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[BJ2727]

The folks at Bioware have told us that the main character and her squad are well trained, but unseasoned, and that the story of MEA will be unaffected by the events at the end of ME3. They also mentioned a potentially younger cast.

I think the human colonists are the students from Grissom Academy.

By the time Shepard arrived at Grissom Academy in ME3, there were only about 20 people left; advanced biotic students, Kahlee Sanders, and Jack.

The other 8,600 students from Grissom Academy were evacuated, but we don't know where.

These are the best and brightest young humans of the time, aged from early teens to early 20's. All of them old enough to function independently, many of them too young and inexperienced to fight the Reapers.

Some of the oldest students could be from the N7 program, and leading the expedition.

It would leave humanity's best and brightest with a shot at surviving the Reaper threat and starting over, and leave them in a vulnerable, precarious position that could make for a great deal of drama.

What do you guys think?

[Arcian]

The students at Grissom Academy partakes in the Battle for Earth, so no.

[BJ2727]

The students at Grissom Academy partakes in the Battle for Earth, so no.

The 20 students Shepard rescues with Jack, sure. What about the other 8600? All but a handful of Grissom Academy students were evacuated before Shepard arrived. And we don't know where they went.

[DarthLaxian]

The students at Grissom Academy partakes in the Battle for Earth, so no.

 

Only those left behind (the ones who couldn't easily leave), like the "biotic artillery" guys (Note: I'd love to have them along - particularly the girl who mocked Jack damned, she's COOL!)

[Arcian]

The 20 students Shepard rescues with Jack, sure. What about the other 8600?

They were evacuated AFTER the Reaper War began (i.e after the Arks left for Andromeda), so they're probably involved in the war effort as well.

[BJ2727]

They were evacuated AFTER the Reaper War began (i.e after the Arks left for Andromeda), so they're probably involved in the war effort as well.

We know the arc ships left before the ME3 ending. We don't know if they left before the ME3 beginning. It could be they started prepping the plan after ME1, and sent everyone off when the Reapers arrived.

[DarthLaxian]

Indeed, we do not know WHEN exactly those Arks are leaving (could be directly after Arcturus was destroyed or just before Shepard and the galactic fleet depart for the final fight (which is way more logical: Work on your alternative plan as long as possible, locate the best people, stuff even more equipment etc. into the Arks and only send them off before you engage the enemy and try to force a victory!))

 

greets LAX

ps: The fleet attacking would also be a DAMNED GOOD DIVERSION for the Arks leaving (the Reapers are massing a huge force to counter your, too so slipping past the remaining few Reapers would be way easier!)

[Arcian]

We know the arc ships left before the ME3 ending. We don't know if they left before the ME3 beginning. It could be they started prepping the plan after ME1, and sent everyone off when the Reapers arrived.

Why would they waste precious time and energy leaving the colonists floating around until the Reapers attack? Keeping people in stasis is very costly as Javik can attest, and they have no idea when the Reapers are coming. Could be 6 months, could be a year, could be 10 years. Are they just going to keep throwing away money and resources keeping those Arks maintained and its cargo frozen? Not to mention the risk of the Arks being detected and destroyed by the Reapers if they leave just as the war begins.

 

The sensible thing would be to load them up and send them off straight away to minimize the risk and waste of resources. And since we see them load up the Arks when the Earth isn't set ablaze from Reaper orbital bombardment, the only real conclusion is that they left before the events of ME3, making it impossible for the Grissom Academy students to be on board.

[BJ2727]

Why would they waste precious time and energy leaving the colonists floating around until the Reapers attack? Keeping people in stasis is very costly as Javik can attest, and they have no idea when the Reapers are coming. Could be 6 months, could be a year, could be 10 years. Are they just going to keep throwing away money and resources keeping those Arks maintained and its cargo frozen? Not to mention the risk of the Arks being detected and destroyed by the Reapers if they leave just as the war begins.

 

The sensible thing would be to load them up and send them off straight away to minimize the risk and waste of resources. And since we see them load up the Arks when the Earth isn't set ablaze from Reaper orbital bombardment, the only real conclusion is that they left before the events of ME3, making it impossible for the Grissom Academy students to be on board.

You make several assumptions that I don't buy.

1. You assume that the planet you're looking at is earth.
2. You assume that the planet you're looking at is in the milky way galaxy.
3. You assume that the decision to leave when they did wasn't forced upon them by the arrival of the Reapers.

If that planet was earth, how did they keep the evacuation and those giant ships in the sky a secret? If one civilian with a telescope found out about it and was later indoctrinated... that's the end of that.

We don't know if what we are seeing is the final moments before they embark on their journey to andromeda, or something else.
And your last assumption is the most egregious. Nobody expected the Reapers to arrive and attack as quickly as they did. Everyone thought they had more time.

[Arcian]

You make several assumptions that I don't buy.

1. You assume that the planet you're looking at is earth.

You can literally see Chicago, Long Island and the great lakes on the surface. Earth is the only planet in the universe with those features.
 

2. You assume that the planet you're looking at is in the milky way galaxy.

Yes, Earth is in the Milky Way. This is a well-known fact.
 

3. You assume that the decision to leave when they did wasn't forced upon them by the arrival of the Reapers.

You're assuming they didn't leave before ME3 because that's the only way your Grissom Academy theory can work.
 

If that planet was earth, how did they keep the evacuation and those giant ships in the sky a secret? If one civilian with a telescope found out about it and was later indoctrinated... that's the end of that.

Congratulations, you have just realized what a sh!t idea the pre-ME3 Arks are.
 

We don't know if what we are seeing is the final moments before they embark on their journey to andromeda, or something else.
And your last assumption is the most egregious. Nobody expected the Reapers to arrive and attack as quickly as they did. Everyone thought they had more time.

Everyone thought the Reapers were invented by Saren. The reason the Reapers curbstomped the galaxy in the initial invasion was because they considered the Reapers a myth and didn't take any precautions to defend themselves against them in the event of an invasion. You can't be taken by surprise if you're expecting an attack, even though you don't know exactly when that attack is going to happen.

[Element Zero]

If you were to carefully plan a colonization expedition, some of these students may have been the type of people they'd have sent. They were young and gifted. If they were healthy, also, they may have qualified.

As Arcian pointed out, though, ME3 already pointed out where the vast majority of the Grissom students went. They were evacuated when the Reapers invaded. Maybe a very small number of students could've been selected for the Arks, prior to the events of ME3, and maybe we will meet a few. In general, though, their story was already told in ME3.

[BJ2727]

You can literally see Chicago, Long Island and the great lakes on the surface. Earth is the only planet in the universe with those features.
 

Yes, Earth is in the Milky Way. This is a well-known fact.
 

You're assuming they didn't leave before ME3 because that's the only way your Grissom Academy theory can work.
 

Congratulations, you have just realized what a sh!t idea the pre-ME3 Arks are.
 

Everyone thought the Reapers were invented by Saren. The reason the Reapers curbstomped the galaxy in the initial invasion was because they considered the Reapers a myth and didn't take any precautions to defend themselves against them in the event of an invasion. You can't be taken by surprise if you're expecting an attack, even though you don't know exactly when that attack is going to happen.

Unlike you, I'm open to the possibility that my theory is wrong. I don't assume that they left as the Reapers arrived, but I think it's possible. I just haven't seen anything from you that refutes that. I could be wrong about the Grissom Academy students as well, but once again, I haven't seen anything to refute it and in context of what we've heard, it makes some sense.

And I am literally looking at the planet right now and I don't see Chicago. I see a bunch of lights, clouds and shades of black and blue. Nothing I can actually identify as earth.

And you didn't address my point that it is possible that the arrival of the reapers forced the decision of the Arc ships to depart before they knew they were ready.
 

[BJ2727]

If you were to carefully plan a colonization expedition, some of these students may have been the type of people they'd have sent. They were young and gifted. If they were healthy, also, they may have qualified.

As Arcian pointed out, though, ME3 already pointed out where the vast majority of the Grissom students went. They were evacuated when the Reapers invaded. Maybe a very small number of students could've been selected for the Arks, prior to the events of ME3, and maybe we will meet a few. In general, though, their story was already told in ME3.

And that leaves my final point. Evacuated where? There were 8600 of them. Only a handful stayed with Jack and participated in the retaking of Earth. That said, you may ultimately be (and probably are) right. This is all speculation.

[capn233]

Nobody knows.  It isn't implausible so maybe some of them are from there.

[BJ2727]

Nobody knows.  It isn't implausible so maybe some of them are from there.

My theory is that the evacuees from Grissom Academy (aside from the handful with Jack who stay behind) are the human colonists. But I could be wrong.

[Kabooooom]

Unlike you, I'm open to the possibility that my theory is wrong. I don't assume that they left as the Reapers arrived, but I think it's possible. I just haven't seen anything from you that refutes that. I could be wrong about the Grissom Academy students as well, but once again, I haven't seen anything to refute it and in context of what we've heard, it makes some sense.

And I am literally looking at the planet right now and I don't see Chicago. I see a bunch of lights, clouds and shades of black and blue. Nothing I can actually identify as earth.

And you didn't address my point that it is possible that the arrival of the reapers forced the decision of the Arc ships to depart before they knew they were ready.

I'm sorry man, but you're not looking closely enough. He is correct. This is irrefutable proof that the planet in question is Earth.

https://abload.de/img/meausa5iqi1.png

So that isn't debatable anymore. Like at all. There's no question that's Earth. The only thing that is debatable to me is does that mean the Arks left pre-ME3 (which is most likely), or does that mean they weren't ready yet or for some other reason went into standby for much of the war like some of the Alliance fleet did (this is less likely)? We don't know at this time.

I do really like your hypothesis though and I kind of hope you're correct. It would be a clever tie in for humanities' Ark. If you were planning on your species surviving and repopulating, the best and brightest would be a fine choice.

[The Dystopian Hound]

No no nope no.

[BJ2727]

I'm sorry man, but you're not looking closely enough. He is correct. This is irrefutable proof that the planet in question is Earth.

https://abload.de/img/meausa5iqi1.png

So that isn't debatable anymore. Like at all. There's no question that's Earth. The only thing that is debatable to me is does that mean the Arks left pre-ME3 (which is most likely), or does that mean they weren't ready yet or for some other reason went into standby for much of the war like some of the Alliance fleet did (this is less likely)? We don't know at this time.

I do really like your hypothesis though and I kind of hope you're correct. It would be a clever tie in for humanities' Ark. If you were planning on your species surviving and repopulating, the best and brightest would be a fine choice.

Looks like you're right about earth. My hypothesis is how I would've written it though.

Oh well.

[Kabooooom]

Looks like you're right about earth. My hypothesis is how I would've written it though.

Oh well.

And besides, if I were a high schooler and someone told me that they wanted to send me on a mission to an unknown region of space where it would be my moral duty to **** my classmates in order to repopulate humanity, I would be like uhhh yeah, sign me up.

[Kierro Ren]

What if the Arks were made during the construction of the Crucible? I know it's been said "Before Mass Effect 3 events" but which? The endings, Grissom Academy SOS, Genophage cure, Palavin? Which? So maybe the Grissom Academy theory, isn't too far off. I know there's some students fighting but weren't some set to the Crucible too? Also (maybe jumping ahead of myself) what happened to Octavia? We don't know her surname, and didn't she have a ponytail? Maybe Octavia is the female protagonist. Just a thought.

[BJ2727]

What if the Arks were made during the construction of the Crucible? I know it's been said "Before Mass Effect 3 events" but which? The endings, Grissom Academy SOS, Genophage cure, Palavin? Which? So maybe the Grissom Academy theory, isn't too far off. I know there's some students fighting but weren't some set to the Crucible too? Also (maybe jumping ahead of myself) what happened to Octavia? We don't know her surname, and didn't she have a ponytail? Maybe Octavia is the female protagonist. Just a thought.

That would explain the multiracial aspect of the ark project. Why there's Krogan, Salarian, Asari... etc... But the shot of them shipping out from earth is still problematic to the theory.