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The Arks look like a human dominated project based off the trailer.

 

Many people have an idealistic view of who The Ark/s will take aboard.  It'll house nearly every Milky Way race is what they'll tell you.

 

 

Since this is largely a human project I expect The Ark's inhabitants to all have great respect for humanity.  Simply put the individual aliens on the ship love humanity or don't hate us in the least.

 

Humans are the best at making everyone work together as proven by BroShep in ME3.

 

 

Some of you are concerned about old grudges in the Milky Way.  Humans would be the ideal mediators due to having the least bad blood in the galactic community.

 

Those cute Asari are seen as diplomats but they were apart of The Krogan Rebellions.

 

 

Salarian-Krogan-Turians all have it with each other.

 

 

Among the major races we only have a historical tension with Turians.  But it's minor compared to the other beefs.

 

The only race Humans undoubtedly f'd over were Batarians.  Then again they already caused drama for the galaxy prior to us blowing up their star system.

 

 

Asari like sleeping with humans.

 

Turians are our brothers in arm.

 

Krogans have no real reason to hate us.

 

Salarians seem neutral towards us at the very least.

 

Drells behave like introverted humans with better memory.

 

Quarians are too busy dealing with Geth to hate anyone.  +1 to Humanity as we weren't apart of The Council when it said F you to the Quarians.



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How is the alliance alone going to fund this project and come up with resources and manpower to put it into motion?  This is most likely a council project.


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The Arks look like a human dominated project based off the trailer.

 

Many people have an idealistic view of who The Ark/s will take aboard.  It'll house nearly every Milky Way race is what they'll tell you.

 

 

Since this is largely a human project I expect The Ark's inhabitants to all have great respect for humanity.  Simply put the individual aliens on the ship love humanity or don't hate us in the least.

 

Humans are the best at making everyone work together as proven by BroShep in ME3.

 

 

 

 

Asari like sleeping with humans.

 

Turians are our brothers in arm.

 

Krogans have no real reason to hate us.

 

Salarians seem neutral towards us at the very least.

 

Drells behave like introverted humans with better memory.

 

Quarians are too busy dealing with Geth to hate anyone.  +1 to Humanity as we weren't apart of The Council when it said F you to the Quarians.

 

Asari have sex with any species, not humans in particular.

Turians hold a grudge against us for First Contact World.

Krogans have no real reason to hate us, neither the Asari, nor Drell, Volus, Batarians, Elcor, Geth, Quarians, etc. We are not so especial in that point.

Salarian goverments don't trust in other especies goverments very easily. 

We know very little about the Drell. I'm not sure they are introverted humans with better memory.



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How is the alliance alone going to fund this project and come up with resources and manpower to put it into motion?  This is most likely a council project.

Being the project lead doesn't mean all expenses are coming out of your pocket.

 

An entrepreneur can put in some of his own money and have the bulk of the venture be financed externally.

 

Let say humans were doing most the work and had the largest investment.  If it comes down to any one race, humans are leading and owning The Ark.

 

Asari have sex with any species, not humans in particular.

Turians hold a grudge against us for First Contact World.

Krogans have no real reason to hate us, neither the Asari, nor Drell, Volus, Batarians, Elcor, Geth, Quarians, etc. We are not so especial in that point.

Salarian goverments don't trust in other especies goverments very easily. 

We know very little about the Drell. I'm not sure they are introverted humans with better memory.

Turians were also the first race to offer aid during The Reaper Wars.

 

The thing with Krogans is they respect might.  It was a human leading the takeout of crackhead agent of Reaper galactic domination Saren.



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The Arks look like a human dominated project based off the trailer.

That's evidence they're doubling down on the "human as explorers" marketing angle, not of the Ark being a human endeavor. What we see could very easily be the Ark on a stop to pick up people from Earth. Too early to tell.



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Nice to have some pride in our race.

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Political Implications


Ahem.



On a serious note, weren't some of the other races salty that humanity got put on the council before them?

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This better not happen. It doesn't make sense for humans to be at the lead of everything.
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This better not happen. It doesn't make sense for humans to be at the lead of everything.

This coming from a human. Well....all the races are in it together.

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It's never been said that the Arks are a human endeavor. It was said that "we", as in our player character and we community of players partaking in her journey, would be looking for a new home for mankind.

I seriously doubt this is a "human" endeavor. What little evidence we have suggests a multi-species mission. There's no way the other species would go along with "the humans are the bosses. We're just their bitches on this one" stuff I've been seeing. Remember, in 2183, many still disliked us. We would not be viewed as the first choice to lead an intergalactic colonization effort.
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On a serious note, weren't some of the other races salty that humanity got put on the council before them?

 

I do enjoy watching the volus ambassador have his little hissy fit about having to share an embassy.

 

Chastising rebuke, Din.



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I would not consider us ideal mediators....lol

 

Though I do think this is likely a human funded private project. I don't necessarily think this will be one funded by the alliance.



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This better not happen. It doesn't make sense for humans to be at the lead of everything.

You got a Saren avi



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If humans are in charge and the ark left before the war, there is no way that there will be any batarians on board. Drell and quarians probably won't be either, because their low population numbers and cultures would make it difficult to get volunteers. No one would want to deal with the huge hassle of raising civilised vorcha. Blue box AI's like EDI are mostly illegal. I wouldn't be surprised if a human led ark decided to forego including dextro amino species because of the logistical problems, which would mean no turians or volus. And obviously, no rachni or geth.

 

So my predicitions are no:

-batarians

-drell

-quarians

-vorcha

-synthetics

-rachni

 

and probably no:

-turians

-volus

 

Then again, I'm surprised they opted to include krogans given their reputation with the rest of the galaxy.



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I would not consider us ideal mediators....lol

 

Though I do think this is likely a human funded private project. I don't necessarily think this will be one funded by the alliance.

Maybe not ideal but better than the rest

 

Krogan are probably the most dangerous race on The Ark.  The leading race must be one they respect and ideally like.

 

With the recent azz kicking of Saren they see humans as Alpha.

 

From a Krogan perspective the Salarian, Quarians, Asari, etc must come across as buncha Betas.

 

Krogan know Turian military might but hate them.

 

Think about it if you were a Krogan with a godly redundant nervous system, the idea of someone dying because of a puncture in their no germs suit is silly.



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This coming from a human. Well....all the races are in it together.


Yes...uh, human. I'm one of those!

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If humans are in charge and the ark left before the war, there is no way that there will be any batarians on board. Drell and quarians probably won't be either, because their low population numbers and cultures would make it difficult to get volunteers. No one would want to deal with the huge hassle of raising civilised vorcha. Blue box AI's like EDI are mostly illegal. I wouldn't be surprised if a human led ark decided to forego including dextro amino species because of the logistical problems, which would mean no turians or volus. And obviously, no rachni or geth.

 

So my predicitions are no:

-batarians

-drell

-quarians

-vorcha

-synthetics

-rachni

 

and probably no:

-turians

-volus

 

Then again, I'm surprised they opted to include krogans given their reputation with the rest of the galaxy.

The Milky Way perspective is that Krogans are the ideal EXPLORERS

 

ExplorersWanted-02.png

 

These guys can handle all kinds of environments.



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This better not happen. It doesn't make sense for humans to be at the lead of everything.


I agree but as the OP said, the trailer, as well as what we've heard so far in the interviews paint a different picture. We can only hope that the different races will at least be equally represented and similar in strength of numbers and influence.

I've had my fill of nonsensical human centric plots in ME2/3. Right now, I just hope they'll at least leave Cerberus out of it.

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Likely a Council secret project, that may have started as pure exploration, turned into evacuation plan in case of the worst. A purely human project has a problem, why would they take alien colonists on board? Annd i dont care what logistical problems, they will take at least turians.

 

I just remembered there were rumors of a book coming before the game, maybe it shares some light on this whole thing.



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If anything Andromeda might focus on the "human faction's" story but ours isn't the only story for MW races that made the journey.  And what happens to us will probably intertwine with the other MW factions as well as how MW races interact with the Andromeda races.  We will probably be building up alliances and brokering deals between MW races and Andromeda races while fighting others.  If anything the MW races could affect the balance of power for the Andromeda races in that region of Andromeda.



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I was kinda hoping the first settled planet in Andromeda was gonna be a glorious multispecies/cultural utopia.


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This better not happen. It doesn't make sense for humans to be at the lead of everything.

If it's a Council project then they're co-leads anyway (as the thing can't happen before ME1 considering less advanced version of Mako and other tech), stomping on Drell, Quarian etc as usual. Not that big of a difference



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If humans are in charge and the ark left before the war, there is no way that there will be any batarians on board. Drell and quarians probably won't be either, because their low population numbers and cultures would make it difficult to get volunteers. No one would want to deal with the huge hassle of raising civilised vorcha. Blue box AI's like EDI are mostly illegal. I wouldn't be surprised if a human led ark decided to forego including dextro amino species because of the logistical problems, which would mean no turians or volus. And obviously, no rachni or geth.

 

So my predicitions are no:

-batarians

-drell

-quarians

-vorcha

-synthetics

-rachni

 

and probably no:

-turians

-volus

 

Then again, I'm surprised they opted to include krogans given their reputation with the rest of the galaxy.

 

I disagree - they'd probably take as many races (all of the main ones and the more important others (Quarians, Krogan, Drell, Geth, Batarians - not sure about the Hanar, the Volus, the Vorcha and the Elcor - even more so if you see it from an engineer's perspective: All races mentioned - except the Krogan! - fit into a standard stasis pod and the Krogan are just too usefull (they can take more punishment than most others and they have long lives!) to leave behind!) as possible (even if you only see it from the dev's perspective: Snubbing the fans isn't that great an idea, particularly if you have done so repeatedly in the past and know that they don't forget that easily!)



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I hope not.

The most cringe worthy moments in the game for me is when sone idiot goes and uses the word 'Humanity' like I'm supposed to care.

Patriotism's bad enough without making it blanket Patriotism for an entire species; let alone one that doesn't even get along with itself.

Then again. I don't particularly like other human beings either, so I can relate to that.

Humans are literally the last thing I care about in a space setting. We're racist, war hungry dicks, who ****** off everything we don't destroy and then complain that its not our fault, expecting sympathy.

Much rather we avoid the line "I'm doing this for humanity" or "You're doing this for humanity" also "The fate of humanity is at stake."

I care more about the fate of everyone else to be honest and moving forward recognising we all have a role to play.
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Lot of people cringing whenever things revolve around humans.

 

I take it we have lotta introverts here since it a message board who aren't people persons?