So assuming that the main reason for leaving for Andromeda is preserve members of the MW civilizations before the reapers hit one would assume that the Arks might have just hoofed their way out of the Milky Way avoiding the relay system so the reapers didn't track them, which would probably put their leaving post ME 2 but before ME 3. Maybe around the time Arrival happened. If so I wonder if while the majority of Ark populations were in cryo that a skeleton crew remained awake to deal with any complications before they hit dark space. Also it took the reapers several months to hoof their way over to the next relay once the alpha relay was destroyed and I doubt the arks are as fast as the reapers. So there was a good chance the arks hadn't reached the edge of the Milky Way by the time ME 3 started. I imagine they were on communication blackout to avoid being discovered. But the whole thing could have been a close call.
Did the arks avoid the relay system on their way out?
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Posté 15 juin 2016 - 04:38
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We don't know. In the trailer we see three arks, some people think only one got to Andromeda according to the N7 day trailer.
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Posté 15 juin 2016 - 04:41
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The Reapers don't seem to be able to track relay use.
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Posté 15 juin 2016 - 04:42
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We don't know. In the trailer we see three arks, some people think only one got to Andromeda according to the N7 day trailer.
Maybe only one left for Andromeda? When I saw multiple arks I assumed they'd be sent to different galaxies to maximise the chance that at least one of them will be successful.
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Posté 15 juin 2016 - 04:43
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Wouldn't going where there were relays defeat the purpose of the ARK (assuming it is to put some of "us" beyond the reach of the reapers)?
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Posté 15 juin 2016 - 04:52
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I'm pretty sure that once you're at FTL speeds, the Reapers aren't able to track you. It's why you were able to evade Reapers in ME3 by leaving whichever solar system they were searching. Once the Arks were accelerated, they would be safe unless they dropped back to relativistic speeds within Reaper space.
That said, I actually doubt all three arks are going to make it. Too much excitement to be had if an opening scene shows Reapers descending on the project and making short work of the other two ships while we frantically try to make the jump to FTL.
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Posté 15 juin 2016 - 04:57
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I'm pretty sure that once you're at FTL speeds, the Reapers aren't able to track you. It's why you were able to evade Reapers in ME3 by leaving whichever solar system they were searching. Once the Arks were accelerated, they would be safe unless they dropped back to relativistic speeds within Reaper space.
That said, I actually doubt all three arks are going to make it. Too much excitement to be had if an opening scene shows Reapers descending on the project and making short work of the other two ships while we frantically try to make the jump to FTL.
Agreed, there has to be at least one scene of one of the arks being blown to bits.
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Posté 15 juin 2016 - 05:01
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I'd assume the Arks just used the Mass Effect Relay when turned up to 11
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Posté 15 juin 2016 - 05:21
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Possibly, but I'd imagine they would use the relays to get to whatever launch point is closest to Andromeda.
The Reapers don't seem to be able to track relay use
Traynor was able to track Kai Leng's shuttle after Thessia which led us to Sanctuary. Liara was able to monitor traffic volume of the relays. The Reapers built the relays and know things about the relays that nobody else knows. We can't assume that they can't track relay use.
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Posté 15 juin 2016 - 05:23
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I never thought of that. That's a really cool idea...Maybe only one left for Andromeda? When I saw multiple arks I assumed they'd be sent to different galaxies to maximise the chance that at least one of them will be successful.
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Posté 15 juin 2016 - 05:36
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If we leave before the invasion, and depending upon where these things are constructed, they'd almost definitely use the Relays to get into optimal departure position*. It's impossible to guess, though, with no data.
* I know we saw the Arks above Earth, but I don't believe they'd have been built in Earth's orbit. There's never been mention of any special shipyards above Earth. This is something you carefully position to optimally coordinate supplies and materials, concerns like that. Even security concerns wouldn't justify assembling it above your homeworld. One can't claim it was to defend it from the Reapers, since "Ah, yes. Reapers.", no?
I think there is just as much chance that this thing is a huge science project, rather than an escape plan. I'm looking forward to learning if I'm right or wrong, and getting to the story.
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Posté 15 juin 2016 - 05:53
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So assuming that the main reason for leaving for Andromeda is preserve members of the MW civilizations before the reapers hit one would assume that the Arks might have just hoofed their way out of the Milky Way avoiding the relay system so the reapers didn't track them, which would probably put their leaving post ME 2 but before ME 3. Maybe around the time Arrival happened. If so I wonder if while the majority of Ark populations were in cryo that a skeleton crew remained awake to deal with any complications before they hit dark space. Also it took the reapers several months to hoof their way over to the next relay once the alpha relay was destroyed and I doubt the arks are as fast as the reapers. So there was a good chance the arks hadn't reached the edge of the Milky Way by the time ME 3 started. I imagine they were on communication blackout to avoid being discovered. But the whole thing could have been a close call.
We don't even know WHEN they are leaving (might be they were constructed after ME1 - but they might also have started way later and they are actually leaving when the Reapers are already there!) and from where (I don't know why so many people think "Oh a blue planet with loads of cities on it - must be Earth!" despite there being COLONIES of the Asari/Salarians/Turians etc. that are as developed as Earth is because they've been colonized centuries or even millenia ago! So the Arks might be stationed in such a system (which despite being highly developed would not be a main target - the homeworlds are more important, not only because they are the centers of government but also because they are morally important for the species who fight the Reapers!) to receive their last passengers before leaving and the Alliance fleet is only there because let's face it: Humanity lost their space pretty fast (no territory left to defend, so those fleets aren't tied down anymore!), so they can act as a guard force (without leaving territory undefended because the Reapers already control most of Alliance space!) and maybe to deliver some of the last humans to board those Arks!)
ps: Of course the Alliance Fleet(s) not being tied down anymore only applies if the war has already started! If not, then maybe the Alliance guards those Arks because the Turian fleet movements are watched (and they as the new council race aren't watched as much?)
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Posté 15 juin 2016 - 05:56
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I don't think we're going to see scenes of Reapers blowing up Arks. Then, they'd have to get into the whole "Reaper thing" with newcomers. It would be just as easy to wait until Andromeda to let our enemies blow one up, if one has to die. I'm sure they're getting attacked in Andromeda, at some point. Not everyone will be happy to see us.
If we leave before the invasion, and depending upon where these things are constructed, they'd almost definitely use the Relays to get into optimal departure position*. It's impossible to guess, though, with no data.
* I know we saw the Arks above Earth, but I don't believe they'd have been built in Earth's orbit. There's never been mention of any special shipyards above Earth. This is something you carefully position to optimally coordinate supplies and materials, concerns like that. Even security concerns wouldn't justify assembling it above your homeworld. One can't claim it was to defend it from the Reapers, since "Ah, yes. Reapers.", no?
I think there is just as much chance that this thing is a huge science project, rather than an escape plan. I'm looking forward to learning if I'm right or wrong, and getting to the story.
Why does it have to be Earth? I can be almost any established colony from one of the other races look at my last post for an explanation why the Alliance Fleet is there in force!)
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Posté 15 juin 2016 - 08:19
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Maybe only one left for Andromeda? When I saw multiple arks I assumed they'd be sent to different galaxies to maximise the chance that at least one of them will be successful.
It would make more sense to send all of them to one single galaxy if you are talking chances. If you are going to send arks to different galaxies some far some close (Andromeda is the closest I believe) that would reduce the odds of getting into a single one.
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Posté 15 juin 2016 - 08:24
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It would make more sense to send all of them to one single galaxy if you are talking chances. If you are going to send arks to different galaxies some far some close (Andromeda is the closest I believe) that would reduce the odds of getting into a single one.
It's risky either way but I think it is better to send everyone to the same place so we can pool more resources and manpower together when you get there because we have no idea what we will run to in Andromeda.
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Posté 15 juin 2016 - 09:44
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It would make more sense to send all of them to one single galaxy if you are talking chances. If you are going to send arks to different galaxies some far some close (Andromeda is the closest I believe) that would reduce the odds of getting into a single one.
Andromeda is not the closest.
http://www.universet...-the-milky-way/
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Posté 15 juin 2016 - 09:51
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It's just the closest big galaxy. Andromeda and the Milky Way are the two big kids on the block from what I understand when it comes to our local cluster. No Andromedans better be bragging about their galaxy being bigger. We have Thresher Maws.
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Posté 16 juin 2016 - 01:30
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Maybe only one left for Andromeda? When I saw multiple arks I assumed they'd be sent to different galaxies to maximise the chance that at least one of them will be successful.
BioWare would never write something this sensible.
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Posté 16 juin 2016 - 01:38
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Sensible would also include trying to reach one of the Magellanic clouds instead of a risky centuries long trip to a far distant galaxy.BioWare would never write something this sensible.
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Posté 16 juin 2016 - 02:25
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Why does it have to be Earth? I can be almost any established colony from one of the other races look at my last post for an explanation why the Alliance Fleet is there in force!)
I can clearly see North America in the video. It's definitely Earth. That doesn't mean things won't change by release, though.
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Posté 16 juin 2016 - 02:58
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Maybe only one left for Andromeda? When I saw multiple arks I assumed they'd be sent to different galaxies to maximise the chance that at least one of them will be successful.
Oh, great... Well, if that's real, we are almost indefinitely not going back to the Milky Way galaxy, like, ever.
Well, okay, maybe in, like, twenty to thirty years.
