To be fair where I live, which coincidentally is where BioWare HQ is, the age of sexual consent is actually 16.
Same where I live (though it's definitely a social no-no for anyone much above sixteen to actually go out with a sixteen year old), but it's the apparent need to specify that 'females' are okay at sixteen, while the rest have to be eighteen, that's really creeping me out.
I dunno, there's something about the whole comment that just feels super dodgy.
I wish it was like that in my country. You have to be 18 which is not a problem for me but it is if you have a girlfriend who's younger. Can't do anything.To be fair where I live, which coincidentally is where BioWare HQ is, the age of sexual consent is actually 16.
I wish it was like that in my country. You have to be 18 which is not a problem for me but it is if you have a girlfriend who's younger. Can't do anything.
Well much like with Kirky, dating somebody who is 16 is still not socially acceptable if you're over 18 here.
Hell being 27 in less than a month if I dated a chick who was 18 I'd probably get a few people saying "Don't you think she's a bit young for you?".
Of course my level of care is zero on that, but it happens.
No offense intended, but I suspect you're going to feel differently once you're a bit older. I had an astronomically high IQ as a very small child, and continued to be tested throughout school because of this initial result at the age of 5. As advanced as I was compared to everyone, including every adult I've ever met, I still needed to learn about life by living it. Fortunately, I was smart enough to realize how little I really knew.I see it as a mental and moral problem the older you get, to be honest. I think older people project those fragilities onto younger people.
At any rate, regardless of the different rates for differing people, the US makes no exceptions and employs a blanket policy. Even dropping out has several requirements including being a set age and other things.
Consequently they constrain and are otherwise bungling people in that category and such, but I mean that's just one on a long list of things that the US is incompetent and bad at so anyway they have a lot on their plate.
Jade Empire must be really scary for some people here then.
Yeah. No ****s given. That'll show em.Well much like with Kirky, dating somebody who is 16 is still not socially acceptable if you're over 18 here.
Hell being 27 in less than a month if I dated a chick who was 18 I'd probably get a few people saying "Don't you think she's a bit young for you?".
Of course my level of care is zero on that, but it happens.
It's not breaking any norms if she's 18.
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Honestly 24+ is fine for me, but you get into like... 18-19 territory and I feel Hunger Games vibes. Or Young Adult novel vibes.
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EA is always searching for ways to expand their markets. I wonder if Bio heard a Command from Above?
Bottom line, though, Bio will use the same story, character, combat formula in Andromeda, that was so successful with the trilogy. The definitely want the players to become attached... to "own" their character(s). I see good Karma.
Mass Effect 1 - Shepard is 29
Mass Effect 2 - Shepard is '31'
Mass Effect 3 - Shepard is '32'
From Hero to Legend.
Companions ranged from barely matured, to rather old and experienced, but I'd say that more of them leaned at least towards the latter. While there were the younger and fresher characters, the story IMO seemed to focus more on a collection of individuals drawn to Shepard and contributing their personal skills and experiences.
Mass Effect: Andromeda is instead a soldier/ordinary? to Hero. 'Greener' team.
I can imagine:
-Protagonist starts in early or mid 20s, late 20s at the max. Enough to generally take that place what Shepard was at when he had his 'Service History' we input.
-MEA will basically be the elaborated history of this new character, again the journey to becoming a hero, so it lets Bioware establish them as arguably 'better' than Shepard, earlier on in their life. Of course there may be narrative counterbalances to this, like MEA's character not being as confident or secure in their skills and environment, but they'll still get details of their life that may be 'superior' to Shepard already before age ~30.
-A greener team does not mean incapable. It means that instead of (RELATIVELY) bringing baggage with them to the team, they may instead collect their baggage while in the team. There may be a greater theme of organizational unity. And while they may end up leaning inexperienced (think Cora? may be more Ashley ME1 and less Miranda, more Grunt and less Wrex), they'll still hold their own and for all we know end up becoming masters by the end of the game, and there is nothing necessarily stopping characters with experience from joining (even if less of them do compared to ME1-3).
I presume MEA's deal will have the most 'established' crew yet - even more put together than how Cerberus tried to establish the Normandy SR-2 - but there will be a great emphasis on how having even the best of the best planning may go bad and the people with the best aptitudes may be challenged in ways they were never programmed for. Sure their superior (for the Milky Way standards?) foundation may be great enough to give them a shot in the Helius Cluster, but the whole point is that we get to see strange new worlds with challenges that may never have been prepared for. Thus, 'green'.
I dunno if Bioware has any considerations on whether there will be more games with Ryder after this, but at the very least, I expect their relative status to start around 'Service History' (with us choosing Pre Service History in options, which might be where the family stuff comes in) and ending either at the end of the 'Service History' (localized incidents) or Ryder's own 'Mass Effect 1' (galactic scale adventure in some sense) or a mix of both. By that I mean, we may be similar in ways to the Inquisitor who may or may not be playable/recruitable/meetable after their feature game (DAI), but nonetheless goes through formative experiences in at least the one game (DAI/MEA).
I have no problem with playing a protagonist who may be in their 20s. Anything 20s-40s I can take, or even theoretically 50s+ in a setting that has at least youth extension technologies or any other useful story devices. Just as long as they are 'generically adult' enough in age portrayal (not 'whiny kid' or 'wheezing geezer').
There are concerns about the possible relative youth compared to Shepard, if only because I really don't care to do his story over again (and details are sometimes getting too close to that for comfort), but I know one thing that'd differentiate them to Shepard - more use of transhuman technologies. Let me use more overt implants and directed evolution/engineering on myself and I'd love that and certainly feel like a new character. However, I've seen very little direct evidence of this happening so far. Just stuff like possibly stronger biotics, jump packs and the like. Boooo.
So what? ME2 was already a 'Shepard Daycare' sim.
Shepard was the herder (heh) of his group, yes, but almost none of them personally depended on him. Almost none of them were green, and even those who were, returned 1-2 games later in a much more capable form. Shep brought them to battle and hardened them to various extents and various ways.
I see it more likely that this time we already have something herding/carrying people along, so Ryder plays the role of the one relatively organizing and, yeah, 'daycaring' (to put it bluntly, haha) them. Welcome to Loyalty Missions 2.0 where everyone needs to be in their best shape, and probably not just for the sake of a single important mission. This time the environment will be more likely to harden the characters then Ryder themselves - or at least I can imagine a different degree of emphasis. I don't expect any 'Renegade Shepard speeches' (though for that matter, neither do I expect Paragon; we will get a different style for many things in order to distinguish the characters).
Normandy may have been SSV Daddy/Mommy/Kiddie Issues with a Shepard who seemed more put together, but I'm predicting a reverse this time with Ryder having the family matters (I considered this before, and I'm intrigued that this thought was correct) while the Tempest will take a different angle. I have some ideas on what that angle will be, but what I'm pretty sure about is that we won't be just dealing with a lot of 'misfits', 'daycaring' them as we may be. This is an Initiative with a much more official and possibly acceptably regulated format (acceptably probably because WE are the pathfinder, and possibly the 'leader') than ME1-3 (yes, even more than anything Alliance Military; this seems to be a cross-galactic effort and much politics and laws keeping it together; everyone is already invested and our problem may be more about keeping things from falling apart, not drawing things in to act in unity for a war).
http://www.polygon.c...preview-e3-2016
As someone who is 2 years from 30, please don't make me feel creepy hitting on 20-year-old teammates. Please.
Also I don't empathize with children.
I'm 34 and had Max kiss Chloe. Obviously I'm going to Hell. I'll save you a seat after you play this game.
I just hope that being young and relatively inexperienced doesn't mean that our protagonist is clueless and asks or says stupid things ( ie - Shepard comparing the genophage to the first contact war in ME1).
I just hope that being young and relatively inexperienced doesn't mean that our protagonist is clueless and asks or says stupid things ( ie - Shepard comparing the genophage to the first contact war in ME1).
Something like that does concern me a little. I really want to be able to have my character sound more educated and reasonable.
I just really hope that this means that they learned from what worked in DA2. Because I really liked the idea of taking a noob protagonist over a long period of time (say a trilogy) up to a wall-eating badass. Shepard started out pretty competent -- there wasn't much chance to grow.
And I MIGHT be thirty when this game hits shelves. Which would be funny. I played Shepard in her thirties in my early 20s, now I'll get Ryder in her twenties in my early 30s.
http://www.polygon.c...preview-e3-2016
As someone who is 2 years from 30, please don't make me feel creepy hitting on 20-year-old teammates. Please.
Also I don't empathize with children.
Are you hitting on them, or is your character? Those are two separate entities, you know
Maybe they'll do it right this time.I just really hope that this means that they learned from what worked in DA2. Because I really liked the idea of taking a noob protagonist over a long period of time (say a trilogy) up to a wall-eating badass. Shepard started out pretty competent -- there wasn't much chance to grow.
As the relic who'll be 37 when this game ships, romance doesn't skeeve me so long as it's not a child, critter, or cadaver.
We will have to see....though for me due to personal experiece most < 25 are still (mentally) kids. I hope for a cast of 30ish.
http://www.polygon.c...preview-e3-2016
As someone who is 2 years from 30, please don't make me feel creepy hitting on 20-year-old teammates. Please.
Also I don't empathize with children.
As a 29 year old my self, I would see no issue chatting up a 20 year old if I were single. Especially as I would literally have 0 chance pulling someone my own age with my baby face...
Thirty somethings are the best somethings but I can dig being with a group of people and watching them grow into their badassery, definitely. Even more so if this means there'll maybe be a gap of a few years between games to let new situations develop.
http://www.polygon.c...preview-e3-2016
As someone who is 2 years from 30, please don't make me feel creepy hitting on 20-year-old teammates. Please.
Also I don't empathize with children.
And others dont feel well when hitting on 30 year olds... I think it is not that important what you want for it, but what the writers think about it and which characters they want to make available for a romance.
= The characters age to each other is important
And there I was looking forward to 'Glee in Space'...
Well much like with Kirky, dating somebody who is 16 is still not socially acceptable if you're over 18 here.
Hell being 27 in less than a month if I dated a chick who was 18 I'd probably get a few people saying "Don't you think she's a bit young for you?".
Of course my level of care is zero on that, but it happens.
I stopped dating 18 year olds cause now I'm twice their age and we have nothing in common anymore. It's also a bit weird for me to know that they've been sexually active for ~4 years when I barely made it to second base when I was their age. I know they are adults but to me anyone below 25 is still in the "too young" bracket. Generational gap I guess.
But that's just me. My character in the game has different circumstances or perhaps even preferences. I can roleplay almost anything after all.
As long as they are legal and it's our choice the LI's are fine. But the protag needs to be an mature adult. She's gonna be commanding a fully grown Krogan, whose got centuries of experience, that needs to feel realistic.
Because people are still screaming and yelling over wrong information, here's the 'greener' part explained again, but in a way shorter article. You might actually be able to read it:
http://www.ign.com/a...nt-from-shepard
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