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[LPPrince]

A good example in TW would in fact be the outcome for B&W, you have many outcomes that range from happy if not bittersweet to outright tragic, and they are all well done with their own merits, no real favoring outside preferences. It makes replaying worth it. This was a problem Bioware ran into big time with ME as it went on longer and why I just can't replay the series anymore.

 

Thats one of the things that pissed me off about the ME3 endings though, there was no "happy" ending. Every ending was just a different flavor of the same suck.

 

Compare to base game Witcher 3 which did have a happy ending you could achieve, or Blood and Wine which had a happy ending you could achieve. In a game so dark, there's still light at the end of the tunnel if you play your Gwent cards right.

[SKAR]

Except for hair physics and romance scenes.

[Mr.House]

mmmmmmmmm gwent

[Mihura]

Thats one of the things that pissed me off about the ME3 endings though, there was no "happy" ending. Every ending was just a different flavor of the same suck.

 

Compare to base game Witcher 3 which did have a happy ending you could achieve, or Blood and Wine which had a happy ending you could achieve. In a game so dark, there's still light at the end of the tunnel if you play your Gwent cards right.

 

Yes I was surprised by that, especially in Blood and Wine. They have far better ending than ME 3 or DA:I in therms of happiness.

[LPPrince]

Yes I was surprised by that, especially in Blood and Wine. They have far better ending than ME 3 or DA:I in therms of happiness.

 

 

I actually don't remember Inquisition's ending all that well so I can't mention that too much. Dunno why.

[Mihura]

I actually don't remember Inquisition's ending all that well so I can't mention that too much. Dunno why.

 

You say goodbye to Solas.

[Mr.House]

Your lover chops off your hand isn't romance great?

[LPPrince]

Main game, I didn't play Trespasser remember?

[KaiserShep]

They were a small rogue black ops group, Cerberus was retconned and altered to become what they were in ME2, then given an over the top boost to their potential in ME3. Bioware easily could've created different groups to serve the same purposes.

 

 

To be fair, there wasn't really much to retcon. There was so little info there.

[The Hierophant]

With MEA i'd like to see Bioware expand on their utilisation of preexisting gameplay features. My favorite quest that showcases this in TW3 is The Warble of a Smitten Knight. Not only does it feature branching choices/consequences starting with Geralt's registration, there's the inclusion of an obstacle course for horse racing, the addition of an archery competition, and team deathmatch too. 

[Furisco]

-The Witcher 3 is a great game with strong characters from both genders.

 

-Gwent

 

-This is a very bad troll thread.

 

-The mods will only shut down or give warning points to cool people/threads.

 

-Troll threads and stupid things are allowed.

[10K]

 
-The mods will only shut down or give warning points to cool people/threads.
 

Yes! Not only this, but they love to give warning points to people whom quote a person who used profanity. They're horrible at their jobs, especially mod 10

[Shechinah]

-The mods will only shut down or give warning points to cool people/threads.

 

Did anyone actually try to report this thread? You can do that, you know, as long as you provide a reason for why it violates the Site Rules. The reason I haven't is because people seem to be having fun discussing the game.
 

[Saladinbob1]

-The Witcher 3 is a great game with strong characters from both genders.

 

-Gwent

 

-This is a very bad troll thread.

 

-The mods will only shut down or give warning points to cool people/threads.

 

-Troll threads and stupid things are allowed.

 

It is but it's not without its significant faults. Not every character is strong, foremost amongst them a criminally underdeveloped antagonist, it suffers from a character bias for one of its romances as well as at least one character (TW community members will know who I mean) being reduced to a caricature. Whilst your choices have consequence, the most important consequence is based upon the most innocuous of choices with the general writing being hit and miss due to a lack of save import negating your choices from the previous games and forcing a canon on people that was deeply unpopular. It  also suffered from an ending that had pretty much nothing to do with the rest of the game whatsoever, making it arguably worse than Mass Effect 3's.

 

Where it excels, and more importantly, where it is infinitely better than anything Bioware have ever done, is in its world. The world does not revolve around you, the player, or the protagonist. It goes on its merry way oblivious to you. Yes people react to your choices in the game but they do so in a way that feels natural rather than the contrived way most other games present those reactions. It feels alive in a way Bioware have never managed. Compare Novigrad, a city teeming with life, to Val Royeaux from Inquisition, a city bereft of atmosphere. Look at the way people throughout TW3's world go about their daily lives, who react and comment on everything from the weather to the political situation within the wider world, then compare it to Bioware's traditional hubs containing static models with limited animation and the same recorded mundane dialogue.

 

Bioware (and others) should not be afraid to take what was good from The Witcher 3, and other games for that matter, and apply it to their own games whilst learning from its mistakes in order to avoid repeating them. It's how we learn, not simply be avoiding our own mistakes, but avoiding the mistakes of others and if Andromeda is to be the game we all hope, a game that is s significant improvement on Inquisition and previous Mass Effect games, Bioware have to apply this. 

[Joseph Warrick]

A question about game worlds.

 

I started TW3 and it didn't grab me. But GTAV did. Reading the post above by Saladinbob1, he might as well be talking about Los Santos. It's just on another league in terms of life, not only compared to BW games but also Skyrim and FO4. How do the worlds of TW3 and GTAV measure up?

[Lulupab]

Again, you're talking out of your ass. 

 

You have made posts like this without any single elaboration, so stop trolling because you are the one talking out of your ass. Or you know, you are blind fanboy. Every time I criticized the books you were like "no no no you are wrong, you can't be right I know it they are best". Figures.

 

I have made my points about the books writing style which is true seeing none of you were able to object to it and a few people agreed on the writing style. I'm not talking about the story, the literary value of the books is garbage.

[Mcfly616]

Too late...

[Nattfare]

Haven't read any of the books myself actually. Polish has a tendency of being poorly translated into other languages as far as I know.

[Lulupab]

Haven't read any of the books myself actually. Polish has a tendency of being poorly translated into other languages as far as I know.

 

Now this is something I can accept, not blind fanboyism that books are actually good (when translated). Because they are not.

 

So far English and German translations are like how I described, but I admit the German is better. The English translation is just...

[Chealec]

You have made posts like this without any single elaboration, so stop trolling because you are the one talking out of your ass. Or you know, you are blind fanboy. Every time I criticized the books you were like "no no no you are wrong, you can't be right I know it they are best". Figures.

 

I have made my points about the books writing style which is true seeing none of you were able to object to it and a few people agreed on the writing style. I'm not talking about the story, the literary value of the books is garbage.

 

I've read the English translations of The Witcher books... I just took the writing style as having lost something in translation; but I guess the original Polish is basically pulp fiction then as well? Entertaining escapism that shouldn't be taken seriously.

[Lulupab]

I've read the English translations of The Witcher books... I basically just took the writing style as basically just having lost something in translation; but I guess the original Polish is basically pulp fiction then as well? Entertaining escapism that shouldn't be taken seriously.

 

I can't say anything about Polish version since I don't even know how to say hello in that language, but yes the genre of the book is pulp fiction. It says so when you want to buy it. The games really made the story standout and become what it is, the books cannot be taken seriously. 

[Nattfare]

I can't say anything about Polish version since I don't even know how to say hello in that language, but yes the genre of the book is pulp fiction. It says so when you want to buy it. The games really made the story standout and become what it is, the books cannot be taken seriously. 

 

You say "Dzień dorbry" if you're being formal or just "cześć" to close friends. 

 

You always get something lost in the translations or even things ruined. Reading Terry Pratchett in Swedish is nowhere near the same as reading him in English.

[Lulupab]

You say "Dzień dorbry" if you're being formal or just "cześć" to close friends. 

 

You always get something lost in the translations or even things ruined. Reading Terry Pratchett in Swedish is nowhere near the same as reading him in English.

 

If that's really the case then the fact that books are pulp fiction makes it worse because there are probably many local elements used in the books that would make no sense if translated. When translating a contemporary realism/modernism novel sure things get lost, but its always readable and the writer's style stays the same.

 

Another possible scenario is Polish literature was lagging a bit, so when the author wrote the books (around 2000's) he used a writing a style that ceased to be used in rest of the world years before that. It certainly seems outdated, even for a pulp fiction.

 

This is not the first book to be like that though, if anyone has read at least one of the LOTR books I think they know that Tolkien spends pages just to describe grass. It gets very unreadable at times.

[In Exile]

To be fair, there wasn't really much to retcon. There was so little info there.

 

From what little we did know, however, ME1 Cerberus was nothing like ME2/ME3 Cerberus. 

[AlleyD]

A question about game worlds.

 

I started TW3 and it didn't grab me. But GTAV did. Reading the post above by Saladinbob1, he might as well be talking about Los Santos. It's just on another league in terms of life, not only compared to BW games but also Skyrim and FO4. How do the worlds of TW3 and GTAV measure up?

 

Personally, I was more impressed with the world building in TW3 than I was with GTAV