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Chances of playing a Magister in DA:4?


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Valerius

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Hey guys, so I'm wondering how likely you think it is that one of the possible backrounds we get to choose between is a tevinter magister. The most prevalent theory circulating around the forums is that the next game takes place in tevinter and I think it would be a great way to see how magisters compete with one another in keeping their power. Plus I've had a secret obsession with wanting to play as a magister ever since origins C=. Do you guys think it will be a plausible option?



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DuskWanderer

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As an NPC, maybe. A PC, doubtful



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A magister background is plausible, but an active magister as a protagonist is unlikely, because the starting setup must be able to accommodate different classes, backgrounds and ideologies. The question is: how much "being a magister" can you put into such a setup? Not very much, I suspect.



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A magister background is plausible, but an active magister as a protagonist is unlikely, because the starting setup must be able to accommodate different classes, backgrounds and ideologies. The question is: how much "being a magister" can you put into such a setup? Not very much, I suspect.

How about if you are a magister and dorian recruits you into the setup itself? With him being a magister it would make sense for him to know you. Perhaps you were working with him originally to change the magisterium for the better.


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How about if you are a magister and dorian recruits you into the setup itself? With him being a magister it would make sense for him to know you. Perhaps you were working with him originally to change the magisterium for the better.

I hope not, that's as cliche as it comes.



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It would be interesting if we started from a position of power instead of the traditional setup, but I don't know how they could do that and keep it balanced if there is going to be race selection. In Tevinter, a Mage could be a magister and i suppose a dwarf could be an Ambassadoria representative, but what positions of power could an elf, human non-Mage, or Qunari have? I mean part of me does ljke the idea of different backgrounds having huge variations like that, but realistically I don't see them doing it.

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I don't think Bioware excels at the huge task of writing a character with power in a believable large organization. An organization that is leading a nation might not be their strength. The leaders of Orlais just seemed pathetic at their supposedly grand game in DAI. The nations of Thedas felt absent until Trespasser which made DAI weird.

 

They do awesome writing semi-complex heros from lower status who get help from an interesting pretty well written unlikely motley crew of companions with whom you can make sweet sweet romance with.

Maybe a disgraced former Magister who still interacts with actual Magister NPCs.   



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More likely an Altus than an actual Magister, I'd think. Or a Magister's apprentice. Magisters are uncommon and high ranking.

Might get to be a Magister by the end, though.

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I don't see this idea flying with my anticipated first character of the glorious Qunari race.

 

ETA:  Don't be that guy that goes off on the whole Kossith / Qunari tangent.  Seriously.  Don't be that guy.


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At this point, pretty much anything is possible for DA4, likely, well probably not, unless they give us more of a DAO type beginning, then it would allow for different classes and races form different backgrounds and locations. If it's like DAI and, every possible race and class has to fit into the same prologue, then, I would not expect a magister, or an Qunari who was not Tal Vashoth, nor a dwarf who was not a surface dwarf.



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I don't think they'll do another Origins style beginning, sadly. It's one of my favorite parts of the series, but I think they want to move past it for both narrative reasons (having more control over it) and technical/budget reasons (it's more expensive to do with voiced characters).

For that reason, I think they'll want us to all be able to start out in relatively similar situations. Obviously a human mage will have better social standing than an elven rogue but if they're a magister, then they have access to so much resources it would dramatically have to change the story's scope. Even if they were disgraced TBH, because they'd still have connections and knowledge others wouldn't have.

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Being an actual Magister would involve too much paperwork and politicking, methinks. But an Altus? That could work. Maybe you're being groomed for a position in the Magisterium and you have to prove your worth. (Only, in the tradition of the HN and DN origins, everything goes to crap, your reputation is besmirched, and you have to claw your way up from the bottom. :lol:)

I'm definitely interested in being a dwarf from the Ambassadoria. Or even just having family connections there?

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Against all odds, I'm pulling for an elf-only PC, so hopefully not.



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I doubt it. In the first place, they're the bad guys of the series.

 

Secondly, I imagine it takes years and years of politicking to get to that position, since one isn't born a magister so much as works their way to that position after being born to one of the select few elite "right" families (Altus), gets the "right" schooling, and climbs the social and political ladder to get there.

 

I imagine at best we'll have the option to play an Altus, maybe the son/daughter of a magister like Dorian, and the opening narration will explain how we've had the best and brightest upbringing our society could offer (a la Pup Cousland) and how we have a bright future with a shot at the Magisterium in our near future when the Big Conflict strikes.

 

Of course, I plan to play an elf and hopefully a slave, so I'm not personally interested. 



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I hope its one option, I'd prefer to play an elven character myself but it would be interesting to see an actual Tevinter mages perspective of events in DA4. I'm hoping for an elven mage Laetan? I think they're called (lower class mages). If we get to be a member of Dorians new political party even better.



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Magister is unlikely, magister-in-the-making-who-becomes-magister-at-the-end more likely.



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If there was a Magister background for the PC, you'd probably be working with Dorian and Maevaris Tilani in an attempt to pull the Tevinter Empire out of the cesspool it has found itself in.

Hopefully this isn't the case as I believe that Magisters are strictly Humans. (There might be some Elves perhaps?) And I'd rather see the four races again as being playable characters like in DA:I instead of being nerfed back down to a Human like in DA:2.

If you meant that this was an origin rather than an actual important part of the story like the Inquisitor was, then yeah. I don't see why not? - But rather being a Magister who has even fallen out with the Magisterium or again, is working with Dorian and Mae in the background,


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Knight of Dane

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My best guess is that if we have race/class backgrounds again that we will be an altus as a human mage?



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Asdrubael Vect

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hope for elven laetan magister



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I doubt it. In the first place, they're the bad guys of the series.

 

I don't know, I've got a lot of time for Magister Tilani and the new Magister Pavus.

 

Bioware games all start out with the PC very unimportant, and then becoming important over the game. Even the DA:O Dwarf and Human noble origins had you immediately lose all noble privelege, and the DAI Trevelyan was a minor member of a minor house. Magisters are the Tevinter 1%. I think it unlikely that mage characters start as magisters; if they do, it will be to lose that position (in practice if not in name) in the first five minutes of the game.



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I don't think you would start out that way and obviously they probably wouldn't make you play a mage. Possibly if you are a mage, that could be a later outcome for you, the way in certain games you've been able to become king/queen, or viscount, or other positions of power. I think it would be either end game or near end game, though.

 

With as big as they've gone in the past, maybe you could even become the Archon in the end slides, possibly with an option to make Dorian the Black Divine. Or, hell, Anders. Why not?