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[General TSAR]

Good for you.

Good for the game as well.

 

CD Projekt is doing very well and I wish nothing but success for them.

[Darth_Atreyu]

Good for the game as well.

 

CD Projekt is doing very well and I wish nothing but success for them.

Do you hinge your happiness in life by the success of a corporation in Poland?

[General TSAR]

Do you hinge your happiness in life by the success of a corporation in Poland?

I like their games and I want them to keep being successful, it's that simple.

 

Also what does their location have anything to do with anything? They can be based in Pyongyang for all I care as long as they keep pumping out excellent games. 

[slimgrin]

Do you hinge your happiness in life by the success of a corporation in Poland?

 

Yes.

[Paul E Dangerously]

I like their games and I want them to keep being successful, it's that simple.

 

This. Plus, we need more companies who are doing (quality) RPGs. Things were really good in the late 90s/early 2000s, but then studios died off at an alarming rate.

[Lulupab]

Wait until the scent of money does its thing. Witcher 3 is the only game they made real money after excluding expenses.

 

Don't you remember the graphics? The showed very high graphics in trailers but on release the graphics were considerably lower than what was advertised. This is just the beginning.

[Lulupab]

This. Plus, we need more companies who are doing (quality) RPGs. Things were really good in the late 90s/early 2000s, but then studios died off at an alarming rate.

 

They died because their games no longer had big enough audiences. Most of them have released games via kickstarter since then. 

 

What I mean is "quality" is a VERY subjective word.

[Paul E Dangerously]

They died because their games no longer had big enough audiences. Most of them have released games via kickstarter since then. 

 

What I mean is "quality" is a VERY subjective word.

 

It's a bit more complicated than that. Look at Interplay - Fallout 3 was nearly done and Baldur's Gate 3 was well into development, but neither saw the light of day because Herve Caen put all his eggs into the crappy Dark Alliance knockoff games. They straight up die, the former BIS devs form Troika, put out a couple of games and then IT dies, and Obsidian forms, but just sort of ambles along and blames everything on their publishers. That's just one case.

 

There's a lot of reasons, one of which being that publishers/developers seem almost scared to release a large scale game without multiplayer. Even Bioware's jumped into it, even though DAO, ME1, and ME2 did just fine without it.

[The Elder King]

It's a bit more complicated than that. Look at Interplay - Fallout 3 was nearly done and Baldur's Gate 3 was well into development, but neither saw the light of day because Herve Caen put all his eggs into the crappy Dark Alliance knockoff games. They straight up die, the former BIS devs form Troika, put out a couple of games and then IT dies, and Obsidian forms, but just sort of ambles along and blames everything on their publishers. That's just one case.
 
There's a lot of reasons, one of which being that publishers/developers seem almost scared to release a large scale game without multiplayer. Even Bioware's jumped into it, even though DAO, ME1, and ME2 did just fine without it.

Bioware is part of EA. I don't know how much they decided to jump on and how much they were forced on it.

[Lulupab]

It's a bit more complicated than that. Look at Interplay - Fallout 3 was nearly done and Baldur's Gate 3 was well into development, but neither saw the light of day because Herve Caen put all his eggs into the crappy Dark Alliance knockoff games. They straight up die, the former BIS devs form Troika, put out a couple of games and then IT dies, and Obsidian forms, but just sort of ambles along and blames everything on their publishers. That's just one case.

 

There's a lot of reasons, one of which being that publishers/developers seem almost scared to release a large scale game without multiplayer. Even Bioware's jumped into it, even though DAO, ME1, and ME2 did just fine without it.

 

In some cases its more complicated, but it mostly stemmed from not having a big audience anymore. So yes it was a huge risk to release a large scale game in this genre. 

 

ME3 would have been fine without MP, although it actually turned out to be good. Same goes for DA:I, actually the MP was not as successful as ME3 and its almost insignificant to game's fame and sales.

 

ME is risky to begin with. It mixes science-fiction shooter with RPG. Given that shooter RPG itself is a very risky genre it was a bold move from Bioware and it succeeded. One can argue there is no better game in this genre than ME. I mean the only real contender is fallout, rest of the games in this genre died along with their companies, or went full shooter with minor RPG elements (Deus Ex is such game, it was pure shooter RPG, now its just shooter with many action elements such as stealth)

[Pasquale1234]

There's a lot of reasons, one of which being that publishers/developers seem almost scared to release a large scale game without multiplayer. Even Bioware's jumped into it, even though DAO, ME1, and ME2 did just fine without it.

That, and the fact that as technology and expectations have risen, AAA development costs have grown exponentially.

[Laughing_Man]

I'm trying to remember that scene. My general recollection was that there was a lot of playful banter and the whole scene was pitched more along the lines of Yennifer basically controlling Geralt. Not that this isn't also a bit of an issue with portrayals of powerful women - but my whole take away wasn't Geralt so much complaining about women as much as it was Yennifer wrapping him around her finger. Which mind you has its own issues, as I say, but I'm not sure it's a "bro" thing, because Geralt is very much the person at the bottom end of that power dynamic.

 

Why is this an "issue" exactly?

 

Yennefer is a powerful individual, and her nature is somewhat... shall we say manipulative and controlling, that said, she is not the only sorceress,

nor is she an embodiment of the female gender in general.

 

Triss's personality for example is rather different, she is more idealistic and much less cynical.

 

They are both mortals, and both have their own quirks and imperfections, demanding that women be portrayed only as literal angels that can do no wrong, is much more insulting to intelligence of female (or male) players.

[Paul E Dangerously]

In some cases its more complicated, but it mostly stemmed from not having a big audience anymore. So yes it was a huge risk to release a large scale game in this genre.

 

On the contrary, they went for even larger audiences. Take a look from the early to mid-late 2000s, and just look at how many publishers picked up fantasy or sci-fi licenses just so they could make an MMO out of it.

[Lulupab]

On the contrary, they went for even larger audiences. Take a look from the early to mid-late 2000s, and just look at how many publishers picked up fantasy or sci-fi licenses just so they could make an MMO out of it.

 

MMOs don't count though, otherwise you are right.

 

Single player shooter RPG with science-fiction is not a safe route for companies.

[Laughing_Man]

single player shooter RPG with science-fiction is not a safe route for companies.

 

Nothing is truly safe, and I disagree with the notion that this option is particularly dangerous.

 

Also, much depends on marketing and on the quality of the game.

[Lulupab]

Nothing is truly safe, and I disagree with the notion that this option is particularly dangerous.

 

Also, much depends on marketing and on the quality of the game.

 

How so? Mass effect has pretty much dominated this genre, remaining loyal to both shooter and RPG side. The only real contender is fallout.

 

I don't think any other genre is in this situation. I already elaborated on my previoys post.

[Laughing_Man]

How so? Mass effect has pretty much dominated this genre, remaining loyal to both shooter and RPG side. The only real contender is fallout.

 

I don't think any other genre is in this situation. I already elaborated on my previoys post.

 

I didn't claim that they were unsuccessful, just that no game is truly completely "safe". Sure some are safer than others, but still...

 

That said, I think that the Sci-Fi Action RPG genre is not even close to being saturated, and that more titles will become successful in the near future.

Deus Ex and Cyberpunk 2077 are both examples for high profile, highly anticipated titles from this genre.

[Cyberstrike nTo]

I'm sick of the hype for The Witcher 3 in general, I think its an over-hyped game by everyone (devs, critics and it's fans, most are super annoying). If CDPR ever wants me to play a game by them how about they make one that is fun to play. I have fun playing BioWare and Bethesda games, but when I played The Witcher 2 on Xbox 360, IMHO the controls sucked, the story failed to grasp me right at the start, and the PC was a character I never clicked and/or that I never gave a damn about, because he's so boring, and honestly I found the whole game boring as hell. It felt like a bad Dragon Age: Origins or The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion knock off. 

 

Every review I've read and seen about The Witcher 3 that makes me want to play it and to be blunt I feel better that I'm better off not playing it.

 

 

[Ascari]

 you play as some old, boring, white dude who can go around sleeping with young women, who are often prostitutes and are forced to sell themselves.

 

Ironic how the OP is the same person who made the casual sexual encounters thread
 

[Lulupab]

I didn't claim that they were unsuccessful, just that no game is truly completely "safe". Sure some are safer than others, but still...

 

That said, I think that the Sci-Fi Action RPG genre is not even close to being saturated, and that more titles will become successful in the near future.

Deus Ex and Cyberpunk 2077 are both examples for high profile, highly anticipated titles from this genre.

 

RPG side of deus ex has been pretty much butchered though, as for Cyberpunk it remains to be seen.

[Wissenschaft 2.0]

Yeah instead lets make everyone in the game bisexual or gay just like in DA2. How realistic!!

 

I support making every LI BI like DA2. If I want realism, I'll get that from my real life. I want convenience in a video game.

[Urizen]

Dis fred still goin´ ? Dis fred needz sum kittehs!

 

 

And nao me owt:

 

[PrinceofTime]

Do you hinge your happiness in life by the success of a corporation in Poland?

Hmm someone being happy that one of their favorite game companies are doing well and profiting from a legitimately great game. ****** shocker, must be a corporate shill smh.

 

Give me a break.

[SNascimento]

Given that the game is practically finished and in polishing mode, it's a bit late to worry about potential influences.

 

*reported practically finished.

Not enough that they could give a release date on the E3 trailer, or at least a time frame. 

 

[frylock23]

Wait! You are upset because a game developer created a somewhat culturally realistic medieval setting? You do realize that medieval Europe was hardly a hotbed of women's liberation up to 3rd wave feminist standards and modern day equivalent gay rights?

 

Geralt runs around behaving the way a man in that setting would, and if you have him taking advantage of every prostitute out there ... well, that's mostly your choice isn't it?

 

It is generally a mistake to judge a thing that exists in a different historical time period through the social context and mores of your own time.

 

That being said, I have a hard time thinking you have a whole lot to worry about here. You should be more worried about the Dragon Age franchise which is another quasi-medieval setting. This is a science fiction franchise. We are talking about cultures thousands of years in the future. If you see any cultures taking their cue from The Witcher, it might show up in the structure of an alien species we meet, but it's not like Ryder is suddenly going to be confronted with an Ark that operates like quasi-medieval Europe or something.