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[The Dystopian Hound]

Not just my opinion. You're very much the outlier in this case.

Yeah, well that's just Like your..... opinion man.

[SoSolaris]

I do hope it'll be expanded on, but not as another trilogy, exactly. I hope they'll leave it more open-ended, like Dragon Age's approach. As for the protagonist staying on or switching with each installment, I could go either way. It depends on how Ryder will be depicted.

[Stakrin]

I mean, the Shepard trilogy was great. I would absolutely love another trilogy.

[The Dystopian Hound]

I mean, the Shepard trilogy was great. I would absolutely love another trilogy.

Thanks. You're my new best friend.

[FKA_Servo]

Yeah, well that's just Like your..... opinion man.

 

Well, no. Let's take Cerberus for example.

 

Saying you like Cerberus is apparently an accurate statement. Your opinion is that they were a good antagonist. You've said as much yourself.

 

My opinion on Cerberus is that they were a one way ticket on the moron train. Sure, it's just, like, my opinion, but if our respective opinions had a slap fight, mine would probably win, because it's shared by many, many others. Meanwhile, I'm someone who spends too much time here on the BSN and I can name maybe one other weirdo who actually thinks Cerberus was legitimately great. Most folks think, correctly, that they were a hot turd and hold Mac Walters and his Cerboner in contempt.

 

The Shepard trilogy got pretty dumb. It's fine to like dumb things, but you should probably acknowledge them as such.

 

For my part, I just hope they took some valuable lessons from the Shepard trilogy of the "what to don't" variety. Not making it a trilogy would probably be a good start.

[The Dystopian Hound]

Well, no. Let's take Cerberus for example.

Saying you like Cerberus is apparently an accurate statement. Your opinion is that they were a good antagonist. You've said as much yourself.

My opinion on Cerberus is that they were a one way ticket on the moron train. Sure, it's just, like, my opinion, but if our respective opinions had a slap fight, mine would probably win, because it's shared by many, many others. Meanwhile, I'm someone who spends too much time here on the BSN and I can name maybe one other weirdo who actually thinks Cerberus was legitimately great. Most folks think, correctly, that they were a hot turd and hold Mac Walters and his Cerboner in contempt.

The Shepard trilogy got pretty dumb. It's fine to like dumb things, but you should probably acknowledge them as such.

For my part, I just hope they took some valuable lessons from the Shepard trilogy of the "what to don't" variety. Not making it a trilogy would probably be a good start.

So that is your opinion.

[FKA_Servo]

So that is your opinion.

 

My greater point is that all opinions aren't equally valid. Some opinions are dumb.

 

Although it's true that our opinions probably hold equal weight for Bioware, so small blessings. At least the Cerberus hate will be deafening.

[Gwydden]

My greater point is that all opinions aren't equally valid. Some opinions are dumb.

 

Although it's true that our opinions probably hold equal weight for Bioware, so small blessings. At least the Cerberus hate will be deafening.

Hey, Cerberus is an idea!

 

A very bad one, to be precise 

[Element Zero]

I'd rather not get caught up in a circular conversation, so I'll preface this with "in my opinion"...

I got the impression that they are building this as a single game with a "wait and see" attitude. If we love it, they will make another; and I wouldn't be shocked if it featured Ryder, once more. I doubt we will see another trilogy, though, in terms of seeing the same protagonist three games in a row, with a singular over-arching story. Trilogies are hard; especially when they have to juggle all these variable player choices. We saw that; and more importantly, the devs experienced it.

Also, trilogies often don't perform well with less than the most fully engaged audiences. Many of us might keep on buying a series of "Ryder" games, but the less devoted fans would more quickly fatigue.

If ME: Andromeda performs well, I'm sure we'll get another game. As long as the series is making money, EA will want BioWare to exploit it. As long as BioWare has stories to tell, I don't think they will mind. I'm not sure we will ever see another trilogy quite like the Shepard trilogy, though. It was more difficult for them to pull off than they'd hoped, I think. They over-promised in some of those late-stage ME3 interviews, unfortunately, and didn't come close to delivering on the ending. That's what many choose to remember most. They'd be smart to simply make good games in the future, and not repeat history.

[Felps Cross]

Here is how it goes: The first game stablishes the races in their new homes in the galaxy. The main plot and conflicts focuses on that. As it sells well, they plan new games with stuff coming from the uncharted territory (MEA will happen in a single cluster, so). 

 

Along with that, they actionize more the following games to attract a wider audience, as the rpg fans are already invested in it.

 

Maybe I'm wrong, but that's what happened with the original trilogy, can't doubt EA will make them do that again.

 

Also, I do believe they already want that. Time will tell.

[Element Zero]

Here is how it goes: The first game stablishes the races in their new homes in the galaxy. The main plot and conflicts focuses on that. As it sells well, they plan new games with stuff coming from the uncharted territory (MEA will happen in a single cluster, so). 
 
Along with that, they actionize more the following games to attract a wider audience, as the rpg fans are already invested in it.
 
Maybe I'm wrong, but that's what happened with the original trilogy, can't doubt EA will make them do that again.
 
Also, I do believe they already want that. Time will tell.

I think they are already happy with the balance of "action" in the gameplay. For the most part, ME3's gameplay seemed to be very well received. The devs have repeatedly said MEA will have gameplay strongly reminiscent of ME3. I'm not sure why you think they'd want to mess with their winning formula, now. It seems to be working for both old fans and new.

[Thibax]

Why do we have to wait for at least 5 years to see the ending?

 

I understand that if I like the game, I will want more. But I don't know if I will want to wait.

 

 

 

We can be dead 

[R0bE0]

Eh, well I'd have to play the game before truly declaring whether or not I want another trilogy. Some games are better off being a stand alone, whereas others work better in a trilogy. If BioWare isn't sure yet then I doubt they're formatting the game in a way that works in a trilogy. They want to test the waters before they commit to anything. 

In doing so it might not work story-wise as anything more than a stand-alone.

In my own personal opinion I highly doubt I would want another trilogy. If I'm being honest I didn't even want another Mass Effect game. And while I'm slowly warming up to the idea over time I am still highly skeptical of this game, let alone anymore games after it. As I said before I won't truly be able to give an opinion until I actually see the game, its plot, and what it has to bring to the table.

But as of now? No, I'm fine with it being just a stand-alone title.

[The Dystopian Hound]

I'm just expressing my opinion. I believe we have waited too long and have been hyped.up too much for just one game. I want to be in this for the long run. To be able to see Ryder develop Ryder into the hero we need him/her to be.

[FKA_Servo]

I'm just expressing my opinion. I believe we have waited too long and have been hyped.up too much for just one game. I want to be in this for the long run. To be able to see Ryder develop Ryder into the hero we need him/her to be.

 

I'm in the long haul too. I just don't want it to get stupid. I think we'd all be better served by standalone games loosely connected by an overarching narrative. And the Shepard Trilogy as my exhibit A gives me a ton of firepower.

 

I don't think Ryder needs to be that kind of hero though - s/he might be more compelling if s/he's not - and I desperately hope the stakes aren't anything like they were in the Shepard trilogy, because that's a recipe for stupid.

 

The really need to look hard at ME1, is all. Clean up the stuff that needs cleaning up, which I'm certain they will - the gameplay is probably the one thing that unambiguously improved over the course of the trilogy - but try to recapture what made ME1 such a treat. And for the love of god, stop while they're ahead and move on to the next story in that setting.

[The Dystopian Hound]

If they do decide to make a trilogy with Ryder out of this they can so something like a hybrid between dragon age keep and ME crossover system.

[Grieving Natashina]

My vote is for a trilogy as well. I really enjoyed playing as Shepard for more than one game. I felt like I had seen a new galaxy all through her eyes, and I really enjoyed that. With all of its flaws, I enjoyed the ride. It wasn't without it's problems for me though. My main concern is continuity. If a plot element is dependant upon one writer leaving, then don't do it. That was jarring going from ME2 with Tali's recruitment mission not shutting up about dark energy to no mention in ME3.

I love DA (even DA:I) but I'm becoming less and less of a fan of a new protagonist for every game. I don't feel like I've really gotten to know my character within a single game. This is not true for all the games I played. I've played plenty of games where I felt like I knew the player character. Saints Row 4 is one of my favorite games. I never played the other three and I still felt like I knew The Boss by the end. Note: If you're offended by strong language, don't play this game.

With DA, it's starting to feel disjointed. They introduce these characters like the Warden, Hawke and the Quizzy only to have them become almost irrelevant in future games. I said almost; Corypheus' release was Hawke's doing and that definitely had an impact on the greater story. It doesn't change how I feel about Hawke's presence in DA:I though. Frankly, the Fade sequence with Hawke and a Warden could have been done without Hawke playing a part in it all. She (in my case,) made a few comments and that was really about it. I liked Hawke, despite having the worst luck in Thedas, but her inclusion in DA:I was pretty pointless imho.

I'd also deal with it if we had a different protagonist for each ME:A game. It isn't my preference, but as long as they don't leave a huge sequel hook, I'm happy. Look at the original Star Wars. They left room for a sequel in case the movie did well, but the ending would have allowed the story to be over with. From what I read in the twitter thread yesterday, they are designing ME:A as a standalone with room for a sequel. To me, that translates into, "We're considering doing a trilogy, but we want to make sure ME:A sells well first."

[The Dystopian Hound]

My vote is for a trilogy as well. I really enjoyed playing as Shepard for more than one game. I felt like I had seen a new galaxy all through her eyes, and I really enjoyed that. With all of its flaws, I enjoyed the ride. It wasn't without it's problems for me though. My main concern is continuity. If a plot element is dependant upon one writer leaving, then don't do it. That was jarring going from ME2 with Tali's recruitment mission not shutting up about dark energy to no mention in ME3.

I love DA (even DA:I) but I'm becoming less and less of a fan of a new protagonist for every game. I don't feel like I've really gotten to know my character within a single game. This is not true for all the games I played. I've played plenty of games where I felt like I knew the player character. Saints Row 4 is one of my favorite games. I never played the other three and I still felt like I knew The Boss by the end. Note: If you're offended by strong language, don't play this game.

With DA, it's starting to feel disjointed. They introduce these characters like the Warden, Hawke and the Quizzy only to have them become almost irrelevant in future games. I said almost; Corypheus' release was Hawke's doing and that definitely had an impact on the greater story. It doesn't change how I feel about Hawke's presence in DA:I though. Frankly, the Fade sequence with Hawke and a Warden could have been done without Hawke playing a part in it all. She (in my case,) made a few comments and that was really about it. I liked Hawke, despite having the worst luck in Thedas, but her inclusion in DA:I was pretty pointless imho.

I'd also deal with it if we had a different protagonist for each ME:A game. It isn't my preference, but as long as they don't leave a huge sequel hook, I'm happy. Look at the original Star Wars. They left room for a sequel in case the movie did well, but the ending would have allowed the story to be over with. From what I read in the twitter thread yesterday, they are designing ME:A as a standalone with room for a sequel. To me, that translates into, "We're considering doing a trilogy, but we want to make sure ME:A sells well first."

I would give you a like but ive reached my quota for the day. Not fair.