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[Element Zero]

True enough. I've seen several movie directors getting anxious and bummed at the end of a production, almost like some post-partum syndrome, and that was before their movie was even released. They usually got better when it was selected by movie festivals though.

I don't know if he was serious about the therapy bit, or not; but the never-ending backlash must've been gut-wrenching, after a decade of work. I hated the endings as much as anyone, but I did feel badly for most of the team. What was to be their finest moment became a horror.

[Kamal-N7]

Guys, there's confirmed leaked gameplay footage that proves they could have shown extensive, direct gameplay if they wanted to. That's not how they wanted to handle this trailer.

Do you have a link to it?

[Sartoz]

 

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Why would a video now be worse than a video in November if they all need to do at this point is polish things?  . 

 

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Think about it.... really

[Element Zero]

Guys, there's confirmed leaked gameplay footage that proves they could have shown extensive, direct gameplay if they wanted to. That's not how they wanted to handle this trailer.

I don't think anyone (sane) was doubting the fact that the game is playable. They tweet about playing it daily, and we've seen brief peeks of gameplay. Everyone is just curious why they've chosen not to show the world their progress. It's an atypical choice, and people here are definitely self-interested in wanting to see more.

Are they waiting because the game still sort of looks like ass compared to the competition? It's easy to throw together a trailer of pretty assets, but gameplay would be more telling, perhaps. I don't know for certain what their thoughts are, but I got the impression that they feel the game isn't ready, yet.

[dreamgazer]

Do you have a link to it?

Not handy, but I'll dig it up later if someone doesn't beat me to it.

 

EDIT: Here we go. 

 

[JenMaxon]

They're going for a Fallout4 marketing approach, waiting until a couple months before release to actually show us the game. Which kinda sucks cause I find it hard to care about MEA right now.

 

Gah - I hope not.  D'you remember getting two maps of ME3 multiplayer to play before release of the main game?  I played the c*** out of Ghost and White for about a month I think.

[Deadpool9]

That's all well and good, but what about the people that don't know that N7 Day even exists? The amount of eyes that will be on BioWare on some random day in November is smaller than the number of eyes who were on that stage at E3. Sure, they said "We'll show more in the fall" or whatever, but how many people who aren't already invested in the ME franchise will remember that?

 

If they cared to watch during E3, they'll remember Bioware's words come this fall when news drops on all the major gaming sites and mags.  Besides that, we've got Gamescom in August and Tokyo Game Show in September.  And anything else Bioware chooses to do, including N7 Day.  Come on, Bioware!  Don't let me down!  My profile depends on it.  Avenge me!  *eats chimichanga and dies*

[Killroy]

The theory is that whatever you show will be overshadowed anyway, if not just drowned in the news and hype about games that release sooner. Releasing news (or, in video game's case, gameplay demos) on your own time, when there isn't white noise, doesn't always ensure more coverage, but it helps ensuring no one else gets coverage in that time.

 
That's not a theory. It's objectively wrong nonsense. The bigger and better the splash you make at E3 the more coverage you get. That's how it works. If everything got drowned out and overshadowed then how would anyone get coverage? You make no sense at all. The best showings get the most coverage and the most boring showings get drowned out/forgotten. 
 

Depends on what you figure "polish" means. I don't think the combat's likely to be in its final form now.

 
Then they wouldn't just be polishing things. If combat still needs such big tweaks that they can't show any of it then they're doing a hell of a lot more than polishing. 
 

What are you assuming? Obviously they're working on something or the game would be ready to ship now. So, what?

 
...are you trying to make me think you're stupid?

[Deadpool9]

 

But how could you, guy I've never even seen post here before, abandon this forum? We need you!

*revives*  

 

Well, if *you've* never seen me post here before, then did I ever really post here before?  

 

Besides, you don't need Deadpool.  You want Deadpool.  There's a difference, y'know?  

 

Take the bet.  Your 2600 vs. my 600.  It's a good bet!  I wouldn't lie to you, would I?  Feel like a virgin touched for the very first time, or your money back!

[Killroy]

*revives*  

 

Well, if *you've* never seen me post here before, then did I ever really post here before?  

 

Besides, you don't need Deadpool.  You want Deadpool.  There's a difference, y'know?  

 

Take the bet.  Your 2600 vs. my 600.  It's a good bet!  I wouldn't lie to you, would I?  Feel like a virgin touched for the very first time, or your money back!

 

But you're not Deadpool, you're Deadpool9. That's pretty low rent, bro. I would take X-Men Origins:Wolverine Deadpool over Deadpool9.

[Deadpool9]

But you're not Deadpool, you're Deadpool9. That's pretty low rent, bro. I would take X-Men Origins:Wolverine Deadpool over Deadpool9.

 

Don't be scared, bro.  Bioware will be gentle.

[Killroy]

Don't be scared, bro.  Bioware will be gentle.

 

Go hop on some other bandwagon. Doctor Strange will probably be the next big superhero.

[Drone223]

If Bioware is still not willing to show actual gameplay after three E3's then there's a chance that Bioware isn't confident in ME:A especially if its about 9 months away from release.

[Giantdeathrobot]

 
That's not a theory. It's objectively wrong nonsense. The bigger and better the splash you make at E3 the more coverage you get. That's how it works. If everything got drowned out and overshadowed then how would anyone get coverage? You make no sense at all. The best showings get the most coverage and the most boring showings get drowned out/forgotten. 
 

 

 

Could you at least try to respond to anyone without coming across as insufferably passive-aggressive? The routine gets old after a while, is all.

 

Making a big splash costs money. Especially in an event like E3 where megacorporations like Microsoft and EA play. They pay people to cook up all their marketing, it's expensive as hell as sometimes costs almost as much as the game itself. If they think they can't/won't/aren't interested in making a big splash at that moment, they might want not to waste their ressources on something that won't get enough coverage for their investment. Thus, waiting on their own terms until they can make an announcement they think will have more bang for their buck. And give something minor in the meantime.

 

What interests EA is that the game has maximum coverage (and very preferably quality coverage) come release. That it comes at E3, Gamescom, N7 Day or anything along those lines is fairly irrelevant to them, I'd wager. 

 

That's how I see it anyway. No need to jump down anyone's throat.

[FKA_Servo]

If Bioware is still not willing to show actual gameplay after three E3's then there's a chance that Bioware isn't confident in ME:A especially if its about 9 months away from release.

 

Or this is just what they do now. Beth made a splash when they stealth'd up and dropped FO4 on us, but Bioware had been doing that all year, dropping new DLC releases with little or no warning.

 

It's a better approach than the alternative, honestly.

[dreamgazer]

If Bioware is still not willing to show actual gameplay after three E3's then there's a chance that Bioware isn't confident in ME:A especially if its about 9 months away from release.

 

Maybe they're so confident that they feel showing gameplay would be a waste of time. 

 

That's about as provable as the above statement, honestly. 

[Furisco]

This thread

 

[Sylvius the Mad]

Doctor Strange will probably be the next big superhero.

We all know it's true.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Then they wouldn't just be polishing things. If combat still needs such big tweaks that they can't show any of it then they're doing a hell of a lot more than polishing.

I don't think you know what polishing entails.

[MelThorn]

If BioWare shows anything that they might end up changing later, people will be angry.

 

If BioWare shows too little and people don't see enough to know whether to buy a game in the length of a full-term pregnancy, people will be angry.

 

[Drone223]

Or this is just what they do now. Beth made a splash when they stealth'd up and dropped FO4 on us, but Bioware had been doing that all year, dropping new DLC releases with little or no warning.

 

It's a better approach than the alternative, honestly.

Your completely wrong Bethesda announced the Fallout 4 at a least week or so before E3 and released the game in November that same year after they showed it off at E3. Bioware has done no such thing with some developer commentary in 2014, an announcement trailer in 2015 and they kept on saying they'll show more yet they end up showing nothing of interest. This E3 marks the third time they didn't bother to show off any gameplay all we got was yet another psuedo-BTS trailer.

 

Maybe they're so confident that they feel showing gameplay would be a waste of time. 

 

That's about as provable as the above statement, honestly. 

They had three E3's to show off gameplay they have no excuse not to show any gameplay this time round.

[dreamgazer]

They had three E3's to show off gameplay they have no excuse not to show any gameplay this time round.

 

They did.  It just wasn't in-your-face gameplay. It was edited within the footage. 

[Drone223]

They did.  It just wasn't in-your-face gameplay. It was edited within the footage. 

A few 5 second shoots of gameplay is not what people had in mind.

[The Dystopian Hound]

Go hop on some other bandwagon. Doctor Strange will probably be the next big superhero.

Doctor Strange is a gangsta.

[Spectr61]

Because the more hype they can generate, the more copies they will sell on day one before people realize what a poor excuse of a Mass Effect game they've made.Jesus Christ, I hope this is a joke, no one could possibly be this thin-skinned.I mean, beside Donald Trump.

Oh yes they can be that thin-skinned. And still are.

Both my warning posts (proudly flown) are from criticizing them for the ME3 endings and how it bodes ill for MEA that some of those responsible are somehow still in charge. Using language no stronger than doofus.

EA stock price tanked following negative fan reaction to the ME3 endings fiasco, resulting in a large loss in market capitalization for EA. (Google it if you want confirmation) EA's reaction to those in charge for this are probably why Mssrs Walters et Flynn are so sensitive.

Last chance?