in nearly every game. In fact actively work against you at every damn turn even to their own demise. For a race of superior and intelligent beings they appear to be quite stupid. I mean they act exactly like a spoiled mary sue. People complain about humans (and their mary sueness), but oh dear criticize the beloved ****** material and everyone goes ape ****. **** 'em. I hope those blue space babes get thrown out of the airlock along with their insanely privileged attitude. They add nothing, but boring monologues about how great they are while not actively showing it at all.

 

 

I wouldn't mind seeing the Asari and humanity take a back seat to the other alien species like the Hanar, Elcor, and Rachni as well, but who am I kidding?

 

Obviously, those three aliens are genetically proven to be inferior to the master races of the setting. At best, you can say your entire species is a running joke for the genetic elites of the universe; a jester to entertain individuals far more important that you'll ever be. Normally though, you would be better off literally killing yourself if you happened to be born as an Elcor, Hanar, or Rachni, because according to the rules of the Mass Effect universe, you and your entire population is considered worthless and expendable. 

[BohemiaDrinker]

Agreed. Humans, Asari, Salarians, Turians are a given. Volus, Elcor, Hanar and Drell I can see buying their way in. It'd be immensely unrealistic if a Krogan, a Batarian, a Vorcha, a Geth and a Quarian ALL manage to stumble their way into a seat.

 

Krogan are extremely valuable as military personnel; you don't get tougher soldiers. Geth could also be valuable, but I don't see them coming along. Vorcha also have their value, but I bet they also been cut.

[Neverwinter_Knight77]

I love pretty much all of the "warrior races", thanks in part to ME3's multiplayer. Turians, krogan, vorcha, and hell yes--Batarians!

[Pasquale1234]

As a practical matter, I doubt that all of the MW species will be along for the ride.

Considering that we didn't see a female krogan or salarian until ME3 - and a turian in its DLC - I'd be hard-pressed to believe they would want to be building all of those models for all of the other species unless those species had a specific role to play in Andromeda. I do hope they come up with good reasons for the exclusion of those species that don't make the trip.

They've invested in modeling and animating new creatures, species, enemies for Andromeda that will play an active role in the game.

I might miss some of the MW species that don't come along, but look forward to getting to know the denizens of Andromeda.
 

Besides, who else is gonna discover ancient tech from a superior civilization and hide it/pretend it's their own?

Humanity?

[Reznore57]

From an in universe perspective, if they include the Krogan, as they evidently did, I can't really see why they'd exclude anyone. Except the Geth and the Rachni I suppose.

From an out of universe perspective, Bioware may well drop some of the less popular races...

 

I've read somewhere there might be multiple Arks , if this is the case , the devs can say they took almost every races , but we won't see everyone in Andromeda.

It might come handy if they want to make a MEA2 , MEA3 etc..having a back catalogue of all the races in Andromeda already in place just in case.

[shepskisaac]

Invite Leviathans to Ark!!!

[Pasquale1234]

I've read somewhere there might be multiple Arks , if this is the case , the devs can say they took almost every races , but we won't see everyone in Andromeda.
It might come handy if they want to make a MEA2 , MEA3 etc..having a back catalogue of all the races in Andromeda already in place just in case.

I've thought about that, too.

It will be interesting to see what - if anything - they'll have to say about any MW species we don't actually see in MEA.