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[phoray]

^ Ah yes, but it is known that tainted Wardens have an extremely difficult time conceiving. It could be that Maric's special sperm allowed her to become pregnant in the first place.

 

 

... Yes, I am aware of how ridiculous this all sounds. But as I said, it's all we've got.

 

 

Oh, how I am laughing right now. 

 

I didn't know that we needed a magical reason for Marric's sperm to work. 

 

In the end, Calenhad supposedly got his powers from drinking dragon's blood, if we are to believe the Qunari. But then we're pretty sure that Qunari can be tainted, so having dragon's blood in your veins doesn't necessarily mean anti taint. It could be that this blood does different things in different people. It sure hasn't given Alistair any particular special powers.

 

Alistair's special power is being adorable. 

[thats1evildude]

Considering its wondrous properties, one has to wonder why Alistair's enchanted baby batter hasn't healed or impregnated the lady Warden yet.

[phoray]

Considering its wondrous properties, one has to wonder why Alistair's enchanted baby batter hasn't healed or impregnated the lady Warden yet.

Ah man, you're killing me. ROFL

I'm going with my thought that it does different things in different people. So, Fiona's special take from exposure to the blood is anti taint and it only works for her.

[DarkKnightHolmes]

Hopefully never. Not everyone gets a happy ending.

[phoray]

I get why my Warden would go after the Taint Cure. But there are only two more archdemons to kill; unless we think the last two will be worse, I think the major concerns of world ending destruction are pretty low now. Yeah. There will be a lot of death but the world won't end. And then Wardens won't be needed at all. That job will end in. Like. 500 years or less.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

I think a cure will probably be found, because stories rarely throw extended side stories like this in for nothing. It's not just the Warden and his search being mentioned now, it's Fiona and Avernus, including the mention of Avernus's work in DA2, as well as continued commentary on the issue throughout the games and extended materials. I feel like they've sunk too much into this for it to just go away. I don't know if the Warden will actually be the one to discover it, but I think it will probably be discovered eventually. It probably won't be strongly tied to the Warden, since their continued existence is on shaky ground. Maybe it will be something a future protagonist discovers with a possible DA:I Hawke-like assist from the Warden in world states where it applies.  

[VivainaDX]

Now I'm sad I haven't read this book, but then I haven't picked up a novel in years. That would be the same Architect from Awakening, right? Does it give you a better idea of his origins, activities and motivations? I always just kill him because I don't make deals with darkspawn...usually. 

 

I do think that there would be a cure for the blight but you would have to find the information on it in the fade, from old healer notes or something that were abandoned when the veil went up. Now whether it's the HoF or someone else that finds them, I couldn't say.

[phoray]

Now I'm sad I haven't read this book, but then I haven't picked up a novel in years. That would be the same Architect from Awakening, right? Does it give you a better idea of his origins, activities and motivations? I always just kill him because I don't make deals with darkspawn...usually. 

 

I do think that there would be a cure for the blight but you would have to find the information on it in the fade, from old healer notes or something that were abandoned when the veil went up. Now whether it's the HoF or someone else that finds them, I couldn't say.

 

The Calling has the Architect, Fiona, and Marric in it, with Fiona "cured" at the end for mysterious reasons. Yes, it does give you a good pulse on his origins, activities, and motivations.

 

The comics have the thing about Calenhad supposedly drinking dragon's blood and also tells you how, uh, Marric's been hanging the last 2 decades.

[German Soldier]

Thanks. I think it could be a combination of several factors, at the right time, all leading Fiona to be cured, not just that Maric's magical sperm infused with Calenhad dragon blood cured her of the taint.

This is something that may be related
to her elven blood or body rather than Maric,she was afterall for what i recall the only elf with the amulet.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

If the Architect was spared, it seems likely that the Warden would have consulted with him about a cure and about what happened with Fiona. He'd be a much better source than she would, herself. Nathaniel mentioned in DA2 that the Wardens are on friendly terms with him and in communication, if you do spare him. If not him, it's possible they've found another of the Magisters Sidereal. It seems like they're the best hope for answers about this right now, if any of them are at least as coherent and cooperative as The Architect can potentially be. It's obviously also really dangerous to pursue them, though, especially for a Grey Warden. The Architect didn't show any interest in (possibly no knowledge of?) controling Warden minds, but we know it's a legitimate concern now. 

[Akiza]

The quest is over by Trespasser so this mean
that they failed or that they succeed.
Me i think they failed...

[Dai Grepher]

I get why my Warden would go after the Taint Cure. But there are only two more archdemons to kill; unless we think the last two will be worse, I think the major concerns of world ending destruction are pretty low now. Yeah. There will be a lot of death but the world won't end. And then Wardens won't be needed at all. That job will end in. Like. 500 years or less.

Just because all the old gods die doesn't mean the Darkspawn die. The Darkspawn will still be around, and that means the broodmothers too.

What happens when the Darkspawn no longer have any song to dig for? Where will they go? It will be an all-out assault on the remaining dwarven thaigs and the surface. I think that's what Solas was alluding to in banter with Blackwall.

So a cure for the taint, if it can be administered at will, could help the dwarves retake thaigs and hold them. Humans could also help in this since the surface would be next if the dwarves fall.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

Just because all the old gods die doesn't mean the Darkspawn die. The Darkspawn will still be around, and that means the broodmothers too.

What happens when the Darkspawn no longer have any song to dig for? Where will they go? It will be an all-out assault on the remaining dwarven thaigs and the surface. I think that's what Solas was alluding to in banter with Blackwall.

So a cure for the taint, if it can be administered at will, could help the dwarves retake thaigs and hold them. Humans could also help in this since the surface would be next if the dwarves fall.

One of the main "needs" of the Wardens is that only they have been able to kill an Archedemon so far, but I do think their resilience to the taint would most likely be incredibly valuable for any large scale fighting against Darkspawn. I think they likely would be useful even after the Old Gods were gone. 

 

One thing to consider, in Awakening the Darkspawn became a problem even when it was expected they would retreat once the Archdemon was gone because they were cut off from the song. When The Architect broke that, they changed and became more coherent and able to organize for their own causes. If the Old Gods were gone, would that be the end of the song for them? Would they all become like the Darkspawn that had undergone The Architect's ritual? Or does the song actually come from somewhere else, like the Black City, the assumed seat of the taint? Misdirection has been pretty common for the "traditionally held beliefs" so far, so I'm not sure, but I doubt when the Blights are over the Darkspawn will "just stop". 

[Lunatica]

Didn't Gaider said that spirits may block the calling?

What cure the wardens need beyond that?

[Donquijote and 59 others]

I kind of want my Warden to just die already.

If the warden die i can't start the "bring back HoF threads" i need to do that at least 4 times per year.

[Donquijote and 59 others]

Yes, the Hero will find the cure. 

 

The quest in Trespasser is over but it was not stated to be successful and considering how the clue was of Morrigan which is less knowledgeable than Flemeth who said to not know how to remove the taint to Aveline....

Legends says that something like that was only done by Mythal (the full essence) to Andruil.

[Tidus]

He/she will succeed and will show up again (if B-W is wise) in a modest price DLC much like Leliana's story.

 

Why a optional DLC?

 

That gives the players a option those of us that wants the warden to return can buy the DLC those that don't won't buy it. B-W makes money in the process while some players will moan, groan and bellyache about the return even though they have the option not to buy the DLC..

[jlb524]

I thought the Warden found it by Trespasser. Leliana mentions my Warden and doesn't say 'she's still tainted ' so I assumed.

[German Soldier]

I thought the Warden found it by Trespasser. Leliana mentions my Warden and doesn't say 'she's still tainted ' so I assumed.

Leliana said nothing which can be more indicative of the fact that  the quest failed rather than the contrary.

He/she will succeed and will show up again (if B-W is wise) in a modest price DLC much like Leliana's story.

 

Why a optional DLC?

 

That gives the players a option those of us that wants the warden to return can buy the DLC those that don't won't buy it. B-W makes money in the process while some players will moan, groan and bellyache about the return even though they have the option not to buy the DLC..

Yes because Bioware will make a Dlc for a small group of players and waste money.......of course...not going to happen.

[Domakir]

I'd love the warden to succeed and find the cure but... will he/she? I highly doubt it unfortunately. Too much trouble for BioWare.

It could be an option in the DA Keep and that way everyone is happy (more or less) but it's more difficult than just add that option.

[Aulis Vaara]

There's always a living Warden, either the hero of Ferelden or the Orlesian warden commander. Just give him/her a throat wound to make him/her mute, import the race (in case of ultimate sacrifice, let the player choose) and give him/her one of those dwarven translators who accompany the silent sisters.

Then, give us a badass deep roads dungeon crawl where the Warden helps you find the truth behind the taint, but dies in the process. Killed by whoever or whatever is behind the taint. Bonus points if this is the prologue and you then have to assemble a team to go kill what the most legendary warden (or his Orlesian replacement) cannot.

Boom, instant awesome.

[VivainaDX]

Is it a sure thing that the Black Palace in the fade used to be the Golden City or could the Golden City be sealed off, away from the fade and Thedas? To me it seems more logical to link the Black Palace to the Primeival Thaig and The Golden City to some place like Skyhold. Would it be too simplistic to say the cure for the blight could be something as easy as discovering a white/clear form of lyrium? A pure form of ethereal plasma, that can only be produced on a kind of spiritual plain that neither the fade nor the mortal world can reach? If tainted lyrium is red, why can't blue lyrium be neutral and colored that way because it is formed in the mortal realm, after the veil 'went up' , while clear/white lyrium is the matter all life began from? 

[Daerog]

For Fiona's case, there are more variables than Maric's sperm and the amulet.

-While the only Warden survivors were Duncan and Fiona (possibly the Avvar guy), Duncan had the special dagger that countered blight magic, so Fiona was the only one to take (only) the amulet and refuse the Architect's final spell.
-She is an elf. Elves are very unique compared to the other races. (I have a separate theory that lyrium tatoos only work on elves, because why aren't more people getting magic hand powers?)
-She is a mage. Mages can manipulate reality, and FE Remille has shown that any mage, Warden or not, can do blight magic as well. Perhaps Fiona dabbled a bit into what she saw Remille do and accidently cured herself due to a combination of variables.

There are ways for Wardens to avoid the Calling. A mage could try to learn the art of soul jumping, or one could try to find a way to become a golem.

I would be disappointed if they remove the Calling from the Wardens. It'll remove the drama. I'm still waiting on more blight magic, let's add more to the Blight Story, not start taking away from it.

[Tidus]

German Soldier, It could happen.  The forum is just a  teeny tiny drop in the water with the same-o same-o names replying in the threads, so,BW could make a DLC if there is a market. If BW sold  80,000 at $5.00 each that's $400,000 dollars..No small change. Seeing there are millions of gamers world wide that figure could escalate into the millions.

[Captain Wiseass]

They're not going to charge just $5 for a story DLC.

 

They're also not going to make a DLC only some of the playerbase can play. If they go that route, they'll probably bring back the Orlesian Warden for people whose Wardens died and say "if the Orlesian Warden was the Warden-Commander, then they eventually went looking for a cure, too. Because reasons, that's why."

 

(Not that I think it's likely they'll go that route. More likely, a future protagonist will have the chance to use the Warden's notes/cure, if the Warden was around to make them, a la the cure to the krogan genophage in Mass Effect.)