True. But I think this thread needed a Dancing Dude. We could all use a Dancing Dude sometimes.If you want to post something like that gif when you enjoyed someone's post but don't have likes to give, I lend you my face-
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Already gets used on the BSN replacement people went to when they got fed up with this place, so there you go. hahaha
Forum needs more happies.
It depends a lot on how fast you play, you can stop and read everything but that doesn't really count. All companies give you knowledge of how many hours is their game.
Not to mention numbers were not my point, but the effect of freedom in games on length of play and evidently sales.
Man I hate when games don't tell you how long your playthroughs are.
Gwent.
I've wasted so much time and crowns on gwent...
I've wasted so much time and crowns on gwent...
Wasted?
I've wasted so much time and crowns on gwent...
If there's ANYTHING that Bioware could learn from CD Projekt Red, its how to make a fun as hell card game.
Wasted?
My play time would be far lower, but gwent is like crack. It ropes you in and then you find out you have no money left and Geralt is in his small clothes.
You do know there are still people who have not beat wild hunt and got it at launch right? Saying you can't do 200 hours is false, people have. The fact that people have put so much time into TW3 without mods like skyrim and fO4 and continue to do so says alot about the game it self.
I did acknowledge this by giving half the credit to modders though, didn't I? Although I merely pointed it out to show you how much freedom affects playtime and sales even when its available on a mediocre game.
TW3 is a very good game, no one here denied that. But the thread title is rather offensive to both Bioware and fans. ME trilogy (not an individual game, all three combined) has dominated its own genre, there is simply no better series. Of course I mean Action-Shooter RPG and it has been loyal to both RPG and shooter style. Like the only contender is fallout series. ME does not need any influence from any game, its the game that influences other games.
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I refuse to believe that's serious. Look, Samus in the Other M was a badly written character that darn near wrecked the franchise. Do you think that she was a well written character? It's Team Ninja we're talking about but still, she wasn't a very good character at all.
William Blazkowicz from the current version of the Wolfenstein games was one of my favorite protagonists in the last few years. Women can be crap characters, or great. Same thing with men.
This. Though i do miss Parasite Eve, with PE2 being my favorite TB TPS.
I waited nearly ten years for a sequel until Toriyama came along, and savaged the franchise with 3rd Birthday. Why he's allowed to continue directing Square games afterwards is beyond me, but what i do know is that i don't want to see a PE reboot or sequel until he's gone.[/rantover]
I did acknowledge this by giving half the credit to modders though, didn't I? Although I merely pointed it out to show you how much freedom affects playtime and sales even when its available on a mediocre game.
TW3 is a very good game, no one here denied that. But the thread title is rather offensive to both Bioware and fans. ME trilogy (not an individual game, all three combined) has dominated its own genre, there is simply no better series. Of course I mean Action-Shooter RPG and it has been loyal to both RPG and shooter style. Like the only contender is fallout series. ME does not need any influence from any game, its the game that influences other games.
Stop fanboying. All devs can learn from others. Yes, that even includes CDP.
I did acknowledge this by giving half the credit to modders though, didn't I? Although I merely pointed it out to show you how much freedom affects playtime and sales even when its available on a mediocre game.
TW3 is a very good game, no one here denied that. But the thread title is rather offensive to both Bioware and fans. ME trilogy (not an individual game, all three combined) has dominated its own genre, there is simply no better series. Of course I mean Action-Shooter RPG and it has been loyal to both RPG and shooter style. Like the only contender is fallout series. ME does not need any influence from any game, its the game that influences other games.
Saying that ME needs no influence is just wrong, it can draw influence from outside the shooter RPG genre (whether that's even a separate genre from RPG is up for debate)
Just because its carved out its own little niche doesn't mean it can't learn from other games as well. For example it looks to Gears of War for gameplay a good bit.
My play time would be far lower, but gwent is like crack. It ropes you in and then you find out you have no money left and Geralt is in his small clothes.
Seriously
Truth be told, for my first playthrough i did not play Gwent.... like, at all. Then i finished the game, got depressed and started looking for stuff to do; long story short, when Blood and Wine came out the first thing i did was looking for Gwent
I did acknowledge this by giving half the credit to modders though, didn't I? Although I merely pointed it out to show you how much freedom affects playtime and sales even when its available on a mediocre game.
TW3 is a very good game, no one here denied that. But the thread title is rather offensive to both Bioware and fans. ME trilogy (not an individual game, all three combined) has dominated its own genre, there is simply no better series. Of course I mean Action-Shooter RPG and it has been loyal to both RPG and shooter style. Like the only contender is fallout series. ME does not need any influence from any game, its the game that influences other games.
Mass Effect definitely needs influences from other games after the reception of the last one.
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This isn't the unpopular opinion thread. My bad.
Doesn't matter.
Stop fanboying. All devs can learn from others. Yes, that even includes CDP.
Of course they *can learn, but many have used the word *should instead.
Of course they *can learn, but many have used the word *should instead.
Because they should.
Um Geralt could impact alot of things in TW2 by killing a ruler, where Anaise is sent, fate of Vergan ect. So yeah you had a big hand in the the outcome of the politics in 2. Also sales and ratings mean **** all, if they did then Skyrim and FO4 are the best rpgs and saying that will get you laughed at hard. There' is no facts here, if you like DAo more that's cool, but others can argue TW2 is better and using rating and sales is a cop out.
I don't know there a lot of people who love Skyrim and Fallout 4.
Mass Effect definitely needs influences from other games after the reception of the last one.
Which is BS. So you don't like the ending, bohoo. Everything else is good. Tuchanka and Rannoch are just so good. Every god damn decision you made is all around you dating back to ME1.
Mass effect multiplayer, which is probably the most successful MP in a game what was meant to be single player game, shows this. Because ME3MP is literally endless play of ME3 without the ending.
Because they should.
Name a game of same genre that should influence ME.
Mass Effect definitely needs influences from other games after the reception of the last one.
I don't know there a lot of people who love Skyrim and Fallout 4.
There's also alot of people who where disappointed or even outright hated Skyrim and FO4,. more so FO4 which is more polarizing then FO3.
Saying that ME needs no influence is just wrong, it can draw influence from outside the shooter RPG genre (whether that's even a separate genre from RPG is up for debate)
Just because its carved out its own little niche doesn't mean it can't learn from other games as well. For example it looks to Gears of War for gameplay a good bit.
Influence is optional. It can learn, but it doesn't have to when its the leading game in its own genre.
And shooter-RPG is indeed a separate genre. You can debate it if you like, but I didn't chart such things.
Which is BS. So you don't like the ending, bohoo. Everything else is good. Tuchanka and Rannoch are just so good. Every god damn decision you made is all around you dating back to ME1.
Mass effect multiplayer, which is probably the most successful MP in a game what was meant to be single player game, shows this. Because ME3MP is literally endless play of ME3 without the ending.
that doesn't mean they can't learn from other games's gameplay.
Also Rannoch was at best passable
that doesn't mean they can't learn from other games's gameplay.
Also Rannoch was at best passable
The structure of the mission was very good and well planned. Not everyone have to like it because maybe someone finds the Quarians dull, but you have to admit it if you are looking at it objectively.
Which is BS. So you don't like the ending, bohoo. Everything else is good. Tuchanka and Rannoch are just so good. Every god damn decision you made is all around you dating back to ME1.
Mass effect multiplayer, which is probably the most successful MP in a game what was meant to be single player game, shows this. Because ME3MP is literally endless play of ME3 without the ending.
There was plenty wrong with ME3 beyond the ending, that was just the 5 lb straw that broke the camel's back. They could learn from loads of franchises. Though I think a lot of the issues with it were a result of Bioware just doing things they shouldn't have done, like they had another option but chose not to take it, leaving us with...it. *scrunches face and frowns*
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