Depends if they do something like the Dragon Age Keep for Mass Effect and include at least parts of the Shepard Trilogy in it.
If they do, then it is easy: just choose the sex you want Shepard will be and the few references will change according.
If they don't, also easy: Just never reference the sex or use gender-neutral pronouns like 'they'.
If the Ark leaves before the end of ME3, then I wouldn't be surprised if you heard this:
"I'm Commander Shepard. And this is my favorite store on the Ark."
I guess they don't have system that gives information of ME1-3 choices to ME:A this time so it's just better to keep Shepard gender-neutral. I don't think it would be big problem if s/he was just referred as Commander Shepard. I wouldn't really like if they referred her/him with certain gender cause that would make one of my Shepard story's automatically backstory without giving me choice to headcanon what is going on Milky Way (I choose different endings for all 3).
If the Ark leaves before the end of ME3, then I wouldn't be surprised if you heard this:
"I'm Commander Shepard. And this is my favorite store on the Ark."
Shep should just be referred to by their proper title, Space Jesus.
yeah I htink they'll just cal them by name so as to stay neutral same as with the endings because some played male some played female I've played both but then I've done loads of playthroughs and am likely to do more as well.
They'll just call him Shepard or Commander Shepard or some variation without calling out gender if we even ever hear about him beyond a quick passing note from someone from the Milky Way.
They left everything behind story wise for a reason, and alienating players by forcing a canon gender is a baaad idea. They did it for Revan in SWTOR and I know a lot of people who got pissed at that.
Depends if they do something like the Dragon Age Keep for Mass Effect and include at least parts of the Shepard Trilogy in it.
If they do, then it is easy: just choose the sex you want Shepard will be and the few references will change according.
If they don't, also easy: Just never reference the sex or use gender-neutral pronouns like 'they'.
I'd be all for that, but BW wants a clean slate. There wil be no saves and a Genesis comic is highly unlikely, so the most there will be is a mention of Shepard. The ending of ME3 is all just "speculation" anyway, so maybe ReaperShep (Control Ending) beat Ryder to Andromeda and is living the high life somewhere. ;P
If they leave the MW during ME3, they obviously knows who Shepard is. Acting like Shepard doesn't exist would be weird in that case.
Shepard will be referenced by the name and not the gender, just like i'm doing right now.
I like the way Kotor2 handles it, you correct the other person that Revan is a girl or a boy and the game react accordingly. Then again, Karpyshynn ruins it by making Revan another Anakin Skywalker and killing off Exile who became Revan's doorknob fangirl (Karpyshynn really really love making somewhat interesting female characters into adoring airheads). In SWTOR, Revan's arc on Dromund Kaas made it neutral. Nobody knew Revan's gender and its a mystery... until the flashpoints and the whole nutjob thingy in SOR. There's hardly any consequences or lore expansion with default characters like Satele Shan and Theron Shan. But of course, these MMO-ers are only happy about repetitive flashpoints and Ops to care about consistencies and gigantic plot holes and another rehash Kai Leng... thankfully they retcon Vitiate in KOTFE and Children of the Emperor isn't another indoctrinated force sensitive slaves.
Anyway, its a Bioware game where you're given choice to play either gender. So in all my playthroughs, Shepard is a girl. Revan is a girl. Warden is a girl. Hawke is a girl. Inquisitor is a girl. Lord Wrath is a girl. Darth Nox is a girl. Barsen'thor is a girl. Cipher 9 is a girl. And so on. These are actual main characters with distinct personalities and voices just as their male counterparts. But I'm not telling you how to play the game because I like playing them as such but don't expect people to not get pissed off because majority like the idea of their main characters to came equipped with a dick.
And no matter how Mass Effect advertise itself, my Shepard is the first human Spectre... not a spray-tanned first male supermodel from the 90s.
I don't see much point in bothering to include a choice for Shepard's gender when they are properly distancing themselves from Shepard. Shepard can be referred to as "Shepard" with pronouns "they."
I hope and agree.If they leave the MW during ME3, they obviously knows who Shepard is. Acting like Shepard doesn't exist would be weird in that case.
Shepard will be referenced by the name and not the gender, just like i'm doing right now.
You know, what they could do is have Shepard referred to as both genders. And what I mean by that is, Shepard's gender would be reflected by the player characters gender. So, if Ryder (aka the player) was playing a female/male, Shepard would be referred to as female/male in Andromeda.
It's just an idea. Really, it's probably better that Bioware just leave it as neutral as possible.
I prefer the way someone sort of mentioned earlier in the thread, where if they refer to them, it's as "the Shepard".
Though it does make me laugh imagining the six million page thread that would result if they actually left a "he" in there instead. Hoo boy.
I prefer the way someone sort of mentioned earlier in the thread, where if they refer to them, it's as "the Shepard".
Though it does make me laugh imagining the six million page thread that would result if they actually left a "he" in there instead. Hoo boy.
No no no no no
"The Shepard" is the crown turd in an ocean of sewage.
That stupid Buzz Aldrin easter egg somehow managed to be the most insultingly crappy part of ME3. If the endings and everything else hadn't done all the heavy lifting, it would have been enough to leave a stain the whole friggin' series by itself.
Gender neutral language will only work in the English version of the game. As soon as you say "Shepard was [any adjective or noun]", you have to choose a gender for most European languages and that's just one of many ways in which you cannot avoid being gender-specific. Unless they want to give their translators the biggest migraine ever, they will probably either not mention Shepard at all or give you a quick way to confirm his or her gender such as the Miranda shuttle convo about the human councillor.
Just make Shep non binary. Don't have to pick a specific gender and this option is right up BioWare's street anyway. They can have an NPC passive aggressively lecture the player for getting Shep's personal pronouns wrong (Xi, Xir and Xer for those wondering).
I really hope you're joking. If not...then I have no words...
Gender neutral language will only work in the English version of the game. As soon as you say "Shepard was [any adjective or noun]", you have to choose a gender for most European languages and that's just one of many ways in which you cannot avoid being gender-specific. Unless they want to give their translators the biggest migraine ever, they will probably either not mention Shepard at all or give you a quick way to confirm his or her gender such as the Miranda shuttle convo about the human councillor.
Even in English, gender neutral doesn't really work. The way to get around this is to simple refer to Shepard as "Commander Shepard" or "The Shepard". No references to being a soldier or being a specific class or being a whatever. Just be purposely vague about it.
Yeah.It's not going to be far enough out to be calling them "the Shepard".
And I actually appreciate what the Stargazer scene sets out to accomplish by finding a commonality between all the end-states.
Gender neutral language will only work in the English version of the game. As soon as you say "Shepard was [any adjective or noun]", you have to choose a gender for most European languages and that's just one of many ways in which you cannot avoid being gender-specific. Unless they want to give their translators the biggest migraine ever, they will probably either not mention Shepard at all or give you a quick way to confirm his or her gender such as the Miranda shuttle convo about the human councillor.
Huh, I didn't know some languages are even harder with genders than English. There wouldn't be any problems in my country's language cause pronouns are gender neutral always. Though it's not like ME will get dubbed/subbed here so no problems.
I don't think it should be such big issue for translators. Probably they come up with something that works in their country's language. It's not like translating is job without migraines anyways, they are probably used to it already ^^;
I rather they not reference the original trilogy at all but whatever.
It'll reference Shep by "The Dude" and only during major events. "There was a major attack by machine species on the Citadel and the Dude saved it."
I would prefer it if Shepard was canonized as being female. Hale was always superior to Meer anyways.
I would prefer it if Shepard was canonized as being female. Hale was always superior to Meer anyways.
Not really.
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