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[Arcian]

No, let this be a standalone, non-canon spinoff title. When they realize what a silly premise going to Andromeda was, they can go back to the Milky Way, retcon the endings out of existence and then make the next real Mass Effect game.

[Gwydden]

Personally, I think one game, one big adventure, serves the protagonist better as well. It lets you close the book on their story definitively, without dragging them into increasingly outlandish scenarios. One nicely contained, well-told story.

As someone who's passionate about speculative fiction and fantasy literature in particular, I am fed up with endless stories that never come close to being resolved in what sometimes amount to dozens of tomes. These days I can barely muster the interest to follow anything that follows that... tradition.

 

I think autoconclusive entries in a series is a good compromise, and so far it seems like that's what Bioware's shooting for. Let's hope they keep at it.

 

EDIT: By the way, this is something I didn't like about DAI. Please, don't end a story on a cliffhanger. And please, don't try to up the ante and extend stuff pointlessly by bringing a bigger, badder antagonist into play.

[Killroy]

Yep. I'll give you tone, but that's not what I'm talking about. The lore and the setting has been pretty consistent - and distinctively well thought out in addition. Certainly compared with ME.

 

The lore definitely changes from game to game. The Qunari and their culture are different in every game, Dalish culture has largely changed, ancient Elven culture has been retconned, the Golden City(and the Maker) was retconned...

[DarthLaxian]

If this game turns out to be freaking awesome and most people love it would you sign a petition or want bioware to make this a trilogy? To be honest I already want a trilogy and not just a stand alone game. I may get attached to this Ryder character. I may not want the fun to end. I want to be in this for the long run. They said they are very interested in that. I just want to be Ryder for the remainder of tril and go on the path of DA where you have a new protagonist every game. I hate that.

 

Don't care (I don't get attached to the avatar - mostly because while there's some backstory they are still blank slates (I care more, a lot more (!), for the companions - that said: I'll miss Liara, Tali, Garrus, Wrex etc. a lot more than I will ever miss Shepard!) that allow me to do a self-insert (I don't roleplay in the classical sense, any character (even an alien, an elf etc.) is me and has my morals etc.)...a developed character? Now that's another can of worms entirely, I mean I love Geralt from The Witcher - still I am not that sad to see him go (as long as there's more games in this world later, even if Geralt is retired and you get to play as somebody else!)) if they make it a "you will stick with your character through multiple games" or give us a new one every game

 

ps: Why a trilogy, why not 4 games? Why not 5? What's this with trilogies?

[CuriousArtemis]

If this game turns out to be freaking awesome and most people love it would you sign a petition or want bioware to make this a trilogy? To be honest I already want a trilogy and not just a stand alone game. I may get attached to this Ryder character. I may not want the fun to end. I want to be in this for the long run. They said they are very interested in that. I just want to be Ryder for the remainder of tril and go on the path of DA where you have a new protagonist every game. I hate that.

 

I... actually assumed it's going to be a trilogy. It's not?? I don't know how that will work for ME series... ME is about building relationships and evolving over time, tackling huge problems that take multiple games to deal with.

[CuriousArtemis]

The lore definitely changes from game to game. The Qunari and their culture are different in every game, Dalish culture has largely changed, ancient Elven culture has been retconned, the Golden City(and the Maker) was retconned...

 

Agree, what DAI did with the Dalish i can never forgive...

[The Dystopian Hound]

Doing one-off games is a better approach than a trilogy. It allows the writers a lot more freedom to flesh out the setting, and a lot more space for creativity with the story. They don't have to worry about stretching one conflict out for three games (and subsequently degenerating into idiocy like ME does).

It makes introducing new characters in each game a lot more natural. Players expect new faces in each game, all the while expecting characters and relationships they know and love to make a return. You end up with a bloated cast of characters who don't get the attention and characterization they deserve. ME2 is the worst at this. The cast is about twice as big as it should have been, the characters are all undercooked, and barely any of them returned in any major capacity in the third game. A new game, with a new cast forming new relationships would do these characters justice far better.

Personally, I think one game, one big adventure, serves the protagonist better as well. It lets you close the book on their story definitively, without dragging them into increasingly outlandish scenarios. One nicely contained, well-told story.


Yep. I'll give you tone, but that's not what I'm talking about. The lore and the setting has been pretty consistent - and distinctively well thought out in addition. Certainly compared with ME.

You're right. More freedom. But Trilogy games that feature same protag are more fun. You get to see how you and those around you change. You get to make choices that affect the next game. It an adventure, an experience. That is what made ME so popular. I'm sure with technology today they can pull it off. I don't want to play as someone new. I want to play as someone who I've created. Made my own. I made these choices and spent all this time only to become someone else. Doesn't sit well with me. Give me at least a trilogy and a good story. Then move on to someone else.

[The Dystopian Hound]

I... actually assumed it's going to be a trilogy. It's not?? I don't know how that will work for ME series... ME is about building relationships and evolving over time, tackling huge problems that take multiple games to deal with.

They wanted more freedom but now they are so impressed with the game they are totally open to expanding upon it.

[The Dystopian Hound]

Don't care (I don't get attached to the avatar - mostly because while there's some backstory they are still blank slates (I care more, a lot more (!), for the companions - that said: I'll miss Liara, Tali, Garrus, Wrex etc. a lot more than I will ever miss Shepard!) that allow me to do a self-insert (I don't roleplay in the classical sense, any character (even an alien, an elf etc.) is me and has my morals etc.)...a developed character? Now that's another can of worms entirely, I mean I love Geralt from The Witcher - still I am not that sad to see him go (as long as there's more games in this world later, even if Geralt is retired and you get to play as somebody else!)) if they make it a "you will stick with your character through multiple games" or give us a new one every game

ps: Why a trilogy, why not 4 games? Why not 5? What's this with trilogies?

It can get stale after three games.

[CuriousArtemis]

They wanted more freedom but now they are so impressed with the game they are totally open to expanding upon it.

 

Man I hope so! Maybe they're reorganizing things and hence why they have so much left to do before release?

[The Dystopian Hound]

No, let this be a standalone, non-canon spinoff title. When they realize what a silly premise going to Andromeda was, they can go back to the Milky Way, retcon the endings out of existence and then make the next real Mass Effect game.

What's so Silly about it? Non canon? I think not. It's supposed to be a new start. I'm ready to go to Andromeda. I don't care if you aren't but it's time to move on.

[Dalinne]

TRILOGY!!!      

[FKA_Servo]

You're right. More freedom. But Trilogy games that feature same protag are more fun. You get to see how you and those around you change. You get to make choices that affect the next game. It an adventure, an experience. That is what made ME so popular. I'm sure with technology today they can pull it off. I don't want to play as someone new. I want to play as someone who I've created. Made my own. I made these choices and spent all this time only to become someone's else. Doesn't sit well with me. Give me at least a trilogy. Then move on to someone else.

 

Not if they get bumped to make room for the new cast.

 

Choices, though? In the context of Mass Effect and the Shepard trilogy, this is extra funny.

[sjsharp2011]

It can get stale after three games.

True plus the moer games the story covers the moer complicated the imports get and that could cause problems as it is I doubt the Dragon Age story will last more than say a couple more games given DAI is the 3rd game and the ,more decisions you choose to incorporate the more complicated it gets. Plus after a while it's better story wise to just simply press the reset button and start again with a nwe story which is what Bioware are doing here with MEA

[The Dystopian Hound]

Not if they get bumped to make room for the new cast.

Choices, though? In the context of Mass Effect and the Shepard trilogy, this is extra funny.

Shepard trilogy was great. I want to see a great trilogy like that again. You don't want that fine. But you are not all people.

[The Dystopian Hound]

Give me a trilogy or give me death.

[FKA_Servo]

Shepard trilogy was great. I want to see a great trilogy like that again. You don't want that fine.

 

You're within your rights to be painfully, demonstrably wrong. Having bad taste and low standards isn't a crime.

[The Dystopian Hound]

You're within your rights to be painfully, demonstrably wrong. Having bad taste and low standards isn't a crime.

Well in this case I guess that makes two of us.

[Stakrin]

Yes-I would not at all be upset by this becoming a trilogy

[FKA_Servo]

Well in this case I guess that makes two of us.

 

Probably not, but I guess you could put it up to a vote.

 

It'll probably be a lot of people complaining about how pants on head Cerberus and everything about ME2 and ME3 is again.

[Medhia_Nox]

As someone who's passionate about speculative fiction and fantasy literature in particular, I am fed up with endless stories that never come close to being resolved in what sometimes amount to dozens of tomes. These days I can barely muster the interest to follow anything that follows that... tradition.

 

I think autoconclusive entries in a series is a good compromise, and so far it seems like that's what Bioware's shooting for. Let's hope they keep at it.

 

EDIT: By the way, this is something I didn't like about DAI. Please, don't end a story on a cliffhanger. And please, don't try to up the ante and extend stuff pointlessly by bringing a bigger, badder antagonist into play.

 

While I would absolutely want this to not be confined to a trilogy (or a single game)... I totally agree that each story should be finished.

 

Even if the stories protagonist continues to the next game.  This story should be finished. 

That means that the goal of this story should receive a rising action, climax and falling action and then a conclusion.  It should not dangle...

 

And Bioware... please, do NOT use ME:A as a platform for the next game.

 

Now Gwydden has me panicked about another Trespasser... shame on you naughty purple cat.

[themikefest]

If the game is successful, I believe it will be, but time will tell,  it won't bother me if its a trilogy or just a stand alone game.

 

If it isn't, I'm sure EA has discussed, behind closed doors, what they would do. Again. Time will tell.

[Gramorla]

I still expect some kind of Keep for Mass Effect.

 

Even when they don't let major ME1-ME3 decisions have influence in ME:A.. there are still possible future ME games who can be influenced by ME:A Stuff... so i will not by too surprised when something like that get online.

[The Dystopian Hound]

USAC.

[FKA_Servo]

USAC -Lebowksi redacted-

 

Not just my opinion. You're very much the outlier in this case.