I agree to disagree. Both were great. I like Mark Meer. Jennifer Hale is a great voice actor and her voice is amazing but she sounded to me a little gruff for my taste. That's just like your opinion. For male Ryder though I prefer a deeper voice like the American inquistor. For fem well...... Who knows who the voice actor is.I would prefer it if Shepard was canonized as being female. Hale was always superior to Meer in many ways.
Reference to Shepard's gender in ME:A
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#51
Posté 18 juin 2016 - 12:13
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#52
Posté 18 juin 2016 - 12:13
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Not really.
Yes really. Meer was always extremely monotone and flat. Hale on the other hand was actually able to deliver some emotion, making FemShep, the only Shepard worth playing.
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#53
Posté 18 juin 2016 - 12:16
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I would prefer it if Shepard was canonized as being female. Hale was always superior to Meer anyways.
Lol nope.
#54
Posté 18 juin 2016 - 12:22
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some would say the same about fem. Some would say she sounds like a 40 year old chain smoker. I really don't care. Fem Ryder sounds good.Yes really. Meer was always extremely monotone and flat. Hale on the other hand was actually able to deliver some emotion, making FemShep, the only Shepard worth playing.
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Posté 18 juin 2016 - 12:25
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Yes really. Meer was always extremely monotone and flat. Hale on the other hand was actually able to deliver some emotion, making FemShep, the only Shepard worth playing.
Not really.
#56
Posté 18 juin 2016 - 12:28
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I'm okay with the Keep-type option, as long as either:
A.) Every single one of my choices is counted
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B.) The choice doesn't come up at all.
No exceptions. I do not want a rehash of the decisions in ME3 where I'm Liara's bestie and I care more about the destruction of Thessia than anything else, blaming myself instead of the asari. Genesis was okay with this, but they ignored a lot of my choices like saving Kirrahe on Virmire. That was a deal-breaker for me. A new trilogy might handle this better, since a lot of minor stuff won't be counted, but still, do it thoroughly.
#57
Posté 18 juin 2016 - 12:30
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where is this "The Shepard" coming from? I can understand "The Commander." but not "The Shepard."
i'm almost certain that they've written the script with gender ambiguity in mind where Shepard is concerned.
#58
Posté 18 juin 2016 - 12:34
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Yes really. Meer was always extremely monotone and flat. Hale on the other hand was actually able to deliver some emotion, making FemShep, the only Shepard worth playing.
well...i only found out this after i played male shep first and femshep second.
the VA has a clear distinction between them. Hale is miles better. but I would never go so far as to say the "only" shep worth playing. one of the things that may also be considered when discussing the playthrough differences between male and female are the love interests.
and because of that, no one gender is better than the other.
#59
Posté 18 juin 2016 - 12:37
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Yes really. Meer was always extremely monotone and flat. Hale on the other hand was actually able to deliver some emotion, making FemShep, the only Shepard worth playing.
Are you serious? FemShep's voice always sounded vaguely pissed off, no matter what she was doing. Even in romance with Thane, she sounded like she was two steps away from punching someone.
For someone who claims to love diversity, you sure are hostile to someone who has a differing view than your own.
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Posté 18 juin 2016 - 12:45
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Or, or, or - since it's been hundreds of years, maybe everyone now thinks Shepard was a Geth or a renegade Reaper. Way more badass. You know how legends evolve, it'd be perfect.
#61
Posté 18 juin 2016 - 12:54
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I don't think the mention of a single person is that momentous.
Would it be that bad to just not mention this Shepard character?
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Posté 18 juin 2016 - 12:56
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Just The Shepard? Let's just forget he/she was commander Shepard. It just the Shepard. Even if it's been a super long they wouldn't forget the full title. Go to a museum or memorial stargazer and kid.
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Posté 18 juin 2016 - 12:58
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Just The Shepard? Let's just forget he/she was commander Shepard. It just the Shepard. Even if it's been a super long they wouldn't forget the full title. Go to a museum or memorial stargazer and kid.
Brilliant!
What if we only refer to them as the Shepard, and we take that stargazer scene from before and make it part of the prologue?
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Posté 18 juin 2016 - 12:58
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No. Why?Brilliant!
What if we only refer to them as the Shepard, and we take that stargazer scene from before and make it part of the prologue?
#65
Posté 18 juin 2016 - 12:59
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@Doc It is good to see you 
I'm sorry but...no, no no. That isn't any better than some folks that are convinced that Sheploo was canon. There is no canon gender as it should be. There's just Commander Shepard and will probably be referred to as such when s/he is mentioned. I doubt Shep will be mentioned very much at all, so this is a non issue for me.
I'm sorry but...no, no no. That isn't any better than some folks that are convinced that Sheploo was canon. There is no canon gender as it should be. There's just Commander Shepard and will probably be referred to as such when s/he is mentioned. I doubt Shep will be mentioned very much at all, so this is a non issue for me.
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Posté 18 juin 2016 - 01:00
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No. Why?
Because it was a masterpiece scene and then we can say that fans already got a sneak peak of the next game.
If anything, it was brilliant foreshadowing, unparalleled in fiction.
#67
Posté 18 juin 2016 - 01:02
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some would say the same about fem. Some would say she sounds like a 40 year old chain smoker. I really don't care. Fem Ryder sounds good.
It's really not popular around these parts, but I feel the same way about FemShep as a lot of people do the male version. I guess it just could've been Hale overkill, but she was just kind of ..there.
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Posté 18 juin 2016 - 01:02
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Are you serious? FemShep's voice always sounded vaguely pissed off, no matter what she was doing. Even in romance with Thane, she sounded like she was two steps away from punching someone.
For someone who claims to love diversity, you sure are hostile to someone who has a differing view than your own.
You're wrong. Fem Shepard was legendary.
#69
Posté 18 juin 2016 - 01:08
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Are you serious? FemShep's voice always sounded vaguely pissed off, no matter what she was doing. Even in romance with Thane, she sounded like she was two steps away from punching someone.
For someone who claims to love diversity, you sure are hostile to someone who has a differing view than your own.
Two things ruined FemShep for me in ME3. The first was the inability to recreate my character, thanks to the serious lightening of the skin tones and straightening of the "Afro" hair texture. The second was Hale's uneven VA work.
In ME3, Hale hissed and whispered nearly every other line. There were lines that she practically whispered, that Meers delivered in a commanding shout. Totally bizarre. She no longer sounded at all believable as a marine, in my opinion. She was also uncomfortably flirtatious in her delivery of many lines of dialogue. It ruined the character for me. She had some lines here and there that were well done, but in general she was not very good in ME3.
Meers, on the other hand, got progressively better in each game, and absolutely killed it in ME3. The most important thing is that he was absolutely believable as a "cool under pressure", "in command of the situation" marine Commander. He never fell into "whisper acting" or over-acting scenes. I felt like he nailed ME3 perfectly.
Whereas Hale was clearly superior in ME1, Meers was clearly superior in ME3.
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Posté 18 juin 2016 - 01:20
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Two things ruined FemShep for me in ME3. The first was the inability to recreate my character, thanks to the serious lightening of the skin tones and straightening of the "Afro" hair texture. The second was Hale's uneven VA work.
In ME3, Hale hissed and whispered nearly every other line. There were lines that she practically whispered, that Meers delivered in a commanding shout. Totally bizarre. She no longer sounded at all believable as a marine, in my opinion. She was also uncomfortably flirtatious in her delivery of many lines of dialogue. It ruined the character for me. She had some lines here and there that were well done, but in general she was not very good in ME3.
Meers, on the other hand, got progressively better in each game, and absolutely killed it in ME3. The most important thing is that he was absolutely believable as a "cool under pressure", "in command of the situation" marine Commander. He never fell into "whisper acting" or over-acting scenes. I felt like he nailed ME3 perfectly.
Whereas Hale was clearly superior in ME1, Meers was clearly superior in ME3.
In 3, the only scene of hers I really liked was talking to Kaidan in the hospital (of course, I only did her with Kaidan romanced, so maybe it's different if you don't). The other scenes, yeah, I can see where you're coming from. I agree, Hale was better in ME1, but I don't think it was because she was very good, I just thought Meer was very flat and monotone.
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Posté 18 juin 2016 - 01:40
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I don't think you fully understand it's meaning. It was in the MW galaxy a long time after ME3. Apparently long enough to forget what to call shep.Because it was a masterpiece scene and then we can say that fans already got a sneak peak of the next game.
If anything, it was brilliant foreshadowing, unparalleled in fiction.
