there might not be a difference in a larger sense, a barren rock world isn't gonna be magically more interesting in the Milky Way. What it does say is that BioWare is cowardly or incompetent in the face of their own writing.
Not really. Deciding against dealing with a mass of variables, both large and small, cherished by its legion of fans isn't cowardly or incompetent.
Running away to the nearest galaxy with your tail between your legs certainly is cowardly though.
They don't want to confront the endings which is understandable on some level (even if I don't think its a good idea overall) but at best this is going to just delay things, unless they plan on permanently moving the timeline to Andromeda, but everything that I've seen so far indicates that they want to keep as much as they can from the original games, hell even the Ark looks like the Citadel, they just want to avoid the baggage of the endings. So I don't believe that they have some new story that can only be told in another galaxy. And as for them not touching the endings out of respect for player choice, I would ask when has BioWare ever really cared about maintaining player choice for their settings, they've always changed things around significantly to suit a new entry into the series.
For some reason you guys are very sure things would have been fine in milky way. Say Bioware managed to create a world state where endings are more or less respected. Then what? There is nothing new. They need to invent reapers #2. Heck even Krogan fate is varied to be able to base the game on a Krogan rebellion, not to mention it would be utterly boring.
Reapers become the main part of the game few minutes into mass effect 1, and ME3 concludes it. That story is over, so in my book the more fresh the story the better. New Galaxy is as fresh as it goes.
That wasn't the doing of "Super MAC" and it started long before ME3, with Shepard and crew traveling every which direction across the relay network, scanning countless planets in ME2. And you'll still have to deal with the Fermi Paradox if/when you manage to interact with an advanced species.
Hurdles and holes. Better to deal with hurdles and holes while doing something "cool" like colonizing a distant galaxy with reset stakes and boundless possibilities.
How many stars are in the Milky Way?
One hundred billion at the low end. That's 100,000,000,000. I don't know about you, but that's a lot of zeroes.
For some reason you guys are very sure things would have been fine in milky way. Say Bioware managed to create a world state where endings are more or less respected. Then what? There is nothing new. They need to invent reapers #2. Heck even Krogan fate is varied to be able to base the game on a Krogan rebellion, not to mention it would be utterly boring.
Reapers become the main part of the game few minutes into mass effect 1, and ME3 concludes it. That story is over, so in my book the more fresh the story the better. New Galaxy is as fresh as it goes.
At some point a story gets so "fresh" you wonder why they're putting the same title on it.
Running away to the nearest galaxy with your tail between your legs certainly is cowardly though.
They don't want to confront the endings which is understandable on some level (even if I don't think its a good idea overall) but at best this is going to just delay things, unless they plan on permanently moving the timeline to Andromeda, but everything that I've seen so far indicates that they want to keep as much as they can from the original games, hell even the Ark looks like the Citadel, they just want to avoid the baggage of the endings. So I don't believe that they have some new story that can only be told in another galaxy. And as for them not touching the endings out of respect for player choice, I would ask when has BioWare ever really cared about maintaining player choice for their settings, they've always changed things around significantly to suit a new entry into the series.
They want to have their cake and eat it too. They want their terribad endings but not the baggage that came with it.
At some point a story gets so "fresh" you wonder why they're putting the same title on it.
Its just a symbolic name for a technology that actually doesn't exist aka "mass effect fields". At this point its just a trademark. The ark is most likely using this technology anyway.
That wasn't the doing of "Super MAC" and it started long before ME3, with Shepard and crew traveling every which direction across the relay network, scanning countless planets in ME2. And you'll still have to deal with the Fermi Paradox if/when you manage to interact with an advanced species.
Hurdles and holes. Better to deal with hurdles and holes while doing something "cool" like colonizing a distant galaxy with reset stakes and boundless possibilities.
How many stars are in the Milky Way?
One hundred billion at the low end. That's 100,000,000,000. I don't know about you, but that's a lot of zeroes.
Who cares? RBG makes them all untouchable after ME3.
Which is a rather large part of why ME3's endings are so terrible.
Which is a rather large part of why ME3's endings are so terrible.
How many stars are in the Milky Way?
One hundred billion at the low end. That's 100,000,000,000. I don't know about you, but that's a lot of zeroes.
In what universe was EA/Bioware not going to make a follow on to one of the most popular and highly ranked game series of all time?... ad nauseum, ad nauseum, snip -
I agree that Bioware painted themselves into a corner with the ME3 endings, but at the time they clearly weren't expecting to make another game.
....ad nauseum, ad nauseum, snip .
It sure is. Point remains.
As ME points out, the vast majority of them yield nothing but mineral resources and inhospitable conditions.
For there to be anything of substance behind these dormant relays, beyond "Speaker for the Dead"-style stories, they're going to have to jump over some major hurdles and sidestep big holes. Why bother with a setting whose stakes have been tapped completely out?
I think I said this in another thread: if hypothetical good ME3 doesn't offer galaxy altering political choices that make any follow-up impossible - and I disagree with the idea that it wouldn't have, seeing how ME1 basically made Council politics impossible with Shepard killing them all off, replacing them, or otherwise trying to plant some uber-racist all human council that thankfully ME2 just forgot about - then we still have an issue that there's not really much there to tell about a small scale political plot. It would be a huge shift in tone and direction for the series.
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Running away to the nearest galaxy with your tail between your legs certainly is cowardly though.
They don't want to confront the endings which is understandable on some level (even if I don't think its a good idea overall) but at best this is going to just delay things, unless they plan on permanently moving the timeline to Andromeda, but everything that I've seen so far indicates that they want to keep as much as they can from the original games, hell even the Ark looks like the Citadel, they just want to avoid the baggage of the endings. So I don't believe that they have some new story that can only be told in another galaxy. And as for them not touching the endings out of respect for player choice, I would ask when has BioWare ever really cared about maintaining player choice for their settings, they've always changed things around significantly to suit a new entry into the series.
Some retcons are good, yep.I: if hypothetical good ME3 doesn't offer galaxy altering political choices that make any follow-up impossible - and I disagree with the idea that it wouldn't have, seeing how ME1 basically made Council politics impossible with Shepard killing them all off, replacing them, or otherwise trying to plant some uber-racist all human council that thankfully ME2 just forgot about -
A lot of us wanted such a shift on the merits. Whether such a game would have been marketable, though..... that's above my pay grade.then we still have an issue that there's not really much there to tell about a small scale political plot. It would be a huge shift in tone and direction for the series.
If Walters and Hudson worked on Skyrim, they would have destroyed all of Nirn with the RGB. Not even all the daedric princes combined could reality warp it away.
Running away to the nearest galaxy with your tail between your legs certainly is cowardly though.
It sure is. Point remains.
As ME points out, the vast majority of them yield nothing but mineral resources and inhospitable conditions.
For there to be anything of substance behind these dormant relays, beyond "Speaker for the Dead"-style stories, they're going to have to jump over some major hurdles and sidestep big holes. Why bother with a setting whose stakes have been tapped completely out?
If only a tenth of a percent of the lower-end estimate of stars in the galaxy has a planet capable of supporting life, that's still a hundred million planets
Just the area of explored space we saw in the trilogy yielded about a dozen space-faring races. And that was less than 1% of the galaxy.
If only a tenth of a percent of the lower-end estimate of stars in the galaxy has a planet capable of supporting life, that's still a hundred million planets
Just the area of explored space we saw in the trilogy yielded about a dozen space-faring races. And that was less than 1% of the galaxy.
Cowardly? That's as idiotic as Shepard's lines in the ME3 prologue. You'd be doing your duty to your species.
BioWare is doing their duty to our species?
You're treating it as if we only touched upon this itty-bitty little corner of the galaxy. We didn't. The areas traversed are spread across the entire galaxy, and the space-faring races have come out of the woodwork from those areas, utilizing the relays. Anyone we interact with will be less advanced and will have to tiptoe around the fact that they haven't emerged into the galactic landscape until now.
And the relay network has never been fully explored. Not even in the Protheans' time, and the current cycle hasn't expanded as far as they have.
Who knows what could lie beyond a locked relay? Know knows how many stars it connects to?There could be any number of advanced races out there who, for whatever reason simply haven't found us yet.
And that doesn't even cover the races that might arise outside the relay network. And perhaps might develop FTL based on something other than mass effect fields.
Who knows what could lie beyond a locked relay? Know knows how many stars it connects to?There could be any number of advanced races out there who, for whatever reason simply haven't found us yet.
And that doesn't even cover the races that might arise outside the relay network.
And perhaps might develop FTL based on something other than mass effect fields.
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