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[Maia]

Maybe - I'd base that on the fact they aren't showing gameplay-footage (if the game really only needs "polishing" than they would proudly show it off - then again: They might do so at GamesCom (E3 is important, but GamesCom is equally important, if not more!))

 

Still, I haven't given up hope (one the other hand: Them playing is so close to their chest makes me cautious and weary, the Fallout 4 devs at Bethesda did the same: They showed cool trailers (with great music, got to give them that - IMHO Bioware is trying to jump on that train, I mean look at the first trailer with that ghost-riders song!), made lofty promises etc. and in the end didn't keep them (the game is almost as bad as ME3 -.- and that's saying something IMHO!)...hell, they've done so before with ME3 -.-)

 

greetings LAX

mass effect 3 was a good game, come on

[RZIBARA]

OP is pessimistic and shares a view based on no data whatsoever.

Thanks for that... 

 

(If 'possibly' had been used rather than 'probably', that might elicit more sympathy)

 

a pessimest is what an optimist calls a realist

[Arcian]

Yes, how silly of me to not read a bunch of doom and gloom into absolutely nothing but unfounded speculation. What am I thinking?

 

Tell me, then, what evil scheme is BioWare hoping to achieve with this cunning lie?

Making money.

[workforme]

Bioware can't say Good Morning without lying twice. 

Gamlen Amell approve+2

[Keeper of Light]

Oh that's adorable, you still trust BioWare.

 

Well, some of us do still trust Bioware. I do, with all of my heart, too. Why are you here, then?

[Kierro Ren]

Something tells me you're wrong. GG atheists.

 

Why are you trying to turn a delay thread into a religious war...? This is why we can't have nice things people, this is why.

[thebigbad1013]

Making money.

 

So... pointlessly lying about the state of the game = making money?

[UpUpAway]

So... pointlessly lying about the state of the game = making money?

 

1) We don't know if there will be another delay (for the simple fact, It hasn't happened yet.)

2) Therefore, we don't know if they are lying about the state of the game.

3) Since we don't really know if they are lying at all, we certainly can't know if they are "pointlessly lying" or not.

[PrinceofTime]

Ill say it again, anyone who think this game is coming out early 2017 is delusional. 

[thebigbad1013]

1) We don't know if there will be another delay (for the simple fact, It hasn't happened yet.)

2) Therefore, we don't know if they are lying about the state of the game.

3) Since we don't really know if they are lying at all, we certainly can't know if they are "pointlessly lying" or not.

 

All true, but I am still waiting to hear why they would say the game is in the polish stage if it's not. If they are planning to delay the game again, which there is absolutely no evidence of whatsoever, then they are only setting themselves up for more grief down the road. This whole business with assuming that everything they say is a lie just because...I don't find it very compelling at all.

[deuce985]

They have an entire thread on this subject not even that far down from this page.

 

http://forum.bioware...y-no-game-play/

[UpUpAway]

All true, but I am still waiting to hear why they would say the game is in the polish stage if it's not. If they are planning to delay the game again, which there is absolutely no evidence of whatsoever, then they are only setting themselves up for more grief down the road. This whole business with assuming that everything they say is a lie just because...I don't find it very compelling at all.

 

I would ask that if, as you admit, there is "no evidence of whatsoever" why even suggest that they are setting themselves up for anything.  Looks to me like it more like you're setting yourself up for "something" by speculating in directions for which you have "no evidence of whatsoever."

 

One of my many unpopular opinions here is that entirely too much effort goes into engaging in wild speculations here on BSN... and then trying to build equally wild and speculative accusations based on those wild speculations.  People claim all the pessimism is so that they don't wind up disappointed... but I really think they are setting themselves up to be disappointed if and when the "doom" they are speculating about doesn't happen.  Their greatest fear is that, Heaven forbid, Bioware just might survive after all.

 

As for pessimists and realists - Well, Ashley is say that a "pessimist is what an optimist calls a realist"  However, her speculation that Wrex and Vakarian would misuse their free access to the ship that Shepard gave them, didn't have any "substance" to it, did it?  In other words, neither Garrus, Wrex, nor Tali sabotaged the ship in any way or passed on secret information about the Normandy to their respective governments.  In fact, the "leak" was human and used by the human-centric Cerberus organization to build the SR-2. So, from that perspective, I would say that Ashley's opinion about pessimism was pretty irrelevant and her speculation/accusations were as unfounded as saying Bioware is "pointlessly lying" about a delay that hasn't happened yet.

[themikefest]

If its delayed, its delayed. No big deal for me. I'm sure I'll have other things I can do to pass the time.

[thebigbad1013]

I would ask that if, as you admit, there is "no evidence of whatsoever" why even suggest that they are setting themselves up for anything.  Looks to me like it more like you're setting yourself up for "something" by speculating in directions for which you have "no evidence of whatsoever."

 

One of my many unpopular opinions here is that entirely too much effort goes into engaging in wild speculations here on BSN... and then trying to build equally wild and speculative accusations based on those wild speculations.  People claim all the pessimism is so that they don't wind up disappointed... but I really think they are setting themselves up to be disappointed if and when the "doom" they are speculating about doesn't happen.  Heaven forbid... Bioware just might survive after all.

 

I don't think I'm setting myself up for anything. As I said, I have seen no evidence whatsoever to suggest that there is going to be another delay. BioWare said that the game was in the polish stage--why would they go to the trouble of stating that if it wasn't true? IF it wasn't true, which I'm not saying that it is at all, then they would be setting themselves up for more crap down the road. But, again, I don't think that's the case at all.

[Pasquale1234]

Some perfectly plausible reasons for the lack of gameplay at E3:

-- EA wanted to focus on other upcoming titles
-- They want to polish it up a bit more, and finalize the content before they show it off
-- They want to create sustainable hype once they do actually show it. That's difficult to do over an 8-9 month period. Showing gameplay at about the same time you launch your marketing blitz and start accepting pre-orders sounds like a decent marketing plan to me.

In any case, we'll see it when we see it.

[katamuro]

Some perfectly plausible reasons for the lack of gameplay at E3:

-- EA wanted to focus on other upcoming titles
-- They want to polish it up a bit more, and finalize the content before they show it off
-- They want to create sustainable hype once they do actually show it. That's difficult to do over an 8-9 month period. Showing gameplay at about the same time you launch your marketing blitz and start accepting pre-orders sounds like a decent marketing plan to me.

In any case, we'll see it when we see it.

 

Also releasing more stuff on N7 day is something I see them doing. Like Bethesda did with F04. They could start on N7 day and then ramp up PR up to spring 2017. 

Also even if it delays from March 2017 to May 2017 its not a big deal. 

[tracesaint]

From some of the tweets I have read from developers it sounds like it's playable from start to finish. I doubt they would delay it a second time, I assume aside from polishing it helps EA's Q1 look better.

[7twozero]

OP is pessimistic and shares a view based on no data whatsoever.

Describes about 2600 threads in this forum

[Spectr61]

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EA keeps a tight rein on game development. I read somewhere that Bio mgrs report/discuss game progress with EA often if not daily. The Bio studio will have to cut some features to meet the deadline, if further delays are prohibited.

Agreed.

This is probably why Mac survived the ME3 fiasco. All report indicate that ME3 originally had significantly more content, but large amounts were cut and the entire storyline readjusted to meet an EA imposed deadline. This probably spared the advocates for the original version from the corporate axe following the fiasco that rose from the ME3 endings, and the resultant EA stock price decline, lost market capitalisation, and the mea culpa of the extended cut.

Else, how did someone responsible not only survive, but get promoted from writer to development director?

[SofaJockey]

Also even if it delays from March 2017 to May 2017 its not a big deal. 

 

It may be a huge deal for EA's financial year projections.

We know how much of an issue revenue recognition is when it comes to content release.

 

My thinking is that March 31 is a hard date by which MEA must be coming out.

 

EA are projecting c.$5b revenue in 2015/16, making pre-orders even more important for a game hitting at the tail of a Financial Year.

Personally, I'd expect an earlier release (late February) so that they can capitalise on a sufficient sales window for MEA.
My guess: February 21 US, February 24 Europe.

[Siluan]

Well if a delay happens... it would suck, but I'd rather have a delayed yet polished game than an earlier unpolished version.

 

And anyway, I don't see that really happening. I assume Bioware not showing much of the gameplay yet is a part of keeping us suspense and then wow us with a big reveal (fingers crossed).

[wolfsite]

and people wonder why some of the developers see this place as toxic.

[BatarianBob]

I suspect that the secrecy is due to changes on the gameplay side that they know won't go over well and didn't want E3 tainted by the backlash that they know will ensue when they spill the beans.

 

It's going to turn out to be a Destiny clone.  Multiplayer only, no story or characters to speak of.

[Armass81]

Destiny treatment would be the end of Mass Effect, all right, goddamn that game and its "story".

 

"I could tell you... I could tell you... BUT I WONT. MUAHAHAHAHAAH!"

 

"i dont even have time to explain why i dont have time to explain."

 

Thanks Bungie.

[AlanC9]

I suspect that the secrecy is due to changes on the gameplay side that they know won't go over well and didn't want E3 tainted by the backlash that they know will ensue when they spill the beans.
 

As written, this sounds crazy; why commit to changes that you think will not go over well?