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Credits are not useful. Even if they are, they would be used strictly as a resource. In the same manner that dollars are used for their paper properties in my example. Honest question: do you think astronauts use money on the ISS to exchange things or they share everything?


Does this ISS have FTL, contact with other galactic species, AI's, and other advances seen in this fictional setting?

Credits as a theoretical economical standard works for me; sure beats busy work.

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And what is the purpose of these galactic chips? Exchange. What is the purpose of money? Exchange. Therefore, credits are money. The rest doesn't matter, it might as well be called Bitcoin. Nobody would need those galactic chips if you can't use them in exchange for something. It won't prevent the protagonist from work, trust me. Even if you have a billion dollars and then end up on an island with native tribes, you will only use this money for making fires and as a toilet paper.

 

That's assuming that the native Andromeda species will be on a tech level equivalent to the native tribes.

 

Any half way technologically advanced civilization should have some form of currency to better facilitate trade than relying on the barter system. Assuming the natives are at least capable of space flight without our help, they should have had a currency system in place for hundreds of years.


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I was pretty pleased to see the updated look. It's still the classic Battle Tuna, but they've made it look a bit better. I hope it is effective. I'd like to use it for more than the first hour of the game.


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Does this ISS have FTL, contact with other galactic species, AI's, and other advances seen in this fictional setting?

And what does this have to do with the use of credits exactly? Both ISS and Ark are similar in the way that individuals from different cultures are working together to achieve common goals and it requires cooperation and common use of resources.

 

 

That's assuming that the native Andromeda species will be on a tech level equivalent to the native tribes.

 

Any half way technologically advanced civilization should have some form of currency to better facilitate trade than relying on the barter system. Assuming the natives are at least capable of space flight without our help, they should have had a currency system in place for hundreds of years.

That's assuming that the technologically advanced civilization needs those forms of currency. They might have replicators for all we know and have everything in abundance. Or they just value completely different things. There was one episode of Doctor Who where one species didn't use any money but instead valued personal items (that have some emotional value or a reminder of something). That is a great example of worldbuilding. Anything can be possible in Andromeda.



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The idea I think was 1) that Cerberus was broke after the SR2, and 2) the Normandy didn't actually need weapons, because it could fabricate them. It needed the raw materials to actually develop them.


Yes, I get the idea. It was implemented via a mind-numbing mini-game, though. That's why I said I started editing in mineral resources; so I'd be free to ignore planet scanning.

If you read my suggestions for MEA, I support the concept 100%. I just hated the execution.

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It's okay. There are better options, though.

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The idea I think was 1) that Cerberus was broke after the SR2, and 2) the Normandy didn't actually need weapons, because it could fabricate them. It needed the raw materials to actually develop them.


That makes sense, considering the fact that 6 months later, they have a navy that rivals all major governments with which they can stage multiple military operations at once, while sending whole military forces to kill some ex-cerberus scientists and their families because 'evil.'

Hang on, that's not right...

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That's assuming that the technologically advanced civilization needs those forms of currency. They might have replicators for all we know and have everything in abundance. Or they just value completely different things. There was one episode of Doctor Who where one species didn't use any money but instead valued personal items (that have some emotional value or a reminder of something). That is a great example of worldbuilding. Anything can be possible in Andromeda.

 

Replicators is about the only way to negate currency if they want to use them.

 

Doctor Who is great but not as hard sci-fi as Mass Effect is. A society where people only traded personal items simply wouldn't work very well because what happens if you have nothing that somebody else wants, but that somebody else has something you need to survive?



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That's assuming that the technologically advanced civilization needs those forms of currency. They might have replicators for all we know and have everything in abundance. Or they just value completely different things. There was one episode of Doctor Who where one species didn't use any money but instead valued personal items (that have some emotional value or a reminder of something). That is a great example of worldbuilding. Anything can be possible in Andromeda.


That's assuming Bioware actually wants to do some world building this time.
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That makes sense, considering the fact that 6 months later, they have a navy that rivals all major governments with which they can stage multiple military operations at once, while sending whole military forces to kill some ex-cerberus scientists and their families because 'evil.'
Hang on, that's not right...

Exactly. The "Cerberus was broke" explanation just doesn't work. As I mentioned before, they were still running as many as a dozen other operations, according to EDI, at the time of ME2. Then, six months later, we learn they've built the Imperial Fleet.

They had plenty of money to pay for my weapons upgrades (at vendors' shops) and to spring for the needed mineral resources to properly outfit the team. The minigame and economy were tacked on because it's expected of an RPG. That doesn't mean they made sense.

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Replicators is about the only way to negate currency if they want to use them.

 

Doctor Who is great but not as hard sci-fi as Mass Effect is. A society where people only traded personal items simply wouldn't work very well because what happens if you have nothing that somebody else wants, but that somebody else has something you need to survive?

Or a self-sufficient society with an economy that is based on efficient use of resources and heavy use of automatic labour. When all the jobs are taken by robots, the whole purpose of money becomes obsolete because people can't "earn" money. Something like techno-communism with robot workers.

It is just one example of creating something new. I agree that there is room for improvement and making up a plausible alternative. Not every alien society should be exactly like a western human society where capitalism doesn't have a working alternative.
 



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This ship has probably sailed but I'd like weapons that seem like natural evolutions of the weapons we have right now.

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I am really curious if in the new Galaxy we'll have to "buy" our weapons, armor, and upgrades? it never made sense to me in the other 3 games, I can see one buying something unusual in the other 3 games but to have military units buying their gear is just silly, and since (at first anyway) they are all on board a self-contained ship (Ark?) it doesn't make sense since you come with what you have and make due with what you find.

 

Makes more sense to have to go out and mine for resources and have a "military science" type group create ones gear and over time upgrades are made as one explores and finds bits and bobs.

 

That is what I think they are going to do, make us search for resources AKA DAI crafting, add research cost for upgrades/new stuff like in ME2 and voila you have a rather robust system for making/upgrading all of your weapons and armour. Possibly there might be an option to buy from the locals for X amount of whatever resource. 



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This ship has probably sailed but I'd like weapons that seem like natural evolutions of the weapons we have right now.

 

In other words, HALO guns?

 

MA5B fired the 7.62x51mm NATO cartridge, the SRS99D-2 fires a modified 14.5mm (KPVT in real life) round, and so on.



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And what does this have to do with the use of credits exactly? Both ISS and Ark are similar in the way that individuals from different cultures are working together to achieve common goals and to it requires cooperation and common use of resources. 
 
That's assuming that the technologically advanced civilization needs those forms of currency. They might have replicators for all we know and have everything in abundance. Or they just value completely different things. There was one episode of Doctor Who where one species didn't use any money but instead valued personal items (that have some emotional value or a reminder of something). That is a great example of worldbuilding. Anything can be possible in Andromeda.


It means that I do not care if we do not use credits yet; ME does, and hope it remains in the next game.

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That makes sense, considering the fact that 6 months later, they have a navy that rivals all major governments with which they can stage multiple military operations at once, while sending whole military forces to kill some ex-cerberus scientists and their families because 'evil.'

Hang on, that's not right...

 

Precisely, they can't spare any more resources on a crazy suicide group. Better to use them to build the biggest, meanest and best fleet and army in the galaxy!!  ;)

 

So it all makes sense. B)



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It means that I do not care if we do not use credits yet; ME does, and hope it remains in the next game.

Yes, our money is made of paper and is called differently but otherwise it's the same thing. It's like saying "Our society has dollars/euros/bitcoin so I want people to use dollars/euros/bitcoin in space and other planets even if it doesn't make sense from the practical sense". But if you don't care then I guess we can agree to disagree. I just don't see how Volus economy would be effective in Andromeda.



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In other words, HALO guns?

MA5B fired the 7.62x51mm NATO cartridge, the SRS99D-2 fires a modified 14.5mm (KPVT in real life) round, and so on.


Sorta, yeah. Including in actual aesthetics. You can kind of see that in offbeat budget titles like binary domain.