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#51
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A bunch of Justin Biebers and Selenas? IS THIS WHAT WE ARE GETTING?

Remember, we also get family.

 

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They are going for another Hawke I take it, which is not a bad thing per se. Yet, Hawke was ~24 at the beginning of the timelne. I'd say anything younger would be a bit off for me. 32, would work just fine - experienced, yet not too old. 

 

Eh, you can always headcanon your Hawke as older. I've seen some people create much older Hawkes.



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I'm just scared I won't relate to them like I did the original crews

 

If we're going with the idea that in order to related to a character you have to be around the same age, there is absolutely no way to deal with that.

 

Although it's worth noting that Tali is technically still the Quarian equivalent of "underaged" in Mass Effect 1 and Liara by her own admission is "barely an adult" according to the Asari.


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Oh, as a matter of fact, I am a '95. You just understood differently. What I meant is that I'm born in the year 1995. Misunderstanding :(

 

Thanks mate. Don't drink all the booze! :P

 

Happy birthday, scally wag! :D

 

 

This is actually correct.

I'm just scared I won't relate to them like I did the original crews

 

If the writing's good, they'll write the character's young but keep the language universal, without the slang.


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I'm sure there will be a variety of ages. I personally don't mind ages between 14 and up. Having a teen squad member could make an interesting dynamic. The Last of Us, Ellie was 15 and Joel was 40+.


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Lack of combat experiences.

 

If the ME universe has taught us anything, it's that discoveries are often accompanied by violence.

Not just combat experience, life experience and situational experience.



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My main concern would be with whether a young protagonist will make sense exercising the authority they do.

I mean, the youngest captain in the Royal Navy is apparently 27 (Or at least he was in 2010 when the news article I was looking at was written), and that was an itty-bitty patrol vessel. So a younger protagonist commanding a ship like the Tempest feels like a pretty big stretch.
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Happy birthday, scally wag! :D

 

 

 

If the writing's good, they'll write the character's young but keep the language universal, without the slang.

 

 

Yah, they won't start saying things like, "Pop 'dat dope freeze" and then all stop to take a selfie with stupid looking duck face.  Or whatever the kids are saying nowadays.  


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Not sure why this is a problem? Age doesn't matter that much, just give me Interesting characters. 


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Hm well younger doesn't bother me but I think in this topic we have a strong emphasis on "age number" as the pure indicator of that quality.

 

I've seen people who are like 27/28 that seem younger/healthier/more attractive than people 21/22 although granted it's not typical or normal per se. Like some people thought 18 year old college roommate was a parent LOL. There's also people who are 28 or whatever and seem like they're 40 or something.

 

So I don't mind emphasizing younger players/characters but personally I don't really jump to conclusions or otherwise basing things entirely on the known age of X or Y.

 

Anyway if it really bothers you could always play Kratos in that new God of War game, =-P


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It's interesting to see the reactions from the DA and ME teams. When DA:I came out, there was a lot of complaints about the cast being too old. Now it's the cast will be too young. Never change guys. :P

I personally don't care about the age range of the cast. I'll probably make my Ryder look about my age, regardless of what might be stated as canon.

Age is but a number. I care more about how they conduct themselves. I don't want anymore younger companions to be described as "brats" by the devs. If they are considered a brat, I wouldn't want to romance them. There's someone being a bit young, and then there is being a little twerp. I stopped dating twerps 16 years ago and I'm not going to romance them in my video games.
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Long as they aren't anime young I think it will be okay.


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Just look at the setting of this game:

Its an ARK. They need some time to get a hold in the new galaxy, and then they must be still young enough to have a lot of kids. So it makes a lot of sense to put a bunch of barely grown ups at the Ark and just add some veterans for guidance.


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Most military folks are pretty young, at least for junior enlisted (the majority of all military personnel) and junior officers. Most junior enlisted are probably within the range of 18 and 25 years old, and lieutenants ( the most junior officers) are relatively recent college grads. So the cast being young has an element of realism to it *if* these characters are privates, lance corporals, and lieutenants or whatever their Alliance / Arkon equivalent is.

If on the other hand these named characters are higher ranking officers like Lt. Commanders or Majors, or senior enlisted like Gunnery Chiefs and the like, they should be people with at least 8 to 10 years in the service. Think Shepard in ME1.

The main character being a Lt. Commander and the ship's CO or the ship's platoon sergeant (Ashely in ME1) being teens or early twenty somethings would be completely implausible. It's the equivalent of a recent high school or college grad being placed in a senior management position within a corporate office. Just as that would never happen in the corporate world, it would never happen in the military. There is no teacher quite like experience and you have to demonstrate competence before being given that much responsibility.

Mass Effect doesn't have to be Tom Clancy in space, but the writers could use more attention to detail when delving into the military / space program aspects of the story, and avoid the terrible Sci Fi habit of having characters inexplicably promoted into senior management or command positions despite having zero experience. Some attention to detail makes parts of the game universe seem plausible, more immersive, and aids in willing suspension of disbelief.
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http://www.polygon.c...preview-e3-2016

 

As someone who is 2 years from 30, please don't make me feel creepy hitting on 20-year-old teammates. Please.

 

Also I don't empathize with children.

 

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Kinda makes sense, now. That Asari did look like a child and the protag is probably in their early 20s.

 

Well, hopefully I can use the CC to make my protag look older.


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Andromeda - Hunger games.

 

God help us all. 


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Kinda makes sense, now. That Asari did look like a child and the protag is probably in their early 20s.

Well, hopefully I can use the CC to make my protag look older.

It was hilarious in DAO when Dadda Cousland called you son and you looked like his father lol.
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Christ, you people freak out over the stupidest crap.
"I can't have a younger squad! If I romance a 20-something fictional character I'll be a pervert!"

 

Grow up.


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Kinda makes sense, now. That Asari did look like a child and the protag is probably in their early 20s.
 
Well, hopefully I can use the CC to make my protag look older.


They'll likely be using the same CC for ME:A as they did for DA:I, so you should be able to make your Ryder any age you wish. :)
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Andromeda - Hunger games.

God help us all.

I want to fight with a ****** trident.

But I wanna do it in a Quarter Quell like all adults.
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Most military folks are pretty young, at least for junior enlisted (the majority of all military personnel) and junior officers. Most junior enlisted are probably within the range of 18 and 25 years old, and lieutenants ( the most junior officers) are relatively recent college grads. So the cast being young has an element of realism to it *if* these characters are privates, lance corporals, and lieutenants or whatever their Alliance / Arkon equivalent is.

If on the other hand these named characters are higher ranking officers like Lt. Commanders or Majors, or senior enlisted like Gunnery Chiefs and the like, they should be people with at least 8 to 10 years in the service. Think Shepard in ME1.

The main character being a Lt. Commander and the ship's CO or the ship's platoon sergeant (Ashely in ME1) being teens or early twenty somethings would be completely implausible. It's the equivalent of a recent high school or college grad being placed in a senior management position within a corporate office. Just as that would never happen in the corporate world, it would never happen in the military. There is no teacher quite like experience and you have to demonstrate competence before being given that much responsibility.

Mass Effect doesn't have to be Tom Clancy in space, but the writers could use more attention to detail when delving into the military / space program aspects of the story, and avoid the terrible Sci Fi habit of having characters inexplicably promoted into senior management or command positions despite having zero experience. Some attention to detail makes parts of the game universe seem plausible, more immersive, and aids in willing suspension of disbelief.

 

The article this whole stupid thread is based upon talks about the characters being 'greener' (not a decorated war hero yet, that's introduced in the first few minutes as the Alliance's best that is the perfect candidate for Spectre). It's even mentioned that they are not so green that they don't know how the handle themselves in combat. But somehow people rather yell at stuff instead of reading it.

 

Since the average gamer is 31 or something, and RPG's tend to have a more mature audience than other genres, there's no way this will be The Hunger Games in space.


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I'm 24 so I actually don't care if the protagonist and crew is or isn't younger

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Most military folks are pretty young, at least for junior enlisted (the majority of all military personnel) and junior officers. Most junior enlisted are probably within the range of 18 and 25 years old, and lieutenants ( the most junior officers) are relatively recent college grads. So the cast being young has an element of realism to it *if* these characters are privates, lance corporals, and lieutenants or whatever their Alliance / Arkon equivalent is.

If on the other hand these named characters are higher ranking officers like Lt. Commanders or Majors, or senior enlisted like Gunnery Chiefs and the like, they should be people with at least 8 to 10 years in the service. Think Shepard in ME1.

The main character being a Lt. Commander and the ship's CO or the ship's platoon sergeant (Ashely in ME1) being teens or early twenty somethings would be completely implausible. It's the equivalent of a recent high school or college grad being placed in a senior management position within a corporate office. Just as that would never happen in the corporate world, it would never happen in the military. There is no teacher quite like experience and you have to demonstrate competence before being given that much responsibility.

Mass Effect doesn't have to be Tom Clancy in space, but the writers could use more attention to detail when delving into the military / space program aspects of the story, and avoid the terrible Sci Fi habit of having characters inexplicably promoted into senior management or command positions despite having zero experience. Some attention to detail makes parts of the game universe seem plausible, more immersive, and aids in willing suspension of disbelief.

I'm guessing they're gonna play the, 'Yo, you're actually kinda new and shitty at this, but literally everyone else important is either missing, stuck in cryo or dead, so... Have this sweet spaceship?' card. It's the Hero of Ferelden approach.

 

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Still better than giving the flagship of the fleet to a fresh cadet who flunked his exams and then snuck aboard by feigning illness 'cause... I dunno, the plot said so?

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I'm 24 so I actually don't care if the protagonist and crew is or isn't younger

 

You young kids and your rap and (what more is it they say)........... and you beltless jeans. get a haircut and get a job!!  :P



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I wouldn't feel any emotional investment tbh.

I would not care if any of the cast members lived or died.

*sigh* I want to care

They aren't going to give us a bunch of teens as our party. Is this all about the youthful look of the female protagonist? (Or maybe it's that little Asari thing. I believe she was an animation demo, likely to change dramatically before we see her again.) You're totally forgetting about the big, bad ass Krogan and battle-hardened female (human? asari?) squadmate we've seen in the protagonist's presence. They don't look like teens to me.

This isn't a JRPG. The team will be made up of adults. What in the world make you think BioWare has lost their minds? It's going to be okay, Addictress. I'm pretty certain that we will like the new squaddies and protagonist. ;)

Edit: I didn't read the article before posting, though I will now.

After reading the article, I'm even more confused about from whence this fear came. Nothing in this article even suggested to me we'd be playing as kids, and I'm significantly older than Addictress.
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