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[Mr.House]

 
Meh, Corypheus is just a means to an end. Samson and Calpernia are the interesting ones.
 

But in Witcher games they have taken the safe route of keeping the player out of the politics for the most part. Creating politics without player influence is a lot easier than player completely influencing it. Also as far as sales and ratings go, they are not even a rival for DAO. That's why I said its a fact. By same standards, TW3 and DA:I clearly are in the same league though.

Um Geralt could impact alot of things in TW2 by killing a ruler, where Anaise is sent, fate of Vergan ect. So yeah you had a big hand in the the outcome of the politics in 2. Also sales and ratings mean **** all, if they did then Skyrim and FO4 are the best rpgs and saying that will get you laughed at hard. There' is no facts here, if you like DAo more that's cool, but others can argue TW2 is better and using rating and sales is a cop out.

[The Hierophant]

I haven't seen anyone who likes both, so that's understandable. You either like Calpernia or Samson because they have completely different backgrounds and motives so its virtually impossible to connect with both. During your time here I'm sure you have met people who feel the opposite.

Calpernia's a million times better than Samson.

[LPPrince]

I've seen swirls in my soda that were more interesting than Samson.  And Calpernia, while good, doesn't hold a candle to the Baron.

 

Politics were definitely done better in TW2 than TW3 but oh my God the Baron and his quest line, so incredible. I would love for Bioware to do something half as good.

[Mr.House]

Spoiler

What do you think about the Unseen Elder? If there ever is a  sequel/spinoff think he might be an antagonist?

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I enjoyed the Unseen Elder and Syanna alot and I hope we seem ore of the Unseen elders in future games. I decided not to mention them because they are pretty big spoilers for B&W

[In Exile]

Custom characters with pre-existing backstories? I think thats one option. But I'd still want totally pre-established characters(Lara Croft, The Master Chief, Geralt of Rivia) and custom characters you build entirely yourself(The Dragonborn, The Hero of Albion, The Fateless One).

Custom characters you build yourself - using your examples - are just a waste to me. They don't have any chance to be any part of the world. The dragon born for example has no connection to Skyrim really - you can as easily pretend you're a shapeshifting alien as you can your chosen background. Like create-your-own party games, that's something I'd selfishly like to see a lot less off (and it seems even bethesda is moving that way given FO4).

[Shechinah]

We have to remember, the lead writer, David Gaider is gay himself. I do not know if that has anything to do with anything.

 

You just said we had to remember it so clearly you must have some thought as to why we have to remember it?
 

[Mr.House]

It was made back in the day when fewer people knew any better.

 

 

There's a balance to be struck. Both ME and DA2 did it well.

How about you stop being sexist and judge stuff on the quality instead of your own twisted view?

[LPPrince]

Time to start saving for that then. If we're lucky, Cyberpunk will be around by 2019 at the latest. I want them to take as much time and care as they need to make that game shine.

Sorry, this is getting off-topic. Carry on folks.

 

The trick is to swing it back around. Like for me, the cheapest would be getting Andromeda(if I even do) for my One. Or I could save up for a 4K capable TV, Project Scorpio, and then get Andromeda. Which probably wouldn't even look better with all that considering its being made now. Don't even know about Cyberpunk.

[DarkKnightHolmes]

Dragon Age or Witcher???

 

Doesn't really matter. Gameplay is boring in both games.

[Grieving Natashina]

They should really stop making games with male protanagists imo. I mean, what does that even gain us? There have been plenty of male protanagists. Its time for the men to step aside and let women take the reigns. Women have always been better lead characters anyways.

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I refuse to believe that's serious. Look, Samus in the Other M was a badly written character that darn near wrecked the franchise. Do you think that she was a well written character? It's Team Ninja we're talking about but still, she wasn't a very good character at all.

William Blazkowicz from the current version of the Wolfenstein games was one of my favorite protagonists in the last few years. Women can be crap characters, or great. Same thing with men.

[Lulupab]

Um Geralt could impact alot of things in TW2 by killing a ruler, where Anaise is sent, fate of Vergan ect. So yeah you had a big hand in the the outcome of the politics in 2. Also sales and ratings mean **** all, if they did then Skyrim and FO4 are the best rpgs and saying that will get you laughed at hard. There' is no facts here, if you like DAo more that's cool, but others can argue TW2 is better and using rating and sales is a cop out.

It doesn't change much though, kill all you want. You are not doing it for politics or power, its personal.

Skyrim and FO4 owe half of their success to mods, so I'm not going insult all the effort modders put on these games like you do. These games are in fact played a lot more than other RPGs due to amount of freedom you have in customizing your game. Freedom means a lot in a RPG. Good luck spending 200 hours with a single character in TW3 or DA:I. Many have done so in Bethesda games.

DAO is the same but without mods, there is just so much freedom in roleplaying your character, with all those extra backgrounds. It takes no brain at all to figure why it would sell more and be played more than witcher 1&2 where you relive the story of Geralt. Not to mention the better characters whom you get to interact with at will and choose them. Again not forced upon you. Ehem Triss, ehem Zoltan.

[LPPrince]

Custom characters you build yourself - using your examples - are just a waste to me. They don't have any chance to be any part of the world. The dragon born for example has no connection to Skyrim really - you can as easily pretend you're a shapeshifting alien as you can your chosen background. Like create-your-own party games, that's something I'd selfishly like to see a lot less off (and it seems even bethesda is moving that way given FO4).

 

I like them all.

 

Totally custom created characters- For the freedom to think of and create whatever I want

Custom characters with backstories- For the freedom to alter and chart the course of someone's experiences

Pre-established characters- For the opportunity to explore and understand someone's journey

 

So I want them all and prefer none of them to be phased out.

[Mr.House]

It doesn't change much though, kill all you want. You are not doing it for politics or power, its personal.

Skyrim and FO4 owe half of their success to mods, so I'm not going insult all the effort modders put on these games like you do. These games are in fact played a lot more than other RPGs due to amount of freedom you have in customizing your game. Freedom means a lot in a RPG. Good luck spending 200 hours with a single character in TW3 or DA:I. Many have done in Bethesda games.

DAO is the same but without mods, there is just so much freedom in roleplaying your character, with all those extra backgrounds. It takes no brain at all to figure why it would sell more and be played more than witcher 1&2 where you relive the story of Geralt.

I've played TW2 more then DAO, so no, not everyone plays DAO more.

[Steelcan]

It doesn't change much though, kill all you want. You are not doing it for politics or power, its personal.

Skyrim and FO4 owe half of their success to mods, so I'm not going insult all the effort modders put on these games like you do. These games are in fact played a lot more than other RPGs due to amount of freedom you have in customizing your game. Freedom means a lot in a RPG. Good luck spending 200 hours with a single character in TW3 or DA:I. Many have done so in Bethesda games.

DAO is the same but without mods, there is just so much freedom in roleplaying your character, with all those extra backgrounds. It takes no brain at all to figure why it would sell more and be played more than witcher 1&2 where you relive the story of Geralt.

People have been reliving the stories of predefinied characters for the better part of recorded history and likely well beyond that as well.

 

(also I can totally sink 200+ hrs into one TW3 playthrough, gotta get all those ?'s off the map)

[Grieving Natashina]

I like them all.

Totally custom created characters- For the freedom to think of and create whatever I want
Custom characters with backstories- For the freedom to alter and chart the course of someone's experiences
Pre-established characters- For the opportunity to explore and understand someone's journey

So I want them all and prefer none of them to be phased out.

You read my mind exactly. I don't have any more likes, but here. Have a dancing Dude.



@Shechinah with your comments about the TW3 feedback thred: Yeah, pretty much. I know it's a few bad apples that act that way, but it does get disheartening at times.

[LPPrince]

Good luck spending 200 hours with a single character in TW3 or DA:I. Many have done so in Bethesda games.

 

Side note, I definitely took over at least 100 hours to finish one character in DA:I, and I only played the first DLC. TW3, so many more hours, oh God. Way over 200, way the hell over 200. And in Skyrim, 400+ on my one character. So hey, there's my numbers.

[Lulupab]

People have been reliving the stories of predefinied characters for the better part of recorded history and likely well beyond that as well.
 
(also I can totally sink 200+ hrs into one TW3 playthrough, gotta get all those ?'s off the map)

Exactly! People never had this much freedom in their games, most of the older games are reliving.

Given that rushing main story is 50 hours or so, 100 hours is all you need.

[Mr.House]

I replay Placescape Torment every year despite it

 

1:Having a set character

2:having bad combat

 

Why do I replay it? Because it's a fantastic experience. Same with TW2 and I had more fun with TW3 and it's two expansions then I had in the longest time, only other recent games coming close being Bloodborne and dark souls 3.

[Seraphim24]

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I refuse to believe that's serious. Look, Samus in the Other M was a badly written character that darn near wrecked the franchise. Do you think that she was a well written character? It's Team Ninja we're talking about but still, she wasn't a very good character at all.

William Blazkowicz from the current version of the Wolfenstein games was one of my favorite protagonists in the last few years. Women can be crap characters, or great. Same thing with men.

 

I think it's incredible because it's serious, to be honest.

 

I liked Other M though..

[LPPrince]

You read my mind exactly. I don't have any more likes, but here. Have a dancing Dude.



@Shechinah Yeah, pretty much. I know it's a few bad apples that act that way, but it does get disheartening at times.

 

If you want to post something like that gif when you enjoyed someone's post but don't have likes to give, I lend you my face-

 

Spoiler

 

Already gets used on the BSN replacement people went to when they got fed up with this place, so there you go. hahaha

 

Forum needs more happies.

[Monk]

Ahh, the smell of nerd rage. Makes me weep a little.

[Lulupab]

Side note, I definitely took over at least 100 hours to finish one character in DA:I, and I only played the first DLC. TW3, so many more hours, oh God. Way over 200, way the hell over 200. And in Skyrim, 400+ on my one character. So hey, there's my numbers.

It depends a lot on how fast you play, you can stop and read everything but that doesn't really count. All companies give you knowledge of how many hours is their game.

Not to mention numbers were not my point, but the effect of freedom in games on length of play and evidently sales.

[Mr.House]

Exactly! People never had this much freedom in their games, most of the older games are reliving.

Given that rushing main story is 50 hours or so, 100 hours is all you need.

You do know there are still people who have not beat wild hunt and got it at launch right? Saying you can't do 200 hours is false, people have. The fact that people have put so much time into TW3 without mods like skyrim and fO4 and continue to do so says alot about the game it self.

[LPPrince]

Exactly! People never had this much freedom in their games, most of the older games are reliving.

Given that rushing main story is 50 hours or so, 100 hours is all you need.

 

I remember people being blown away when I said that ME2 started to take me around 100 hours to beat on my later playthroughs(with all DLCs).

[LPPrince]

You do know there are still people who have not beat wild hunt right? Saying you can't do 200 hours is false, people have. The fact that people have put so much time into TW3 without mods like skyrim and fO4 and continue to do so says alot about the game it self.

 

Gwent.