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[Lulupab]

TW2 and 3 have enough tumblr in it.

 

A gay man calls himself freak of nature in TW3, so no. You either don't use Tumblr or didn't understand the reference. TW3 is almost devoid of Tumblr.

[dreamgazer]

TW2 and 3 have enough tumblr in it.

 

Hear that, BioWare? Taking cues from Witcher 3 means taking some cues frorm Tumblr. Go for it!

 

[nfi42]

Or maybe because the books are not for this timeline or for polish teenagers.

 

Most of the Witcher stories are basically rewritten fairy tales. They're pulpy fantasy stories about a magic man who fucks a lot of hot women and fights a lot of things and doesn't give a f***. The style of the writer is dialogue fest, its outdated and simply horrible.

 

Example:

 

Witcher: "I am here to do X."

Generic character: "Then you must do Y! Now I will delve into a 2 page recounting of the backstory."

Similarly, adjectives and adverbs abound. The same phrasing is used over and over again (i.e. "he smiled nastily/ominously/ugly-ly").

 

Above is basically just a third of the way into The Last Wish. They're total schlock. The game gets most of the credit here, the books were just the start of it. The game has changed a lot of the lore anyway.

 

What language are you reading in?

 

I read the books post TW3 in English and didn't think them to be top shelf literature, mostly entertaining though.  I just presumed they were poor translations.

[dreamgazer]

Does Tumblr have stock in EA? Because then I'm really worried.

 

That's getting about as played out as "RGB", sir. 

[vbibbi]

It's funny. Bioware releases DLC with no real ties to the main story - people complain they're milking the franchise by releasing expensive side content that should be in the game. So Bioware releases post ending DLC that is very much tied with the main story - so people complain that they're milking the franchise by releasing expensive critical path content that should be in the game.
There really is no winning when it comes to DLC. It all just comes down to whether you have warm feelings about the developer or not.

I know it's the trend of modern games and Bio has to keep up or be left behind, but I'm not a fan of the DLC model at all. I know they help offset the cost of designing games but I don't like the fact that companies now intentionally create content to be sold in addition to the base game. I'm probably impossibly naive in this, but I wish games just had expansions released like they used to.

  

Witcher books were dead and unsuccessful before the game made them popular. Have you seen the blatant failures called movies made based on the books? 
 
I have read most of the famous books, lost god cliche is not overused on them. I'm sure there are many books with such characters but they are not relevant enough for most people to read so many don't know about them, unlike the vampires. It doesn't matter how many times some lore has been used, but it matters how many times its has made a name for itself. For vast majority of people Solas is like 3rd time they have seen this cliche in opposed to Regis being 20+th vampire villain type.

You've read most of the famous books? Care to elaborate on that claim? Also, where did you get the information that the books aren't popular? Because they haven't all been translated into English yet? It's my understanding that they are extremely popular in Poland and many other countries, having many translations.

  

It didn't have to answer a lot of questions.  Those questions could have lasted though the next game. 
 
In Exile is on the money. It's all bias.

Really? I found most of the issues in Trespasser relevant to wrapping up the story of DAI. the fate of the Inquisiton, the Anchor, the Inquisitor's knowledge of Solas' identity, the reveal of Solas' plan, those all resolved lingering threads from the base game or put a new spin on the game. If we had to wait for DA4 to answer any of those questions they wouldn't have nearly the impact or relevance as they do connected to DAI.

[Mr.House]

A gay man calls himself freak of nature in TW3, so no. You either don't use Tumblr or didn't understand the reference. TW3 is almost devoid of Tumblr.

He calls himself that because he has no reason not to believe that, homosexuality is not all rainbows and sunshine like Bioware tries to paint, not to mention Ciri is bi and she does not think she's a freak of nature.

[dreamgazer]

Really? I found most of the issues in Trespasser relevant to wrapping up the story of DAI. the fate of the Inquisiton, the Anchor, the Inquisitor's knowledge of Solas' identity, the reveal of Solas' plan, those all resolved lingering threads from the base game or put a new spin on the game. If we had to wait for DA4 to answer any of those questions they wouldn't have nearly the impact or relevance as they do connected to DAI.

 

For a long time, it was assumed these elements would either be addressed in DA4, such as Solas, or not at all. 

[Mr.House]

Hear that, BioWare? Taking cues from Witcher 3 means taking some cues frorm Tumblr. Go for it!

 

Everything is better with tumblr.

[Lulupab]

What language are you reading in?
 
I read the books post TW3 in English and didn't think them to be top shelf literature, mostly entertaining though.  I just presumed they were poor translations.

I never fully read the books after realizing I'm not enjoying them, but in general I care too much about writing style. But they were entertaining enough, I'll admit that.

I've read both the English and German translation, I think the German translation is better. Although neither German nor English is my native language so I can't give a certain answer. I think the books were mostly meant to be fun but the game planned a different direction.

[LPPrince]

He calls himself that because he has no reason not to believe that, homosexuality is not all rainbows and sunshine like Bioware tries to paint, not to mention Ciri is bi and she does not think she's a freak of nature.

 

 

It didn't help that he was caught having relations with his boss' son, he lost his job, got kicked out for it, and his lover, the boss' son, hung himself over the guilt/grief.

[In Exile]

A gay man calls himself freak of nature in TW3, so no. You either don't use Tumblr or didn't understand the reference. TW3 is almost devoid of Tumblr.

? What are you talking about?

[slimgrin]

Or maybe because the books are not for this timeline or for polish teenagers.

 

Most of the Witcher stories are basically rewritten fairy tales. They're pulpy fantasy stories about a magic man who fucks a lot of hot women and fights a lot of things and doesn't give a f***. The style of the writer is dialogue fest, its outdated and simply horrible.

 

Example:

 

Witcher: "I am here to do X."

Generic character: "Then you must do Y! Now I will delve into a 2 page recounting of the backstory."

Similarly, adjectives and adverbs abound. The same phrasing is used over and over again (i.e. "he smiled nastily/ominously/ugly-ly").

 

Above is basically just a third of the way into The Last Wish. They're total schlock. The game gets most of the credit here, the books were just the start of it. The game has changed a lot of the lore anyway.

 

Oh man please just stop. You are so wrong about the books. If you know nothing about them, please don't pretend to. 

[In Exile]

It didn't help that he was caught having relations with his boss' son, he lost his job, got kicked out for it, and his lover, the boss' son, hung himself over the guilt/grief.

Oh, that one. That's absolutely about how anti-LGBT prejudice leads to disasters and why prejudice is bad parable. It's a darker take, sure, but the moral is that prejudice leads to a person loathing themselves and disaster and tragedy for everyone. The story is basically homophobe persecutes son and lover, causes mass death and awful curse. This is totally "tumblr" as people use that term.

[Mr.House]

? What are you talking about?

The hunter in white orchard, when it was revealed he was having sex with the boss's son, he lost his job and was kicked out and the boss's son then hung himself. It makes perfect sense he would think he's a freak of nature after what just happen to him and a very realistic outcome.

[In Exile]

The hunter in white orchard, when it was revealed he was having sex with the boss's son, he lost his job and was kicked out and the boss's son then hung himself. It makes perfect sense he would think he's a freak of nature after what just happen to him and a very realistic outcome.

See above. That's as heavy handed as anything Bioware did, IMO. It's just a different tone, because CDPR tells cynical stories.

[Giantdeathrobot]

TW2 and 3 have enough tumblr in it.

 

Blood and Wine has more than Bioware ever had if you ask with, what with that one scene with a certain female fist fighter. I'm wondering why the usual SJW hate brigade doesn't talk about it, to be honest.

 

EDIT: @InExile: I think the CDPR situation is similar to Bethesda's; yes, in theory Bethesda the publisher and Bethesda Game Softworks are separate entities, but in practice they are so intertwined that they can safely be considered one and the same for most practical purposes. At least how I see it.

[LPPrince]

Oh, that one. That's absolutely about how anti-LGBT prejudice leads to disasters and why prejudice is bad parable. It's a darker take, sure, but the moral is that prejudice leads to a person loathing themselves and disaster and tragedy for everyone. The story is basically homophobe persecutes son and lover, causes mass death and awful curse. This is totally "tumblr" as people use that term.

 

 

Aye, you can't not feel bad for the man.

[Lulupab]

You've read most of the famous books? Care to elaborate on that claim? Also, where did you get the information that the books aren't popular? Because they haven't all been translated into English yet? It's my understanding that they are extremely popular in Poland and many other countries, having many translations.

 

I already elaborated why books were never popular due to their outdated writing style. Read my other posts, local popularity is not my concern when the book is solely written for a very small audience. Translating them into English without the game promoting it would be a financial suicide for whoever decided to translate them.

 

If you follow books like I do some books make a name for themselves among gamers, and of course I meant famous books related to gamers, not just all books. The only books I've read not related to games were Charles Dicken's

[Lulupab]

Oh man please just stop. You are so wrong about the books. If you know nothing about them, please don't pretend to. 

 

You didn't even deny what I said. Simply accept that's the books' writing style, then call me whatever you like.

[Mr.House]

Blood and Wine has more than Bioware ever had if you ask with, what with that one scene with a certain female fist fighter. I wondering why the usual SJW hate brigade doesn't talk about it, to be honest.

To be fair, women feeling insecure makes at least sense in the TW universe as woman are still looked down upon, not so much the tubmlr bs that happen in DAI that comes out of left field at best and feels lore breaking at worst.

 

Was it cringy? Yeah but I can at least semi tolerate it since it makes sense in Toussaint of all places.

[Lulupab]

He calls himself that because he has no reason not to believe that, homosexuality is not all rainbows and sunshine like Bioware tries to paint, not to mention Ciri is bi and she does not think she's a freak of nature.

 

That's completely true, but as I said devoid of Tumblr.

 

Lesbians and bi women do not count, they are mostly accepted unlike gay men.

[In Exile]

Blood and Wine has more than Bioware ever had if you ask with, what with that one scene with a certain female fist fighter. I wondering why the usual SJW hate brigade doesn't talk about it, to be honest.

There are lots of reasons. Part of it is that the audience totally misses the point and takes out a very weird moral from some of the stories - like the Bloody Baron quest line. The other part is that CDPR and TW3 hits the right superficial story beats - hot women, ostensibly racist and prejudicial setting - that they miss the actual moral story.

Geralt is the ultimate SJW for his setting. This is a guy who DIED an ignoble death trying to stop a progrom. Often his story is about how the "humans" (read: majority) are the "real" monsters.

[slimgrin]

Blood and Wine has more than Bioware ever had if you ask with, what with that one scene with a certain female fist fighter. I wondering why the usual SJW hate brigade doesn't talk about it, to be honest.

 

Because she was trying to call him out like a tumblerite would and Geralt was having none of it. But to be fair, that scenario was a pretty obvious attempt at inclusion. 

[Lulupab]

? What are you talking about?

 

People are talking about it in this page already, its the quest where you look for the Griffin. The hunter in the woods is gay and calls himself a freak of nature.

[In Exile]

People are talking about it in this page already, its the quest where you look for the Griffin. The hunter in the woods is gay and calls himself a freak of nature.

Yeah, you're wrong about that quest line. It's not about the gay man actually being a freak of nature. It's about how hatred and prejudice leads to death and disaster.