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[AWDAJ]

When I first played Mass Effect I was blown away with how rich the universe they created was with particular detail to the races, governments, galactic history and human history not to forget the extra info on ships and technology.

 

 I want more of this in Andromeda but in relation to the last games I want to know what happened after ME3. I get that because of player choices blah blah blah I dont care, I want to know. What happened to the Normandy, the crew, did Liara become the Asari councilor or did Garrus get into the Spectres. Did the Krogan and Quarians prosper or did galactic governance collapse? 

 

Even if the devs dont want to ruin player choices, again, I'm sure they can find a way around it.

 

On the other hand I personally think that the 'Exodus' to Andromeda happened during the Reaper invasion, sort of a plan z scenario sort of thing should we lose the war. So that might be how the devs get away with not giving that information, Plus story wise it makes sense. Why would we leave the Milky Way after winning the war?

[SofaJockey]

I'd like to find a Codex entry on 'Sexuality in the Andromeda galaxy'...

 

(kidding) 

[Delacruz]

In regards to the old cast, i think the intention of Bioware is for us to speculate about what happens after the ending, If they thoroughly explained everything, there would be nothing left for the imagination, and after all Mass Effect is all about creating a unique and personal story.

 

Codex wise i would love that in addition to the standard codex stuff (species, tech, planets, organizations etc.) they would add sort of a collectible system with minor codex entries. So that when you get to a new planet you have a counter showing "you have unlocked 0/30 codex entries" and then you would have to maybe scan plants, monuments and animals etc. and each scan would unlock a short codex entry describing whatever you just scanned.

 

It should of course be completely optional and the reward could maybe be piece of a larger puzzle that would end up revealing some backstory of a ancient race or something like that. (sort of like Citadel: Scan the Keepers revealed information regarding the reaper cycles)

 

I think this would be an easy way to give completionists/achivement hunters like myself something to grind + it's a good incentive for people to really explore the nice new planets Bioware have made.

[Fredward]

I wanna know everything about the Andromeda Initiative, don't care whether the explanation has to come with a blatant retcon. I wanna know whether it's a council initiative or whether it's primarily human, if it's the latter what place other species will have, who the people are that were included on this ship and why, whether there's a broader/more detailed plan that "Go there, plant flag" etc.

[Element Zero]

OP, you're going to be a sad panda when you open that codex. That sort of thing, concerning post-ME3 info, is exactly what they've promised NOT to deliver.

As to what I'd like to see, I feel like they've always done a pretty good job with the Codex. ME3 might not have been as good as the first two, but I'd have to review it again to say that with confidence. At any rate, I want history; technological information; cultural information; etc...

I'd like Codex entries to expand and update as I make further discoveries. For instance, I might have a scholarly, but somewhat uninformed entry concerning the Remnant at the 50% stage of the game. Maybe by the 90% stage I've discovered quite a bit more. (Maybe not. That's just an example.)

I wouldn't mind the return of the same guy to read the entries, even if I often mute him and read it on my own. It's about the atmosphere and feeling it creates.

Games are always creating companion apps. They generally suck and I'm typically against them. I honestly hope MEA doesn't get one, but if it does get one, we should be able to read our current Codex entries on the app. That would be the first useful feature ever for such an app.

[SNascimento]

When it comes do Codex, less can be mean more.

Of course a lot of the codex entries in the trilogy adds to the overall lore of the series, but when you summarize an entire alien culture that has existed for 1000s of years to a two or three paragraph text, one might argue if it makes the lore better or worse.

When I replay ME1 it's sometimes jarring how some dialogues with some characters or even squadmates feel information dump, that really paints an race as a homogeneous block of people, with the same ideas and values. I believe if you throw away many of the codex entries from the trilogy the lore will actually become better. 

One example: there is a conversation with Liara is ME1 that she explains how the Asari (here treated as a homogeneous group) tackle relationships with other species. How they aim to have a "jouney not the destination" attitude and stuff. That's really obsute. A much more interesting and subtle way of relaying the same information actually happens in ME2. There is an Asari/Turian couple that buy a fish and they talk about that philosophy in a very natural way. Not only it's much more elegant, but it doesn't paint the Asari as a homogenous culture, as that is an individual example. Of course, we, as player, can theorize many other Asari also think that way, and indeed, other parts of the game will support that.

There are many other examples of this. The Mass Effect team knows how to build a wold, but I think if they want to further improve that, improving the codex is a way to do that. And part of that improves goes by not waiting to explain everything. 

[Probe Away]

I'm with you in wanting that OP, but they absolutely won't touch anything that was left open to player choice. Any of your companions (even Liara) could have died by the end of ME3. I was all for canonizing the destroy ending and setting ME4 in a reaper-less Milky Way, but they've gone this route to avoid canonizing anything and they won't backtrack for the sake of a few codex entries.

There's also the issue of timing. If the ark leaves prior to ME3 then the Andromeda pioneers won't know what happened during or after the reaper war. Adding codex entries along those lines would be pretty immersion-breaking.

I'm looking forward to codex info about the ark project and the technology used to travel to Andromeda. Someone posted above about how certain entries could be rewards that you find through exploring and/or completing side quests, which I think would be cool.

[The Twilight God]

From the Mass Effect Andromeda Codex: The Reapers were destroyed. The Qurians and Geth lived happily ever after and the Geth fixed their immune system problems so they can live anywhere without suits. The Krogan learned how to keep their pants on and control their population and became astute scholars. Queen Liara and The God Shepard had 33 children who all went on to be great demigod heroines AND HEROES because Shepard Space Jesus mental man juice was so divine that it produced the first masculine asari. I kid you not. Now not only did lesbians, but also gay men rejoiced across the galaxy as a new variety of "male" asari entered the sexual fetish game. Tali and Garrus became King and Queen of their respective peoples and joined them together into a single super duper space kingdom. Wrex is known as the "immortal krogan" and has yet to die. Grunt became the leader of clan Urdnot while Wrex became the Supreme Leader of all Krogandom taking on the name Genghis Wrex. The Geth finally made their giant Dyson Sphere and became a "Reaper". They, or rather It, traveled the galaxy showing off all its cool tech while condescendingly refusing to share said tech with irrational organics for their own safety. EDI and the Geth cured Joker and she rode him so hard his pelvis shattered anyway. Kaidan/Ashley died at the age of 280 having lived boring mediocre interchangeable lives. Who really gives a crap about the rest of them?

[UpUpAway]

Here's my idea... you import your ME3 file into ME:A and it generates a few codex entries that match your choices.  Those entries have no bearing on the story and are never referred to by anyone in the ME:A (because those characters have no idea what happened because they were in stasis travelling to another galaxy), but the players can read them in order to comfort themselves that what they decided would happen in ME3 was indeed what happened. 

[Element Zero]

Here's my idea... you import your ME3 file into ME:A and it generates a few codex entries that match your choices.  Those entries have no bearing on the story and are never referred to by anyone in the ME:A (because those characters have no idea what happened because they were in stasis travelling to another galaxy), but the players can read them in order to comfort themselves that what they decided would happen in ME3 was indeed what happened. 

This won't work. Some nerd won't be satisfied by this simple pleasure. She will will bring her happy tale of "cannon (sic)" to the BioWare Forums. The Forums will be set alight with the fire of burning nerd rage, as thousands of nerds discover their own "cannon (sic)" has been violated in the sanctity of someone else's private home. (This is unacceptable, for obvious, important reasons.)

The forums, burning hot with rage, will organize protests lasting many months. The rage will spill across the Internet. Cupcakes full of spite and malice will be baked and sent out across national boundaries. EA will reclaim the "most hated" moniker, despite the fact that they merely sell games. BioWare will be burned to the ground by the flames of this righteous nerd fury, never to recover.

As you can see, your Codex idea must never be allowed to happen.

[UpUpAway]

This won't work. Some nerd won't be satisfied by this simple pleasure. She will will bring her happy tale of "cannon (sic)" to the BioWare Forums. The Forums will be set alight with the fire of burning nerd rage, as thousands of nerds discover their own "cannon (sic)" has been violated in the sanctity of someone else's private home. (This is unacceptable, for obvious, important reasons.)

The forums, burning hot with rage, will organize protests lasting many months. The rage will spill across the Internet. Cupcakes full of spite and malice will be baked and sent out across national boundaries. EA will reclaim the "most hated" moniker, despite the fact that they merely sell games. BioWare will be burned to the ground by the flames of this righteous nerd fury, never to recover.

As you can see, your Codex idea must never be allowed to happen.

 

In a way, though, it already did.  The codex entries would change slightly in ME2/3 depending on whether or not you imported a save where the council was destroyed vs. saved, etc.

 

That said, I'm not optimistic that they would do such a thing for ME:A because I'm fairly certain that the premise is that the people who started the journey in stasis left before the end of ME3 and they are completely unaware and unaffected by the events there.  To put in a codex entry would not only be irrelevant to their current story, it would reflect knowledge that the characters themselves don't have and don't have access to.

 

My real point with the suggestion is that the player already knows what happened... as they decided in ME3 and as set out in the EC.  They don't need a codex entry about the Milky Way.

 

The ME:A characters' motivation for leaving the Milky Way will either be 1) the same as mountain climbers - because they can and because it's there; or 2) because they wanted to get out of Dodge BEFORE the Reaper Gang arrived in town.

[Obliviousmiss]

All the things.

[Felps Cross]

Everything.

[Kiera]

MOSTLY: what in *** **** happened to Shep and Milky Way and CANON ending. (it aint gonna happen but fun to imagine)

[KotorEffect3]

This won't work. Some nerd won't be satisfied by this simple pleasure. She will will bring her happy tale of "cannon (sic)" to the BioWare Forums. The Forums will be set alight with the fire of burning nerd rage, as thousands of nerds discover their own "cannon (sic)" has been violated in the sanctity of someone else's private home. (This is unacceptable, for obvious, important reasons.)

The forums, burning hot with rage, will organize protests lasting many months. The rage will spill across the Internet. Cupcakes full of spite and malice will be baked and sent out across national boundaries. EA will reclaim the "most hated" moniker, despite the fact that they merely sell games. BioWare will be burned to the ground by the flames of this righteous nerd fury, never to recover.

As you can see, your Codex idea must never be allowed to happen.

I have to admit I laughed out loud when I read that.

[Arcian]

From the Mass Effect Andromeda Codex: The Reapers were destroyed. The Qurians and Geth lived happily ever after and the Geth fixed their immune system problems so they can live anywhere without suits. The Krogan learned how to keep their pants on and control their population and became astute scholars. Queen Liara and The God Shepard had 33 children who all went on to be great demigod heroines AND HEROES because Shepard Space Jesus mental man juice was so divine that it produced the first masculine asari. I kid you not. Now not only did lesbians, but also gay men rejoiced across the galaxy as a new variety of "male" asari entered the sexual fetish game. Tali and Garrus became King and Queen of their respective peoples and joined them together into a single super duper space kingdom. Wrex is known as the "immortal krogan" and has yet to die. Grunt became the leader of clan Urdnot while Wrex became the Supreme Leader of all Krogandom taking on the name Genghis Wrex. The Geth finally made their giant Dyson Sphere and became a "Reaper". They, or rather It, traveled the galaxy showing off all its cool tech while condescendingly refusing to share said tech with irrational organics for their own safety. EDI and the Geth cured Joker and she rode him so hard his pelvis shattered anyway. Kaidan/Ashley died at the age of 280 having lived boring mediocre interchangeable lives. Who really gives a crap about the rest of them?

Who went rinkle-tinkle in your morning cereal?

[The Twilight God]

Who went rinkle-tinkle in your morning cereal?

Kai Leng ate all my cereal!!! Thanks for bringing up that terrible memory. He just left it there, a bowl of cereal milk, with two whole empty boxes of Raisin Bran. He took out all the raisin, but left the crumbs in the bottom of the bag. The jerk!!