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Bioware, please don't let The Witcher 3 influence Mass Effect Andromeda.


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If Inquisition had deep side content, I didn't see it. I don't recall a single side quest of Inquisition's. Probably because they all felt like cheap assignments. I should clarify my word choice-

 

Main Quests- Naturally, the quests that move the story forward to game completion. Expect cutscenes.

 

Side Quests- Quests that have a reduced importance than main quests but can sometimes be related to the main plot. Oftentimes having cutscenes.

 

Assignments- Quests with no importance, can take them or leave them, hold no narrative weight. Most often lacking cutscenes.

 

Inquisition made everything outside of the main quest line feel like assignments to me. Like, "Why am I even doing this? Is this just to pad things out?" Hence my mention earlier of camera work for the narrative making things feel important.

 

Other then companion quests, most of the side content felt like very superfulous filler. Especially since their stories felt so generic. Hell, the entire descent DLC felt like a giant generic side quest.

 

The only side quest in the entire game that actually called my attention was the one called "the loss of a friend" in Jaws of Hakkon, were you discover an Inquisition soldier went on a rampage on some Avaar after his friend was killed, and then when you finally find him following the onslaught, you discover him behaving rather oddly, untill by talking with him further and further, you discover he became an abomination. That quest had a great atmosphere and good build up.



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If Inquisition had deep side content, I didn't see it. I don't recall a single side quest of Inquisition's.


That's a shame, because it's there. A number of its side-quests have layers, tell stories, and have choice involved.

And that's not even taking the companions' personal arcs into account, which are entirely optional.
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is funny that not meter how much ppl wish ME A was like Witcher 3 or no, at this point the game wont change. So they making this type of post just to generated a debate or fight.

 

That why i think no one care

True, at this point nothing posted here will have any effect on the game whatsoever. I don't have strong feelings that most things posted on these boards would have an effect, though. Except possibly those threads with 50+ pages discussing a specific issue fans would like to see appear/disappear in the next game. A developer could quickly skim these forums and cherry pick topics from the most popular discussions if they wanted to get a pulse of what's important to fans here.

 

And the forum goers are a vocal minority of Bioware's consumers, I realize, so we're hardly a reliable sample.


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what game they making?

 

I can always recommend to check out Xenoblade Chronicles X at least for their approach of tying exploration into ressource management and progression. Getting a Skell (mech) in that game feels extremly rewarding and opens up a whole new meta to the game.

 

And then there is this little title:

 

Spoiler



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True, at this point nothing posted here will have any effect on the game whatsoever. I don't have strong feelings that most things posted on these boards would have an effect, though. Except possibly those threads with 50+ pages discussing a specific issue fans would like to see appear/disappear in the next game. A developer could quickly skim these forums and cherry pick topics from the most popular discussions if they wanted to get a pulse of what's important to fans here.

 

And the forum goers are a vocal minority of Bioware's consumers, I realize, so we're hardly a reliable sample.

 

more when ever single post about ME, become a DA vs Witcher 3 post



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That's a shame, because it's there. A number of its side-quests have layers, tell stories, and have choice involved.

And that's not even taking the companions' personal arcs into account, which are entirely optional.

 

 

If so, then I hope Bioware does a hell of a better job next time making it feel that way. It all felt like filler to me.


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I can allways recommend to check out Xenoblade Chronicles X at least for their approach of tying exploration into ressource management and progression. Getting a Skell (mech) in that game feels extremly rewarding and opens up a whole new meta to the game.

 

And then there is this little title:

 

Spoiler

 

mannnnnnn i want to play that game, to bad i need the New 3DS to be able to play it =S



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I think Witcher 3 is a pretty great game, but the black-and-white comparisons to Inquisition are so damn erroneous.
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That's a shame, because it's there. A number of its side-quests have layers, tell stories, and have choice involved.

And that's not even taking the companions' personal arcs into account, which are entirely optional.

 

Some do, however they can´t even reach depth of DA:O sidequests, DA:I was nothing more than one big MMO grind with some story here and there. Ironically enough, SWTOR with one random class is doing far better job in storytelling than whole DA:I will all the DLCs... 



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If so, then I hope Bioware does a hell of a better job next time making it feel that way. It all felt like filler to me.

 

Is meter of like, like i can undestand how you like Witcher 3 more, and how dreamgazer like DA more.



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Some do, however they can´t even reach depth of DA:O sidequests, DA:I was nothing more than one big MMO grind with some story here and there. Ironically enough, SWTOR with one random class is doing far better job in storytelling than whole DA:I will all the DLCs... 

 

 

DAO side quests felt awesome probably because the game itself felt awesome which I personally attribute to the game being built for PCs first and then being made for consoles prior to release. It felt like a PC game on console for me which I appreciated as a console gamer. Neither DA2 nor DAI captured that feel for me and I doubt a DA game ever will again so DAO will always hold that little rose-tinted part of my memory.


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I think Witcher 3 is a pretty great game, but the black-and-white comparisons to Inquisition are so damn erroneous.

 

Other than a pseudo-medieval fantasy setting, the games are fairly dissimilar. And the settings themselves are really different. I will say that although I think TW3 is a stronger game overall, I was able to replay DAI much more easily. Bioware games lend themselves to replays due to character creation and party dynamics. TW has some variability but overall I felt I got the most out of the story in one playthrough.


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 Let it influence you, Bioware. Let it influence you completely and eternally. 


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Other than a pseudo-medieval fantasy setting, the games are fairly dissimilar. And the settings themselves are really different. I will say that although I think TW3 is a stronger game overall, I was able to replay DAI much more easily. Bioware games lend themselves to replays due to character creation and party dynamics. TW has some variability but overall I felt I got the most out of the story in one playthrough.

 

yeah i never understand those that claim the have invest over 300hs on Witcher 3, i never could replay the game (outside the DLC, thansk god you can just play it w/o replay, since i got a save corruption for blood and wine).



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Some do, however they can´t even reach depth of DA:O sidequests


Eh, I recall fetching swords, delivering death notices, and collecting galls in Origins, among many others that Inquisition gets grief for all the time.
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Other than a pseudo-medieval fantasy setting, the games are fairly dissimilar. And the settings themselves are really different. I will say that although I think TW3 is a stronger game overall, I was able to replay DAI much more easily. Bioware games lend themselves to replays due to character creation and party dynamics. TW has some variability but overall I felt I got the most out of the story in one playthrough.

 

 

Both DAI and TW3 take forever to beat if you try to be a completionist(like I am). I haven't played Inquisition again and don't plan to. I also didn't plan on playing TW3 again after I beat it the first time, but I decided to do so again just to try it on NG+ Death March(hardest difficulty).

 

So for me, both are the type of game where you can get all of it in one sitting. Technically because of the multiple options in both you would need to play it more than once, but ehh. I'm the kind of gamer who plays narratively powerful games just once unless they stand out.



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I have avoided bsn for months, precisely because of threads like this. listen OP if your trolling not bad. If you are not, grow up. the reason the witcher 3 is heralded as an amazing game is because it tackles real life situations.

 

The baron for instance, on one hand alcoholic woman beater who ultimately looses his wife and chases his daughter away,

on the other is generally well meaning and truly does care for his family. do you know why this was so well received? because thats the way real life is. 

 

Every single one of us are deeply flawed individuals The baron in the story is definitely not portrayed as a good guy. but not as a icon of evil either like everyone is. you want people like this man to be decryed burned within the story. but in real life. someone might be a horrible racist but spend every weekend volunteering at a homeless shelter. in your search to demonize the enemy you forget that no matter how great the flaw everyone has redeeming qualities there is no such thing as good or evil its not some star wars like force that infects us.

 

We as humans will make mistakes we all will do something in life we deeply regret deep down you know your just like all those sexists you hate, flawed, misinformed, and searching for someone to blame for your problems. I do not blame you though, its natural to want an enemy to fight against.  The whole point of the witchers narrative is that life in inherently unfair and that the decisions we make, the people we hurt, that stays with us. You cant take it back, but you can learn from it. This is a lesson you need to learn, because your either a master troll (props you got me) or a child who thinks the world will bend to your will.

 

Here's a heads up, it wont. life is unfair, it never will be fair, never has been fair, and thinking for a single second that you or anyone else is out to make it fair is as stupid and it is futile. but this is only a warning because when you get older you will either adapt to this unfair world or you will kill youself in frustration.

 

Play the hand your dealt to the best of your ability, the second you start worrying about the cards you should have had is the second you stop worrying about the ones you do.

 

Edit: for everyone reading this, this is why the political climate we live in today is as bad as it is. Somewhere along the lines we forgot that no matter what side of any argument we stand on no single belief makes us good or evil, the person on the other side came to their beliefs right or wrong from there own experiences no one is a sheep no one is tricked or coerced into their beliefs and finding out why someone holds that belief is more important to the belief itself. Real life isnt black or white either even though we all make it out to be.


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#143
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Guys, please stop complimenting The Witcher 3. There is nothing worthy of praise in that game. All you're doing is encouraging Bioware to take advice from a company that prides itself on making horrendous dude-bro, male power fantasy simulators. 



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Guys, please stop complimenting The Witcher 3. There is nothing worthy of praise in that game. All you're doing is encouraging Bioware to take advice from a company that prides itself on making horrendous dude-bro, male power fantasy simulators. 

 

Too transparent, bro.



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Guys, please stop complimenting The Witcher 3. There is nothing worthy of praise in that game. All you're doing is encouraging Bioware to take advice from a company that prides itself on making horrendous dude-bro, male power fantasy simulators.


Are you having a giggle? You're having a giggle. You better be having a giggle.
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Guys, please stop complimenting The Witcher 3. There is nothing worthy of praise in that game. All you're doing is encouraging Bioware to take advice from a company that prides itself on making horrendous dude-bro, male power fantasy simulators. 

 

doing the same post over and over wont win you anything


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Wait.... Did people actually take this troll OP's bait?!?  What is happening on the boards today?



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Wait.... Did people actually take this troll OP's bait?!?  What is happening on the boards today?

 

there is like 3 post doing Trolls discussions so i guess we (at least i am) are bored.



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Looks like the mods are nuking the troll threads this evening.



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Wait.... Did people actually take this troll OP's bait?!?  What is happening on the boards today?

 

 

If it counts for anything I'm posting in response to other people in this thread so as to have some form of valuable conversation.


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