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[physiolosopher]

The Disciple's DPS is ~10% higher than the Scimitar's, no matter how you slice it.  And that difference in DPS is only going to be bigger once you consider armor DR, which is going to hit the Scimitar harder.  Incendiary stacking isn't going to make that much of a difference.  

 

Also, if you're using the Disciple or Scimitar, you shouldn't be relying on your gun to take out bosses anyway.  If you're using a gun that light, it's because you want to spam your powers, and one would assume that you would therefore have some strong powers that you could use as your primary means of taking out bosses instead of relying on pea shooters.  If you don't need to spam powers, why are you using that gun in the first place?  Either take a Hurricane/BPP/CSMG/Eagle/etc. as a sidearm or just slap your Omni-Blade on the Raider or Piranha instead.

 

Perhaps, but assuming an extended barrel and AP rounds for both, the DPS gap is quite small. Other metrics, like damage per clip, may even be reversed. So my case is that they are roughly equivalent in efficacy so for whatever reasons the scimitar may appeal to some folks more than the disciple. In my tiny baby hands the scimitar is more effective. I get that the scimitar isn't great but saying it's useless is a little bit of stretch. If it was suddenly removed I wouldn't be happy. I'm sure there are some other lost souls out there who would feel the same.

 

On the second point, I use the OB setup a lot on my melee vanguards (kroguard, brawler) so the power spamming is just for charge. I typically do not charge into bosses. It's a big wonderful multiplayer world. Plenty of room for two dainty birdshot guns.

[7twozero]

I use scimitar and katana more than disciple, something about the reload and refire times bug me

[Fuenf789]

...DPS stuff...

Now imagine this.

[moment for silence]


What if your scimitar never needed reloading because any of your power animations did it for you? (Reload hiding(rlh) - not RLC). That and you deplete the wave budget bottom up, with keeping the mooks constantly refilling their slots.

Sure. some would say that a claymoar can also rlh. But then u have to find another sweetspot with another character with the right power cooldown (CD) or (power animation hide).

Empty a clip generously , apply power after emptied. Voila! Magically full clip. And Ready for the next volly.

So -I doubt that some would change their style just to enjoy the scimitar.

But. To quote Gusteau: "any one can cook"

I would hold : "any gun can shine", you just have to find the right character and play-style for it.

[Saikyo_McRyu]

You rang

[Miniditka77]

Now imagine this.

[moment for silence]


What if your scimitar never needed reloading because any of your power animations did it for you? (Reload hiding(rlh) - not RLC). That and you deplete the wave budget bottom up, with keeping the mooks constantly refilling their slots.

Sure. some would say that a claymoar can also rlh. But then u have to find another sweetspot with another character with the right power cooldown (CD) or (power animation hide).

Empty a clip generously , apply power after emptied. Voila! Magically full clip. And Ready for the next volly.

So -I doubt that some would change their style just to enjoy the scimitar.

But. To quote Gusteau: "any one can cook"

I would hold : "any gun can shine", you just have to find the right character and play-style for it.

 

Yes, any gun can shine.  My problem with the Scimitar, and why I think it's useless, is not because it's the worst gun on the game.  It's not - not by a long shot.  My problem with the Scimitar is that it's the most obsolete gun on the game, or at least the most obsolete non-Common gun on the game.  Every other gun Uncommon or higher has a "niche" - something unique about it that lets you play the gun in a unique and fun way.  I don't see that with the Scimitar.  I see a gun that isn't better than the Disciple in any way, and is annoying to use on top of that.  Others are free to disagree.

 

EDIT:  Bioware should have tightened the spread on the Scimitar.  Tighter than any other shotgun.  That would have made it cool.

[PatrickBateman]

I just saw wall of text, the answer is so simple, lord Venom, he will change your life!

[Loufi]

I just saw wall of text, the answer is so simple, lord Venom, he will change your life!

By making you addicted to solos ? Sounds appealing ! 

[The Real Pearl #2]

the best gun in the universe :^DDDDD

 

[Fuenf789]

^!electric slash. Team mates commit Harakiri, rather than hearing that sound again...

[Fuenf789]

Yes, any gun can shine. My problem with the Scimitar, and why I think it's useless, is not because it's the worst gun on the game. It's not - not by a long shot. My problem with the Scimitar is that it's the most obsolete gun on the game, or at least the most obsolete non-Common gun on the game. Every other gun Uncommon or higher has a "niche" - something unique about it that lets you play the gun in a unique and fun way. I don't see that with the Scimitar. I see a gun that isn't better than the Disciple in any way, and is annoying to use on top of that. Others are free to disagree.

EDIT: Bioware should have tightened the spread on the Scimitar. Tighter than any other shotgun. That would have made it cool.

Ok. Nevertheless some people shine with it. So it is possible. It's then fair to say that it's a gun that take some skill, and a character fitting like a glove to make it work. The reegar , hurricane, talon , harrier is on the other end of that scale, since it takes almost no special character or skill. And claymore , venom , talon a notch higher than simple ( requiring rlc, aiming at feet, estimating distances) respectively. would u agree with that?

[Sentinel2010]

M-99 for gold headshot medals.

[Miniditka77]

Ok. Nevertheless some people shine with it. So it is possible. It's then fair to say that it's a gun that take some skill, and a character fitting like a glove to make it work. The reegar , hurricane, talon , harrier is on the other end of that scale, since it takes almost no special character or skill. And claymore , venom , talon a notch higher than simple ( requiring rlc, aiming at feet, estimating distances) respectively. would u agree with that?

 

Yes, I agree it takes special skill to do well with the Scimitar.  

[Onewomanarmy]

Okay, now listen up everyone..... this is gonna come as a surprise.... but..... MY favorite weapon IS..... da da da daaaaaaaaa

 

The........

 

REEGAR!!!!!!!!!     

 

Yes I know you're all shocked, I understand completely, it was a shock to me as well but it happened so quickly and suddenly we fell in loooove  

[GeneralXIV]

Okay, now listen up everyone..... this is gonna come as a surprise.... but..... MY favorite weapon IS..... da da da daaaaaaaaa

 

The........

 

REEGAR!!!!!!!!!     

 

Yes I know you're all shocked, I understand completely, it was a shock to me as well but it happened so quickly and suddenly we fell in loooove  

 

Awwwwww Well i hope you 2 live long and happy lives together

 

 

... I wont say I love a Widow because it sounds weird but the Widow is my favorite gun I think I dont know it keeps changing!

[yrael]

Awwwwww Well i hope you 2 live long and happy lives together

 

 

... I wont say I love a Widow because it sounds weird but the Widow is my favorite gun I think I dont know it keeps changing!

I personally prefer the BW, but the Widow comes in a close second.

[GeneralXIV]

I personally prefer the BW, but the Widow comes in a close second.

 

I dont have it haha but ive heard it talked about on here and ive heard good things

[Fuenf789]

Okay, now listen up everyone..... this is gonna come as a surprise.... but..... MY favorite weapon IS..... da da da daaaaaaaaa

The........

REEGAR!!!!!!!!!

Yes I know you're all shocked, I understand completely, it was a shock to me as well but it happened so quickly and suddenly we fell in loooove

You should go for counselling gurl - the reegar is smothering u with the colour blue. It is infatious, insatiable and saturate your every fibre. The reegar will make you short sighted over time - recovery is slow but possible with the "introverted gun" - the venom (introv bc u know - only looking at feet). Get out while u still can- it will ruin your wealth in incen drugs and then hate u if u can't supply that drug anymore. A junky u will be- jumping from store pack to pack ever hoping on a fix just like catman and his ecstacy fix. Ring a Bell?

You deserve more from other gunners. Big guns, small guns, slow guns, fast guns - the variety is there- why give up on all that ?

[yrael]

I dont have it haha but ive heard it talked about on here and ive heard good things

I fell in love with it in SP and was over the moon when I got it in my first couple of weeks in MP. Sadly tho, I haven't been able to use it in a while because it doesn't fit with the challenges I've been working on. Sigh.

[GeneralXIV]

I fell in love with it in SP and was over the moon when I got it in my first couple of weeks in MP. Sadly tho, I haven't been able to use it in a while because it doesn't fit with the challenges I've been working on. Sigh.

 

When I first started playing I didnt like sniper rifles I tried the Mantis the Incisor and the Raptor a little and I didnt like them so much... then I found the Widow and its so easy to aim for me and it does really good damage even though mine is only level 1 and its amazing I can imagine the black widow is even better

[GeneralXIV]

Ohhhh and the Kyrsae or whatever... didnt like that it either needs to shoot faster like the raptor or do more damage! It was kinda useless haha

[yrael]

When I first started playing I didnt like sniper rifles I tried the Mantis the Incisor and the Raptor a little and I didnt like them so much... then I found the Widow and its so easy to aim for me and it does really good damage even though mine is only level 1 and its amazing I can imagine the black widow is even better

Ahahaha I would never use the Raptor without an autofire macro, honestly. Not a big fan of the Incisor overall, either. But I like the Mantis because it's lightweight and does a lot of damage for its rarity. Nice and reliable little gun.

 

Ohhhh and the Kyrsae or whatever... didnt like that it either needs to shoot faster like the raptor or do more damage! It was kinda useless haha

Krysae used to be really OP, but BioWare nerfed the damage and RoF so now it's just a pointless gimmicky weapon.

[GeneralXIV]

Ahahaha I would never use the Raptor without an autofire macro, honestly. Not a big fan of the Incisor overall, either. But I like the Mantis because it's lightweight and does a lot of damage for its rarity. Nice and reliable little gun.

 

Krysae used to be really OP, but BioWare nerfed the damage and RoF so now it's just a pointless gimmicky weapon.

 

Ummmm whats an auto fire macro???

 

And haha I like the Mantis now its level 10 but before it was only level 4

 

And haha yes I really dont like it

[yrael]

Ummmm whats an auto fire macro???

 

And haha I like the Mantis now its level 10 but before it was only level 4

 

And haha yes I really dont like it

It's a PC thing. Basically, you use a special program to assign a key to the function of the left mouse button and hold down that key instead of clicking a bunch of times to fire weapons like the Raptor or Mattock rapidly. Saved me from a lot of frustration and hand cramps.

[GeneralXIV]

It's a PC thing. Basically, you use a special program to assign a key to the function of the left mouse button and hold down that key instead of clicking a bunch of times to fire weapons like the Raptor or Mattock rapidly. Saved me from a lot of frustration and hand cramps.

 

It's a PC thing. Basically, you use a special program to assign a key to the function of the left mouse button and hold down that key instead of clicking a bunch of times to fire weapons like the Raptor or Mattock rapidly. Saved me from a lot of frustration and hand cramps.

 

So you kinda make the game click for you???

[yrael]

So you kinda make the game click for you???

I make a program click for me when I activate caps lock, more like.