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[Donquijote and 59 others]

Into removing the taint/calling(tbh i didn't even understood what they want to do).

 

Why they went to the west what's there?A land untouched by the blight doesn't necessarily mean a cure since we know that lands that are the titans domains tend to repels darkspawns who avoid such places.

[Abyss108]

It was only written as an excuse for why the Warden didn't turn up in Inquisition so people wouldn't complain, so I'm not convinced it'll ever be mentioned again.

[vertigomez]

Depends how relevant curing the Calling is going to be to all this Warden/Archdemon/ending the Blights business. You'd think they'd talk to Fiona or something. Maybe they just wanted a vacation.

[PapaCharlie9]

Me to my HoF:

[German Soldier]

It was only written as an excuse for why the Warden didn't turn up in Inquisition so people wouldn't complain, so I'm not convinced it'll ever be mentioned again.

I'm starting to believe that this is the most likely explanation,since DAI was in part featured in Ferelden the writers needed to find something to remove the warden from the plot for all the years required for DAI thus until Trespasser,for what i recall this quest ended apparently in Trespasser.

[German Soldier]

You'd think they'd talk to Fiona or something...

If the Inq did not killed her it may be possible but even if she is alive what does she know?

[vertigomez]

If the Inq did not killed her it may be possible but even if she is alive what does she know?

Well, she's not Tainted anymore. It seems a better bet than wandering vaguely westward in the hopes of finding... something(??).

[German Soldier]

Well, she's not Tainted anymore. It seems a better bet than wandering vaguely westward in the hopes of finding... something(??).

In that i agree with you even if Fiona doesn't know how it was possible she can at least remember the events that surrounded her cure,

I'm not sure why the warden went into the west instead to talk with her.....

[phoray]

If the Inq did not killed her it may be possible but even if she is alive what does she know?

 

 

Well, she's not Tainted anymore. It seems a better bet than wandering vaguely westward in the hopes of finding... something(??).

 

 

Fiona has already been talked to and questioned heavily by the order in Weisshaupt; she was there for months after her taint disappeared and couldn't give them an answer --

 

 

Spoiler

long enough to have a baby, obviously, since she left Weishaupt on her way to the Circle and delivered said baby (Alistair) to King Maric.

 

The only thing I'm grumpy about regarding this story is that Alistair still believes, a decade later, that he is the result of a coupling where King MArric took advantage of a servant girl. Instead of, you know, the totally consensual and loving one nighter between Marric and a Warden MAge. I see writing that implies that Marric cheated on his wife for Alistair, but seriosuly, she was dead 1-2 years be the time Marric slept with Fiona.

 

And it's implied that Calenhad blood of the baby healed Fiona of the taint. But it doesn't make sense, because Alistair is a Warden and that same blood should have kept him from becoming a Warden. but whatever!

[thats1evildude]

Likely they'll find a cure, but it may only work for one person.

Or they'll find a cure that works for everyone, and if the Hero is dead, the Wardens will figure out their own cure independent of the Hero of Ferelden.

[vertigomez]

Fiona has already been talked to and questioned heavily by the order in Weisshaupt; she was there for months after her taint disappeared and couldn't give them an answer --

Spoiler

long enough to have a baby, obviously, since she left Weishaupt on her way to the Circle and delivered said baby (Alistair) to King Maric.
 
The only thing I'm grumpy about regarding this story is that Alistair still believes, a decade later, that he is the result of a coupling where King MArric took advantage of a servant girl. Instead of, you know, the totally consensual and loving one nighter between Marric and a Warden MAge. I see writing that implies that Marric cheated on his wife for Alistair, but seriosuly, she was dead 1-2 years be the time Marric slept with Fiona.
 
And it's implied that Calenhad blood of the baby healed Fiona of the taint. But it doesn't make sense, because Alistair is a Warden and that same blood should have kept him from becoming a Warden. but whatever!

It's been ages since I read The Calling. Didn't Fiona get horribly ill or exhausted or something, and when she woke up the Taint was gone..? My memory's faulty but I thought it was something like that. In which case, I propose Sweat Lodges! Sweat out all that nasty darkspawn blood, feel good as new...

"Calenhad blood" is the most nonsensical reason I've ever heard. y biowhar, y?

Poor Alistair doesn't even know Goldanna's not his sister.

[thats1evildude]

I do not know where the Calenhad blood theory came from, but it's absolute nonsense. The Architect's magic cured Fiona!

[nightscrawl]

I kind of want my Warden to just die already.

[nightscrawl]

Fiona has already been talked to and questioned heavily by the order in Weisshaupt; she was there for months after her taint disappeared and couldn't give them an answer --
 
 

Spoiler

long enough to have a baby, obviously, since she left Weishaupt on her way to the Circle and delivered said baby (Alistair) to King Maric.
 
The only thing I'm grumpy about regarding this story is that Alistair still believes, a decade later, that he is the result of a coupling where King MArric took advantage of a servant girl. Instead of, you know, the totally consensual and loving one nighter between Marric and a Warden MAge. I see writing that implies that Marric cheated on his wife for Alistair, but seriosuly, she was dead 1-2 years be the time Marric slept with Fiona.
 
And it's implied that Calenhad blood of the baby healed Fiona of the taint. But it doesn't make sense, because Alistair is a Warden and that same blood should have kept him from becoming a Warden. but whatever!

 
Where is it implied? It's a fan theory that I support, but I've never seen any evidence to support it (or contradict it).

And yeah, that bit about his father is a drag. And also you know, because he thinks he doesn't have any family left. =/

 

It's been ages since I read The Calling. Didn't Fiona get horribly ill or exhausted or something, and when she woke up the Taint was gone..? My memory's faulty but I thought it was something like that. In which case, I propose Sweat Lodges! Sweat out all that nasty darkspawn blood, feel good as new...

"Calenhad blood" is the most nonsensical reason I've ever heard. y biowhar, y?

Poor Alistair doesn't even know Goldanna's not his sister.

It's more about the dragon properties revealed in the comics, not related to Calendad the man specifically because he was so awesome or whatever.

The only reason I support it is because there really isn't any other explanation. Both she and Duncan (and Maric?) got the amulets. Duncan escaped its ill effects because of a dagger he stole. Once the amulet was taken away later on, she recovered as normal except that she was now also pregnant. Other than that, all three were under the same conditions for the same amount of time.

Perhaps it was the combination of amulet + pregnancy, since the process of the taint was sped up. Perhaps if she had just been her normally tainted self, without the amulet, she might not have gotten pregnant or become cured. This would also account for the fact of Alistair becoming a Grey Warden. Also, Alistair is still young (31 in DAI). For all we know, his blood very well may protect him and he will NEVER hear his calling, but still maintain the tainted blood until he dies from old age.


It may be lame, but it's the only thing there is.

Modifié par nightscrawl, 19 juin 2016 - 06:32 .

[thats1evildude]

Maric did not get an amulet since he wasn't a Warden. The purpose of the amulets was allegedly to hide the Wardens from the darkspawn, since the darkspawn could sense them. (While they may have done that, their true purpose was to accelerate the taint in the Wardens' bodies.)

[Dai Grepher]

Yes, the Hero will find the cure. A Cousland wouldn't have left his or her throne unless the quest presented a strong possibility of being true, and numerous types of Heroes wouldn't return until being successful, especially the dwarven Heroes.

It also makes sense for BioWare to introduce a cure for the taint, seeing as how the Grey Warden Order is starting to fracture anyway, and since griffons seem to be on the verge of making a comeback. The Cure could be what revolutionizes the Warden order into something truly worthy of honor and respect. The Cure could also bring back the dwarven empire.

Of course, that all depends if the cure is something that can be replicated or administered at will. It's possible that cure exists only in a certain part of the world and cannot be moved. Like some mystical location with runes and structures that draw out ailments through magic.

It's also possible that the cure comes with a price. It was said that Imshael could remove red lyrium for a price, which involved an action one of the red templars could not bring himself to commit. However, this may have just been Imshael messing with that one templar. What he wanted him to do may have been completely unrelated to the red lyrium extraction process.

In any case, I think it would be pathetic for BioWare to back out of this by saying the mission ended with the cure being just a myth. The storyline since Origins has been leading to the people of Thedas, the Wardens in particular, learning the true nature of the taint and its connection to the Black City. Finding a cure would provide more clues.

[nightscrawl]

Maric did not get an amulet since he wasn't a Warden. The purpose of the amulets was allegedly to hide the Wardens from the darkspawn. (While they may have done that, their true purpose was to accelerate the taint in their bodies.)

 

Thanks. I think it could be a combination of several factors, at the right time, all leading Fiona to be cured, not just that Maric's magical sperm infused with Calenhad dragon blood cured her of the taint.

[thats1evildude]

The big problem with the Dragon Blood theory (besides the fact it's kinda silly) is that Alistair is a Warden and can hear the Calling.

 

I don't know if the Architect's magic curing the taint was an accident or a deliberate effect, but in my mind there's no doubt that removing the amulet made Fiona immune to the Blight.

[nightscrawl]

^ But I just said a combination of factors...

 

 

[edit]

For all we know, if the female Warden were to wear such an amulet and suffer its effects, she might also be able to be impregnated by Alistair and eventually be cured. But again, that would only work on the female Warden, or any female Warden, under those circumstances. Alistair is male, so he's obviously not going to be impregnated anytime soon. Having Calenhad blood doesn't necessarily mean he is immune.

Modifié par nightscrawl, 19 juin 2016 - 06:52 .

[thats1evildude]

NO COMBINATION. ALL THE AMULET.

[nightscrawl]

^ You don't know that... This is all theory and conjecture.

[AlanC9]

Yes, the Hero will find the cure. A Cousland wouldn't have left his or her throne unless the quest presented a strong possibility of being true, and numerous types of Heroes wouldn't return until being successful, especially the dwarven Heroes.

Of course, the Warden could just die.

[phoray]

 
Where is it implied? It's a fan theory that I support, but I've never seen any evidence to support it (or contradict it).

And yeah, that bit about his father is a drag. And also you know, because he thinks he doesn't have any family left. =/

 

It's more about the dragon properties revealed in the comics, not related to Calendad the man specifically because he was so awesome or whatever.

The only reason I support it is because there really isn't any other explanation. Both she and Duncan (and Maric?) got the amulets. Duncan escaped its ill effects because of a dagger he stole. Once the amulet was taken away later on, she recovered as normal except that she was now also pregnant. Other than that, all three were under the same conditions for the same amount of time.

Perhaps it was the combination of amulet + pregnancy, since the process of the taint was sped up. Perhaps if she had just been her normally tainted self, without the amulet, she might not have gotten pregnant or become cured. This would also account for the fact of Alistair becoming a Grey Warden. Also, Alistair is still young (31 in DAI). For all we know, his blood very well may protect him and he will NEVER hear his calling, but still maintain the tainted blood until he dies from old age.


It may be lame, but it's the only thing there is.

 

But the amulet was actually speeding up the taint. Fiona was covered in taint spots when she sexed Maric and it was just as bad, if not worse, when the mission was over and she returned to Weishaupt- fully expecting that she would die. Part of the reason she left Maric was she was like "I'm gonna rot away in front of you and then go to the Calling. Let's part now."

 

If it were magical sperm, she wouldn't have been worse days later. and why would the removal of an amulet that sped up the taint make her cured of taint upon it's removal- that is what would not make sense to me.

 

So, to me, it was all pregnancy related.

[nightscrawl]

^ Ah yes, but it is known that tainted Wardens have an extremely difficult time conceiving. It could be that Maric's special sperm allowed her to become pregnant in the first place.

 

 

... Yes, I am aware of how ridiculous this all sounds. But as I said, it's all we've got.

[vertigomez]

I appreciate all the explanations but I think I'm even more confused now. /SMRT

I kind of want my Warden to just die already.

Of course, the Warden could just die.

Ditto. The only reason mine's not dead is that I want Kieran to exist, and that can only happen if someone does the DR or you play a male Warden who didn't notice the broken sheep intestine condom.