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[Sakiboj]

Hi, as title says, what is best party for evil playthrough? Story wise I mean

[Taki17]

Can you even be truly evil in this game? It very rarely even lets you be the tenth of a jerk you could be in every previous BW game.

[Sakiboj]

Too bad, havent played it in "evil" style so I reckon to do it in hot summer days. Havent tought that you are so much limited if you choose to be jerk.

[German Soldier]

What does "evil" mean?

[Taki17]

The last truly evil party member in any BW game that I remember was most likely HK-47 from KotOR. I mean its hard to argue with this one, as he took joy in maim, torture and murder.

 

Except from HK, any party member in later games could not be considered evil, just maybe some kind of jerk at best, though that is also a far fetched definition for most of them. I guess Zaeed and Jack were kind of d!cks to people sometimes in ME2, as was Javik in some cases in ME3. If temporary squadmates count, I guess we could count in Aria too from Omega DLC.

 

From Dragon Age, the somewhat-jerk squad includes Morrigan, Shale, Velanna, Anders, Fenris, Isabela. But again, other than HK, these characters could be categorized more as antiheroes than evil people.

[Sakiboj]

What does "evil" mean?

You know, when you do some bad thing or kill someone without reason and your party members approve that action.

[nightscrawl]

I don't think there are any party members that will approve of evil actions, or even of being a jerk to people. There are some things that are highly subjective in terms of jerkiness that get you approval or disapproval.

 

For example, in the Exalted Plains, with the Dalish you can do a quest to find this young woman's brother. You eventually do find him and discover that he's been dabbling in blood magic. When you report back to her you have the opportunity to tell her exactly what happened, or you can be vague. Varric disapproves of being completely honest because of his personal views on family and so forth; her brother is dead, why dwell on his mistake? But you can look at it from a different RP perspective. I think Dorian might disapprove (I'm not entirely certain) of the vague path, since that is glossing over the foolishness of using blood magic and conforms to his worldview.

 

Many of the follower interactions are like that.

[Xilizhra]

Well, Vivienne's evil, so bring her everywhere. Cassandra's often pretty tolerant of evil provided that it's being done in the name of law and order, and she supports the most evil Orlesian throne candidate, so she'd be second. For the third companion... that's trickier. Maybe Varric, who's too mellow to care about much. Sera and Iron Bull sometimes support evil, but it's rarer.

[veeia]

There's really no way to be evil, its pretty subjective, so you can do a PT that might go against your values but it still comes from a righteous perspective.

 

My "darkest" PT is a character who is very controlling, quick to execute or confine people, and takes what he wants and doesn't have much time for people's feelings. But it's really all justified by the game. Like he conscripted the mages, exiled the Wardens, executed/jailed all the people he judged, took the well for himself, let Celene die, and was short with his companions and didn't always take their preferences in mind when doing their quests, but all it really gave me was a pro-templar/security character who didn't want to take chances on people when the world was ending and believed he had the skills to do it his own way--which he did. I wouldn't call that evil, just doesn't align with how I see things.

 

So for me in that PT, Cass Vivienne and Sera were the best, because their goals aligned with mine. But if you already leaned towards that kind of character because that's how you see the situation, a darker group for you might be Solas, Cole, and Blackwall, since they favor freedom + magic.

[Captain Wiseass]

You know, when you do some bad thing or kill someone without reason and your party members approve that action.

Yeah, that doesn't really happen in Inquisition.

[Sakiboj]

What happens if Varric kept red lyrium in keep? 

[Captain Wiseass]

He puts it in a vault and has some alchemists studying it.

[Sakiboj]

So it has no impact on his behavior or story?

[Dai Grepher]

If you do evil things in front of good people, it's even more evil. Mu hu haw haw haw haw haaa.

Make everyone hate you.

Also, be a noble so you can claim Sharnia for your house.

Let Celene die, then let Briala control Gaspard.

Save the Wardens and then kill them all on the Chore Table.

Let the Chargers die, then let Denerim get fire bombed.

Release Hakkon but don't slay him. Don't help the Legion of the Dead beat the Darkspawn.

Put evil Leliana on the Sunburst Throne, and say you're giving the Inquisition over to her.

Make a deal with Imshael.

Just be creative with it. I'm sure there are plenty of evil options. And take the party members who will be most upset by what you do.

[Lulupab]

The usage of the world "evil" is outright laughable in this thread. There are very few actual evil options in the game, like siding with Imshael. For example Leliana is not evil, neither is Briala.

[Qun00]

Vivienne already is evil enough on her own. You don't need three party members.

[Lulupab]

Vivienne is just selfish, very selfish.

[German Soldier]

You know, when you do some bad thing or kill someone without reason and your party members approve that action.

Ah by evil you mean insane now i understood.

In DAI characters like this don't exist they were present however in DAO.

[The Ascendant]

Evil is such a harsh word. I prefer, morally flexible or ambiguous personally.

[Qun00]

Evil is such a harsh word. I prefer, morally flexible or ambiguous personally.

Like a snake is a grumpy worm.

[German Soldier]

Evil is such a harsh word. I prefer, morally flexible or ambiguous personally.

By evil the OP meant insane people who do harm or want to cause harm for no reason or for selfish and often malicious gains,as i said those Npc does not exist in DAI but they were present in DAO and DA2.

[PapaCharlie9]

The best party for evil is solo. And as others have said, good luck trying to do a truly evil run, as you might in Fallout 3 as, say, a slaver.

Unless you are going for a maximum disapproval run? That's different from evil, you can do some pretty good things and get max disapproval from some NPCs.

[phoray]

If you do evil things in front of good people, it's even more evil. Mu hu haw haw haw haw haaa.

Make everyone hate you.

Also, be a noble so you can claim Sharnia for your house.

Let Celene die, then let Briala control Gaspard.

Save the Wardens and then kill them all on the Chore Table.

Let the Chargers die, then let Denerim get fire bombed.

Release Hakkon but don't slay him. Don't help the Legion of the Dead beat the Darkspawn.

Put evil Leliana on the Sunburst Throne, and say you're giving the Inquisition over to her.

Make a deal with Imshael.

Just be creative with it. I'm sure there are plenty of evil options. And take the party members who will be most upset by what you do.

 

This.

 

The best party for evil is solo. And as others have said, good luck trying to do a truly evil run, as you might in Fallout 3 as, say, a slaver.

Unless you are going for a maximum disapproval run? That's different from evil, you can do some pretty good things and get max disapproval from some NPCs.

 

I've seen an "Evil" Let's play of DAI.  People leave because you suck, don't join up in the first place (or get told to leave), and Cass gets drunk.

 

You could also execute/imprison or something that that NPC would find horribly objectionable- to everyone available for judgement.

 

There are also some optional "Kill on the spot" situations. That Assassin Guild leader after Jose and Florianne are two I can think of right now.

 

It's hard to be evil in a game that drags you into hero-dom even if your chracter is actively complaining about it the whole way.

 

I'm about to play an Evil Hawke in DA2, and I think I have far more leeway to be that way as the Anti Hero that Hawke represents.

[Daerog]

The last truly evil party member in any BW game that I remember was most likely HK-47 from KotOR. I mean its hard to argue with this one, as he took joy in maim, torture and murder.

Except from HK, any party member in later games could not be considered evil, just maybe some kind of jerk at best, though that is also a far fetched definition for most of them. I guess Zaeed and Jack were kind of d!cks to people sometimes in ME2, as was Javik in some cases in ME3. If temporary squadmates count, I guess we could count in Aria too from Omega DLC.

From Dragon Age, the somewhat-jerk squad includes Morrigan, Shale, Velanna, Anders, Fenris, Isabela. But again, other than HK, these characters could be categorized more as antiheroes than evil people.

Don't forget Jade Empire.

You can help a demon take full control of a child and just team up with it as you take the power of the Water Dragon to be a tyrannical emperor.

JE was after KotOR, and was probably the last BW game where you could go evil and not be considered a hero.

The afterlife is getting messed up? Pfft, don't care, I'll take a god's power to rule the Empire and have power over the wandering spirits that'll devolve to demons or whatever.

Edit: Could take Solas into your party, he's the only one closest to a villain, but he'll act as if he has the moral high ground.

[Dean_the_Young]

Solas, planner of genocide.

 

Iron Bull, proud agent of soul-crushing totalitarianism (pre-Tal-Vashoth).

 

Sera, casual criminal, occasional murderer, and grossly irresponsible.