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[Sifr]

Even when I've been at my absolute worst be mood or otherwise, I have never made a threat of bodily-harm towards another person.

 

There's a reason that most courts cannot use "I'll kill you" as the sole evidence to convict someone, if the person being spoken to is later murdered. It's a common thing people say angrily in the heat of the moment, it doesn't mean people will actually follow through on it.

 

Bianca's threat is the same as the stereotype of the overprotective father taking the boyfriends of their teenage daughter aside, to impress upon them what might happen, should they get them home late and with disheveled clothes. Not often said as an actual threat, but more a minor warning and expression of concern for someone they love's safety and well-being.

 

And look at it this way, how is Bianca's comment any different than Tali telling Garrus to shut up by saying "I have a shotgun". Of course, Tali and Garrus are friends, but the point remains that it's not something that is meant to be taken seriously.

[Xilizhra]

There's a reason that most courts cannot use "I'll kill you" as the sole evidence to convict someone, if the person being spoken to is later murdered. It's a common thing people say angrily in the heat of the moment, it doesn't mean people will actually follow through on it.

 

Bianca's threat is the same as the stereotype of the overprotective father taking the boyfriends of their teenage daughter aside, to impress upon them what might happen, should they get them home late and with disheveled clothes. Not often said as an actual threat, but more a minor warning and expression of concern for someone they love's safety and well-being.

 

And look at it this way, how is Bianca's comment any different than Tali telling Garrus to shut up by saying "I have a shotgun". Of course, Tali and Garrus are friends, but the point remains that it's not something that is meant to be taken seriously.

It's an extremely poor last impression, at the very least. Also, said dads are being jerkasses. I don't hate Bianca, but I don't think that she adds anything of value to the game.

[Sifr]

It's an extremely poor last impression, at the very least. Also, said dads are being jerkasses. I don't hate Bianca, but I don't think that she adds anything of value to the game.

 

I agree that she could have ended on a better note, but her curtness was not really surprising. If you've had a huge bust up with your lover, then had to speak to someone who witnessed it, you're going to be a tad short with them (pardon the expression) because of how embarrassed you are.

 

I think the real problem is that Inquisition didn't really translate some book-to-game characters particularly well. Briala and Fiona likewise aren't given that much screen time that might allow us to sympathise with their characters either.

[sniper_arrow]

I think the real problem is that Inquisition didn't really translate some book-to-game characters particularly well. Briala and Fiona likewise aren't given that much screen time that might allow us to sympathise with their characters either.

 

I think it's more on the writing and the development. There might be some instances some additional scenes or dialogue featuring the book characters were cut at the last minute.

[Xilizhra]

I agree that she could have ended on a better note, but her curtness was not really surprising. If you've had a huge bust up with your lover, then had to speak to someone who witnessed it, you're going to be a tad short with them (pardon the expression) because of how embarrassed you are.

 

I think the real problem is that Inquisition didn't really translate some book-to-game characters particularly well. Briala and Fiona likewise aren't given that much screen time that might allow us to sympathise with their characters either.

I wouldn't have minded (and I still don't mind much, but the topic is here now) if she didn't have to have gotten the last word.

[Shechinah]

There's a reason that most courts cannot use "I'll kill you" as the sole evidence to convict someone, if the person being spoken to is later murdered. It's a common thing people say angrily in the heat of the moment, it doesn't mean people will actually follow through on it.

If a person says; "I'll kill you" to me then that person is not going to endear themselves to me no matter if the words were spoken in the heat of the moment or if it is an empty threat.

 

Bianca's threat is the same as the stereotype of the overprotective father taking the boyfriends of their teenage daughter aside, to impress upon them what might happen, should they get them home late and with disheveled clothes. Not often said as an actual threat, but more a minor warning and expression of concern for someone they love's safety and well-being.

 

In real life, I don't consider a threat of bodily-harm to be a minor warning nor funny and I don't consider the circumstances the right ones to warrant such a threat. If in real life, the father says it as an obvious joke then that is something else.
 

And look at it this way, how is Bianca's comment any different than Tali telling Garrus to shut up by saying "I have a shotgun". Of course, Tali and Garrus are friends, but the point remains that it's not something that is meant to be taken seriously.

 

That Tali and Garrus are friendly towards each other or have been around each time for enough time changes - the context? - the context of the remark so comes across as joking. As Bianca and the Inquisitor did not know each other, I do not feel like there is that context. It may have been saveable if the Inquisitor had been able to respond to it in some ways including with humor.

 

I know this is something that is likely one of those instances where it comes down to personal taste and personal opinion so I'll say that the remark has never sat well with me personally and is part of the reason why I do not personally find Bianca likable.

[nightscrawl]

DAI is the elaborate story of a dog who really wants his ball back... and the person who accidentally caught it instead.

I have now laughed twice at people's comments about my description. There are a lot of things that suspension of disbelief masks for me. Now that you bring it up, why WOULD anyone grab a glowing ball that looked like it had just been used as some sort of weapon?

I refuse to blame my Inquisitor. It was only her bad luck that her game of hide and seek meets hot potato led her to the Divine and Cory. She took a wrong turn at Albuquerque

 
Haha, well to be fair to our Inquisitors, I do think it's rather instinctual to make such a motion. Also, the thought process could be that the object is important, and the Divine knocked it out of her attacker's hand, so we should pick it up before he has a chance to reclaim it.

[vbibbi]

There's a reason that most courts cannot use "I'll kill you" as the sole evidence to convict someone, if the person being spoken to is later murdered. It's a common thing people say angrily in the heat of the moment, it doesn't mean people will actually follow through on it.

 

Bianca's threat is the same as the stereotype of the overprotective father taking the boyfriends of their teenage daughter aside, to impress upon them what might happen, should they get them home late and with disheveled clothes. Not often said as an actual threat, but more a minor warning and expression of concern for someone they love's safety and well-being.

 

And look at it this way, how is Bianca's comment any different than Tali telling Garrus to shut up by saying "I have a shotgun". Of course, Tali and Garrus are friends, but the point remains that it's not something that is meant to be taken seriously.

 

I think it's the presentation which causes so many people to dislike her. She gets the last word (which is a similar issue many have to Vivienne), she is never officially held accountable for her actions (a reason why so many people dislike Fiona, as well) and her response is always hostile regardless of our actions. She encapsulates a lot of the writing issues I had with DAI: lack of variation based on player choice, karma houdinis, and mandated smarter than thou personalities.

 

Plus, she was built up off screen throughout DA2 and the first half of DAI. She was bound to be a disappointment for many fans regardless of her actual character, but to have her be faintly hostile to the Inquisitor while also being a major cause of heartache to fan favorite Varric wasn't going to endear her to fans.

 

I will say that I liked the direction Bio took with her. I found her unlikeable and am not a fan of her as a person. BUT I find this realistic, if depressing, as there are people who date or idolize people who really aren't that great. "We accept the love we think we deserve" and all that. Her appearance actually added to Varric's character for me. Prior to that, he didn't have many apparent flaws and was an all around good guy. Now, he's still a good guy but with horrible taste in women and slightly pathetic to be longing for someone whom he knows he can never truly be with.

 

 
Haha, well to be fair to our Inquisitors, I do think it's rather instinctual to make such a motion. Also, the thought process could be that the object is important, and the Divine knocked it out of her attacker's hand, so we should pick it up before he has a chance to reclaim it.

 

Joking aside I don't blame the Inquisitor for picking up the orb at all. As you say, it's a perfectly natural automatic response, and was presented as a mechanical reflex rather than a calculated decision. My issues are with how the scene was set up, how Cory had access to the Divine in the middle of the Conclave, etc etc but that's off topic.

[Dabrikishaw]

So Bianca caused all the trouble with the game. The conclave, Corypheus, red templars. She did all that and then got to trash talk the inquisitor and then drop the mic and walk away? 

All Bianca did was supply Corypheus with his Red Lyrium, and then try to use the Inquisition to cover her mistake. The Conclave was all Corypheus. I've also never felt Bianca made a meaningful threat to the Inquisitor either, and the vitriol aimed at that threat unwarranted.

 

Other than that I found Bianca a terrible character for a couple of reasons, being super unbelievable within the context of Thedas being the biggest one.

[Aliceeverafter]

So Bianca caused all the trouble with the game. The conclave, Corypheus, red templars. She did all that and then got to trash talk the inquisitor and then drop the mic and walk away? 

 

Actually what would have been great was to take her to the fade rather than hawke and stroud and get her to fight the big bad. Woulda made my day

[lynroy]

Ah, I see OP has opened yet another thread to complain about something without ever returning to discuss said complaint. And LOL at placing all the blame for causing all the trouble that happened in the game on Bianca. What about that guy with the pointed ears, gave his orb to Corypheus that allowed the explosion at the conclave to happen? I'd say he's more to blame. Or, you know, Corypheus himself?    But OP isn't going to return to discuss this.

[thats1evildude]

I don't care if Bianca's threat was genuine. She was curt when she should have been contrite; THAT bothers me. And she hid important information to avoid blame.

Secondly, I dislike how she was sold as being so awesome that we should be grateful to be in Bianca's presence. She's a genius inventor and a better archer than Varric and she's the only woman Varric will ever love and blah, blah, blah.

 

Her parting words are just an example of her arrogance. You're going to cut out MY eyeballs? You and whose Inquisition, duster? Nonetheless, she believes I should take her empty threat seriously, since she's Bianca Davri, and she's used to the world revolving around her.

 

Well, you're still the idiot who led Corypheus to the Primeval Thaig. All the Wardens in the world to consult on red lyrium and you pick the ONE Warden who was possessed by a darkspawn magister. Nice work.

[duckley]

I really wanted to love Bianca, but her portrayal really did not engage me, and in fact my love of Varric kind of faltered....

She reminded me of a tough talking caricature of of gangster's moll who caused incredible destruction and then - has the nerves to tritley  threatened the Inquisitor. Really disappointed in her and in Varric's resigned acceptance of her..

[Yermogi]

I will say that I liked the direction Bio took with her. I found her unlikeable and am not a fan of her as a person. BUT I find this realistic, if depressing, as there are people who date or idolize people who really aren't that great. "We accept the love we think we deserve" and all that. Her appearance actually added to Varric's character for me. Prior to that, he didn't have many apparent flaws and was an all around good guy. Now, he's still a good guy but with horrible taste in women and slightly pathetic to be longing for someone whom he knows he can never truly be with.

This... is actually a valid and excellent point. I hadn't considered the issue from that angle. The relationship has been terrible for a long time and everyone knows it but Varric... that is, if Varric told anyone about it. And now that we know about it, there's a side of Varric that bothers us because, as you said, he didn't really have flaws before. But this is a glaring flaw that we can't ignore- he's in a horrible relationship and doesn't know it, or doesn't want to acknowledge it. And yes, it does make us look at him as being somewhat pathetic now. Maybe that was their goal all along. 

 

Now that I'm looking at the entire thing in this light, I'm actually growing more appreciative of this entire idea. It's not that Varric is pathetic now- it's that he's always had this foolish, miserable side to him, and we just never knew it because we were never in a situation where we could see it. And now that we do, it's changed our perspectives of him so that we see all of him, not just the flawless side that he presents.

 

Yes, yes... I am very much liking this now. I actually approve. I still think Bianca is annoying as hell, but I like the fact that he's no longer our perfect Paragon of Dwarven Manliness (or at least he's not mine). Now if only we could call him out on this...

[phoray]

This... is actually a valid and excellent point. I hadn't considered the issue from that angle. The relationship has been terrible for a long time and everyone knows it but Varric... that is, if Varric told anyone about it. And now that we know about it, there's a side of Varric that bothers us because, as you said, he didn't really have flaws before. But this is a glaring flaw that we can't ignore- he's in a horrible relationship and doesn't know it, or doesn't want to acknowledge it. And yes, it does make us look at him as being somewhat pathetic now. Maybe that was their goal all along. 

 

Now that I'm looking at the entire thing in this light, I'm actually growing more appreciative of this entire idea. It's not that Varric is pathetic now- it's that he's always had this foolish, miserable side to him, and we just never knew it because we were never in a situation where we could see it. And now that we do, it's changed our perspectives of him so that we see all of him, not just the flawless side that he presents.

 

Yes, yes... I am very much liking this now. I actually approve. I still think Bianca is annoying as hell, but I like the fact that he's no longer our perfect Paragon of Dwarven Manliness (or at least he's not mine). Now if only we could call him out on this...

 

 

And he says he never brought her up because of the crossbow connection, but what if he knows it's a bad relationship, stays in it, but if he talks about it aloud, he and everyone around him will be like, "Dude, that's ****. Move on."

 

He doesn't want to hear that advice.

[Yermogi]

And he says he never brought her up because of the crossbow connection, but what if he knows it's a bad relationship, stays in it, but if he talks about it aloud, he and everyone around him will be like, "Dude, that's ****. Move on."

 

He doesn't want to hear that advice.

Yes. Yes, that makes a lot of sense.

 

Man, now I just pity the guy. I hate pitying him when I used to think he was the greatest ever. Maybe that's the point.

[Spirit Vanguard]

What rubbed me the wrong way about Bianca right from the start was that it almost felt like they were trying to make her likable. As if maybe they were trying too hard. She felt like an insincere character right from the first word she spoke. And then she spoke more words that only made her feel like a failed "female version of Varric." When she threatens you at the end because...? I don't know, her own guilt? Could she be projecting her own worries about her responsibility of the situation coupled with the helplessness to actually fix it onto the Inquisitor because, maybe like Varric, she's not good at "dealing with this" either?

[Alaric]

What rubbed me the wrong way about Bianca right from the start was that it almost felt like they were trying to make her likable. As if maybe they were trying too hard. She felt like an insincere character right from the first word she spoke. And then she spoke more words that only made her feel like a failed "female version of Varric." When she threatens you at the end because...? I don't know, her own guilt? Could she be projecting her own worries about her responsibility of the situation coupled with the helplessness to actually fix it onto the Inquisitor because, maybe like Varric, she's not good at "dealing with this" either?

I feel like that as the Inquisitor, we're looking at Bianca at an outsiders perspective. We never get a chance to actually sit and talk with her; to be able to get to know the woman who has brought wondrous technology to a people that although they use and adore this tech, pretend she doesn't exist because of her caste. She has a bit of a sharp tongue, but that's to be expected of a friend of Varric, especially that she is closer to Varric, that I would argue, than Hawke is.

Bianca is in love with Varric; he is in love with her. Unfortunately, she had to marry someone she had no interest in for the benefit of her family. They're like Romeo and Juliet; the whole clan war thing, just without the weird murder-fest because of someone they'd know for like three days. Yet her own curiosity and misguided want to do good lead to Corypheus finding the Red Lyrium. 

Yes, she feels guilty, perhaps more-so because Varric is disappointed in her rather than the fact that many people either died or got hurt because of her. (Unintentionally I stress.) - The last words to the Inquisitor, the perceived threat, is light-hearted enough to brush off because I feel, or at least MY Inquisitor feels that it is simply a woman who is afraid that the man she cares for might die following the Inquisitor into a situation she has no control over. She's worried, it doesn't mean that she would ever act upon it.

[nightscrawl]

I feel like that as the Inquisitor, we're looking at Bianca at an outsiders perspective. We never get a chance to actually sit and talk with her; to be able to get to know the woman who has brought wondrous technology to a people that although they use and adore this tech, pretend she doesn't exist because of her caste. She has a bit of a sharp tongue, but that's to be expected of a friend of Varric, especially that she is closer to Varric, that I would argue, than Hawke is.

Bianca is in love with Varric; he is in love with her. Unfortunately, she had to marry someone she had no interest in for the benefit of her family. They're like Romeo and Juliet; the whole clan war thing, just without the weird murder-fest because of someone they'd know for like three days. Yet her own curiosity and misguided want to do good lead to Corypheus finding the Red Lyrium. 

Yes, she feels guilty, perhaps more-so because Varric is disappointed in her rather than the fact that many people either died or got hurt because of her. (Unintentionally I stress.) - The last words to the Inquisitor, the perceived threat, is light-hearted enough to brush off because I feel, or at least MY Inquisitor feels that it is simply a woman who is afraid that the man she cares for might die following the Inquisitor into a situation she has no control over. She's worried, it doesn't mean that she would ever act upon it.

Thank the Maker for you, because, while I hadn't felt too negatively toward her before, this thread was moving me in that direction. You've saved me!

[thats1evildude]

I feel like that as the Inquisitor, we're looking at Bianca at an outsiders perspective. We never get a chance to actually sit and talk with her; to be able to get to know the woman who has brought wondrous technology to a people that although they use and adore this tech, pretend she doesn't exist because of her caste. She has a bit of a sharp tongue, but that's to be expected of a friend of Varric, especially that she is closer to Varric, that I would argue, than Hawke is.

Bianca is in love with Varric; he is in love with her. Unfortunately, she had to marry someone she had no interest in for the benefit of her family. They're like Romeo and Juliet; the whole clan war thing, just without the weird murder-fest because of someone they'd know for like three days. Yet her own curiosity and misguided want to do good lead to Corypheus finding the Red Lyrium. 

Yes, she feels guilty, perhaps more-so because Varric is disappointed in her rather than the fact that many people either died or got hurt because of her. (Unintentionally I stress.) - The last words to the Inquisitor, the perceived threat, is light-hearted enough to brush off because I feel, or at least MY Inquisitor feels that it is simply a woman who is afraid that the man she cares for might die following the Inquisitor into a situation she has no control over. She's worried, it doesn't mean that she would ever act upon it.

 

You and I have varying definitions of "light-hearted." Her tone certainly didn't imply such.

 

Isabela's threat to cut off Hawke's balls if he hurt Merrill was somewhat in jest. Whether or not it's an empty threat, Bianca's warning feel like an attempt to intimidate the Inquisitor.

 

As I see it, all of her actions were intended to assuage her conscience for the part she played in giving Corypheus red lyrium. She hid the truth because she wanted to avoid blame.

 

But even though her mistakes demand an apology, instead she threatens the person trying to fix the world. I would have tossed her in a jail cell if the game had let me.

[Spirit Vanguard]

I feel like that as the Inquisitor, we're looking at Bianca at an outsiders perspective. We never get a chance to actually sit and talk with her; to be able to get to know the woman who has brought wondrous technology to a people that although they use and adore this tech, pretend she doesn't exist because of her caste. She has a bit of a sharp tongue, but that's to be expected of a friend of Varric, especially that she is closer to Varric, that I would argue, than Hawke is.

Bianca is in love with Varric; he is in love with her. Unfortunately, she had to marry someone she had no interest in for the benefit of her family. They're like Romeo and Juliet; the whole clan war thing, just without the weird murder-fest because of someone they'd know for like three days. Yet her own curiosity and misguided want to do good lead to Corypheus finding the Red Lyrium. 

Yes, she feels guilty, perhaps more-so because Varric is disappointed in her rather than the fact that many people either died or got hurt because of her. (Unintentionally I stress.) - The last words to the Inquisitor, the perceived threat, is light-hearted enough to brush off because I feel, or at least MY Inquisitor feels that it is simply a woman who is afraid that the man she cares for might die following the Inquisitor into a situation she has no control over. She's worried, it doesn't mean that she would ever act upon it.

 

I agree the lack of familiarity with her only weakens her character and their relationship -- or our perceptions of them. That's why she seemed so "Insert snarky person named Bianca here." Part of it also might be that, as a player, there's perhaps a certain expectation or concept of who "Bianca" was and then we meet her and... well.

That's I what was thinking: she's unhappy and angry that Varric is caught up in all this crap, which she unknowingly made worse, and now can't do more than what she did to fix it. "It's as right as I can make it." It isn't enough, and lashing out at the Inquisitor is just an extension of that frustration as if trying to blame us for something she did. It's a misplaced jab that just doesn't sit well, even if I know not to take it personally or that it isn't personal.

[Yermogi]

Bianca is in love with Varric; he is in love with her. Unfortunately, she had to marry someone she had no interest in for the benefit of her family. They're like Romeo and Juliet; the whole clan war thing, just without the weird murder-fest because of someone they'd know for like three days. Yet her own curiosity and misguided want to do good lead to Corypheus finding the Red Lyrium. 

Yes, she feels guilty, perhaps more-so because Varric is disappointed in her rather than the fact that many people either died or got hurt because of her. (Unintentionally I stress.) - The last words to the Inquisitor, the perceived threat, is light-hearted enough to brush off because I feel, or at least MY Inquisitor feels that it is simply a woman who is afraid that the man she cares for might die following the Inquisitor into a situation she has no control over. She's worried, it doesn't mean that she would ever act upon it.

I'm sorry, are we talking about the same Bianca? The Bianca who left Varric at the altar to marry someone who she didn't love, and then continued an emotional affair with a man who lived half a world away because she didn't have the guts to tell him they should both move on? Yeah, Bianca is horrible, and I'm just not going to see it any other way unless they choose to clarify a few things for us.

 

I don't see their romance as being at all Romeo and Juliet (which was in of itself a bad romance). Bianca was arranged by her family to marry someone. She decided to marry Varric instead. Then, right when they were supposed to get married, she changed her mind again and married the other guy. She then kept Varric on an emotional leash while they lived hundreds of miles away from each other, hardly ever seeing or speaking to each other, and then she comes back and claims to be deeply invested in his life. Yeah, I'm gonna call BS on that one.

 

Not for one moment do I believe that she "had to" marry her now-husband. She could have run away, and if she's as amazing as they made her out to be, she could have done it with ease. If Zevran, who was chased by the most lethal guild of assassins in Antiva and possibly elsewhere, could not only escape from the Crows but then return, kill a bunch of their operatives, and a guild master, plus countless others, then Bianca could have easily run away with Varric. She just chose not to. And yes, I know some of you are going to say "she did it for her family!" But from what little we know of her, she was causing ruckus and chaos that was detrimental to her family and to the clans, and if she had left she might have been doing them a favor. And if she DID choose to stay to keep them from being hurt, then why did she let Varric stay attached to her rather than telling him that it wasn't going to work? As far as I can tell, she's got her cake and she's eating it too. She's got a wealthy, intelligent husband who seems to treat her well, and a hunky guy on the side to hook up with once every 10 years, if he's lucky. That's not love. That's stupid on his part and enormously selfish and egotistical on hers.

 

She feels guilty? GOOD. She SHOULD. Varric told her not to tell ANYONE about the thaig (which he shouldn't have told anyone about to begin with), told her to leave it alone, leave it buried, and what does she do? She lies and says she won't do it, then proceeds to do exactly what he told her not to, and guess what! Now we have FREAKING RED TEMPLARS! Do you want mass murder, Bianca? Because this is how we get mass murder!

 

As far as I'm concerned, Bianca has no right to demand anything of the Inquisitor or Varric. She gave up the right to ask for anything when she used secret information to satisfy her own curiosity, the result of which was nothing short of horrific.

 

In closing: We may not see much of Bianca, but what we do see of her tells me that she is not only a bad character, but also a misguided and selfish person. Meanwhile, Varric is a fool for staying tied to a woman who is married to another man (and who married him after she told Varric that she'd marry him), who he also sees once or twice a decade if he's lucky. This story's ending is going to be predictably tragic, and the truly tragic thing about it is that Varric will realize it as such only when the final page is written, before he has a chance to change anything.

[phoray]

I'm sorry, are we talking about the same Bianca? The Bianca who left Varric at the altar to marry someone who she didn't love, and then continued an emotional affair with a man who lived half a world away because she didn't have the guts to tell him they should both move on? Yeah, Bianca is horrible, and I'm just not going to see it any other way unless they choose to clarify a few things for us.

 

I don't see their romance as being at all Romeo and Juliet (which was in of itself a bad romance). Bianca was arranged by her family to marry someone. She decided to marry Varric instead. Then, right when they were supposed to get married, she changed her mind again and married the other guy. She then kept Varric on an emotional leash while they lived hundreds of miles away from each other, hardly ever seeing or speaking to each other, and then she comes back and claims to be deeply invested in his life. Yeah, I'm gonna call BS on that one.

 

Not for one moment do I believe that she "had to" marry her now-husband. She could have run away, and if she's as amazing as they made her out to be, she could have done it with ease. If Zevran, who was chased by the most lethal guild of assassins in Antiva and possibly elsewhere, could not only escape from the Crows but then return, kill a bunch of their operatives, and a guild master, plus countless others, then Bianca could have easily run away with Varric. She just chose not to. And yes, I know some of you are going to say "she did it for her family!" But from what little we know of her, she was causing ruckus and chaos that was detrimental to her family and to the clans, and if she had left she might have been doing them a favor. And if she DID choose to stay to keep them from being hurt, then why did she let Varric stay attached to her rather than telling him that it wasn't going to work? As far as I can tell, she's got her cake and she's eating it too. She's got a wealthy, intelligent husband who seems to treat her well, and a hunky guy on the side to hook up with once every 10 years, if he's lucky. That's not love. That's stupid on his part and enormously selfish and egotistical on hers.

 

She feels guilty? GOOD. She SHOULD. Varric told her not to tell ANYONE about the thaig (which he shouldn't have told anyone about to begin with), told her to leave it alone, leave it buried, and what does she do? She lies and says she won't do it, then proceeds to do exactly what he told her not to, and guess what! Now we have FREAKING RED TEMPLARS? Do you want mass murder, Bianca? Because this is how we get mass murder!

 

As far as I'm concerned, Bianca has no right to demand anything of the Inquisitor or Varric. She gave up the right to ask for anything when she used secret information to satisfy her own curiosity, the result of which was nothing short of horrific.

 

In closing: We may not see much of Bianca, but what we do see of her tells me that she is not only a bad character, but also a misguided and selfish person. Meanwhile, Varric is a fool for staying tied to a woman who is married to another man (and who married him after she told Varric that she'd marry him), who he also sees once or twice a decade if he's lucky. This story's ending is going to be predictably tragic, and the truly tragic thing about it is that Varric will realize it as such only when the final page is written, before he has a chance to change anything.

 

*slow clap that speeds up* 

 

This is now my cannon. And as Gaider? said, Player Cannon trumps their writing.

[nightscrawl]

^ Where, and in what context did he say that?

[phoray]

^ Where, and in what context did he say that?

 

Oh gosh, I don't actually do Twitter or stuff like that. The only thing I can say is that I read a person on the forums linked to a place where one of the Bioware writers said that in response to people's upset? about the comics having Alistair be king. How that interfered with all the exiled/executed/warden Alistair world states. And they replied to the effect of, "Player Cannon trumps our writing." Implying that the comics weren't meant to be cannon.

 

The DA Universe is  just one epic Sliders episode.

 

ah, here a discussion with various links and quotes.

 

http://www.gamefaqs....rigins/69481587

 

Hmm. Reading all that, perhaps I paraphrased too strongly. Seems Player cannon may trump non game media but not what the games actually make happen. Like, blood magic Hawke hating on blood magic in DAI, for example. You got to head cannon some stuff there to make that work.

 

Still, I kind like my impression, so I'll stick with it.