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[animedreamer]

The turians seem to be the only ones out of the aliens that really seem to display just how distinct each gender is within that race. The Quarians are harder to tell because they are all covered up but the obvious shape of their bodies seem to suggest there is at least a difference between them when it comes to sexual origins and so on. Salarians well, again can't say i see much difference, and Krogan.... I don't even want to bother trying to argue that one. My point is, for races that have a male and female gender should if not in Andromeda or a later game, fully reveal the intricacies of each race?

 

This may also mean some races being slightly redesigned and for the purpose of the topic I could and would accept that as a necessity. 

[Laughing_Man]

The Krogan was the most idiotic. With their female(s) only distinguishable by wearing a burqa of all things.

[Addictress]

The Quarians were very distinct. Come on, Tali vs. Kal'Reegar? They're basically humans in suits.


One clearly female dalatrass for the Salarians...and I think I recall some Salarian Eclipse mercs seemed a bit feminine to me in ME2.

We never saw a female drell, or any gender for hanar.

[animedreamer]

This is just speculatory, but lets say Salarians are based off of frogs, my first draw from that would be that female Salarians are much bigger than male Salarians, not necessarily fat but are taller and have more girth than their male counterparts. I would actually like to see that in game. I would also assume they are stronger physically than male salarians and this could play a cute social role in their society, where the women are the protectors, builders or in general are expected to do more of the heavy lifting as they would be the best suited for it, while the men do the more mental jobs.

[Addictress]

Remember, the differences in chest or hips are mammalian traits. Birds don't have those differences. They are mainly distinguished by plumage. Same for reptiles or amphibians on earth - you really can't visually tell. Maybe some coloring differences, or size

[LiechockiRJ]

My point is, for races that have a male and female gender should if not in Andromeda or a later game, fully reveal the intricacies of each race?

yes.

Even in pokemon this bothers me (roserade males and machamps females for example), so ME is no diferent.

Nyreen was a right step in this process.

[animedreamer]

The Quarians were very distinct. Come on, Tali vs. Kal'Reegar? They're basically humans in suits.


One clearly female dalatrass for the Salarians...and I think I recall some Salarian Eclipse mercs seemed a bit feminine to me in ME2.

We never saw a female drell, or any gender for hanar.

 

I never meant that the Quarians were similar to the krogan in that you could hardly tell them apart, but rather they are still covered up from head to toe, and i do point out their body shapes, im not picking on them, but sexual dimorphism isn't limited to just how the body looks or works, it applies to facial features, and minor traits like hair in humans tends to grow more on men than it does women (apparently it's a hormone thing.) so things along that nature are still hidden with the Quarians. 

[Evamitchelle]

We've yet to see the female of most alien species (batarians, vorcha, drell, volus etc.) so we can't really say whether the Milky Way races lack dimorphism. If they want to introduce female of those species that look different than the males I'm all for it, but I'd rather they not retcon those we've already seen. 

 

For the new Andromeda species I certainly hope the devs have already designed both male and female of the species (if applicable) rather than coming up with yet another reason why we never see female aliens. It certainly looks that they came up with the cultural rules to justify the lack of female designs in the original trilogy. 

[animedreamer]

Remember, the differences in chest or hips are mammalian traits. Birds don't have those differences. They are mainly distinguished by plumage. Same for reptiles or amphibians on earth - you really can't visually tell. Maybe some coloring differences, or size

except like I mentioned in the case of female frogs, they are usually bigger than male ones so for amphibians there is that.

[TurianSpectre]

Remember, the differences in chest or hips are mammalian traits. Birds don't have those differences. They are mainly distinguished by plumage. Same for reptiles or amphibians on earth - you really can't visually tell. Maybe some coloring differences, or size

I can vouch for that!

[Dalinne]

We need more females from species like Batarian, Volus, Elcor, Drell, Krogan (female with faces at least), etc. in order to see a patern.

 

However, I like there are species without sexual dimorphism like Salarians. Maybe female Krogans are pretty similar to males only without plates in their heads, something like that.

[TurianSpectre]

We need more females from species like Batarian, Volus, Elcor, Drell, Krogan (female with faces at least), etc. in order to see a patern.

 

However, I like there are species without sexual dimorphism like Salarians. Maybe female Krogans are pretty similar to males only without plates in their heads, something like that.

Yeah that would make sense... 

[Mresa]

This is just speculatory, but lets say Salarians are based off of frogs, my first draw from that would be that female Salarians are much bigger than male Salarians, not necessarily fat but are taller and have more girth than their male counterparts. I would actually like to see that in game. I would also assume they are stronger physically than male salarians and this could play a cute social role in their society, where the women are the protectors, builders or in general are expected to do more of the heavy lifting as they would be the best suited for it, while the men do the more mental jobs.

 

Snippets from Mass Effect wiki:

 

"The salarians are amphibian haplo-diploid egg-layers; unfertilized eggs produce males and fertilized eggs produce females. Once a year, a salarian female will lay a clutch of dozens of eggs. Social rules prevent all but a fraction from being fertilized. As a result, 90% of the species is male."

 

"Normally, the rare salarian females are cloistered on their worlds out of tradition and respect. Powerful female Dalatrasses are dynasts and political kingpins. They determine the political course of their respective regions through shrewd negotiation. Though male salarians rise to positions of great authority in business, academia, or the military, they rarely have any input on politics; one notable exception to this rule is Valern, a male salarian representing his race on the Citadel Council in 2183."

 

So chances of seeing a female salarian would be very unlikely.

[Evamitchelle]

Also I hope sexual dimorphism doesn't mean slapping breasts on non-mammalian species. Like in XCOM 2 where the female vipers have 2 poison glands on their chest that look suspiciously breast-like. And the sole male of the species doesn't have those glands, despite the fact that he can also spit poison - albeit of a different kind. 

[TurianSpectre]

Snippets from Mass Effect wiki:

 

"The salarians are amphibian haplo-diploid egg-layers; unfertilized eggs produce males and fertilized eggs produce females. Once a year, a salarian female will lay a clutch of dozens of eggs. Social rules prevent all but a fraction from being fertilized. As a result, 90% of the species is male."

 

"Normally, the rare salarian females are cloistered on their worlds out of tradition and respect. Powerful female Dalatrasses are dynasts and political kingpins. They determine the political course of their respective regions through shrewd negotiation. Though male salarians rise to positions of great authority in business, academia, or the military, they rarely have any input on politics; one notable exception to this rule is Valern, a male salarian representing his race on the Citadel Council in 2183."

 

So chances of seeing a female salarian would be very unlikely.

I did wonder why the only female salarian we see what in ME3 for the "diplomatic" talks

[TurianSpectre]

Also I hope sexual dimorphism doesn't mean slapping breasts on non-mammalian species. Like in XCOM 2 where the female vipers have 2 poison glands on their chest that look suspiciously breast-like. And the sole male of the species doesn't have those glands, despite the fact that he can also spit poison - albeit of a different kind. 

Yeah i do have to admit, i think the artists got a bit lazy and were like "yeah lets make them look like boobs to show that its a female" lol

[Battlebloodmage]

Instead of male and female, I would like to see a hermaphrodite race, no, this has nothing to do with transgender so don't even start. In nature, there are races like garden snails that can be both males and female. I want to see more interesting dymanic in races outside of humans with masks. The Krogan may be more interesting if there is only one gender, or they could interchange their gender, again, biology based, there are creatures in nature that can change their gender to fulfill both roles. 

 

Many species of spiders have females to be bigger and stronger and eat the male after mating. It's weird how all the alien races follow the human norms, basically, females are smaller with boobs while males are larger. I keep thinking back to humans in masks rather than separate species. The concept of the aliens are basically just like medieval fantasy races that live together on one planet rather than outer space aliens with different evolution and different physiology. 

[Wulfram]

Aliens probably think we don't have much dimorphism. At least when we're wearing clothes.

[animedreamer]

Snippets from Mass Effect wiki:

 

"The salarians are amphibian haplo-diploid egg-layers; unfertilized eggs produce males and fertilized eggs produce females. Once a year, a salarian female will lay a clutch of dozens of eggs. Social rules prevent all but a fraction from being fertilized. As a result, 90% of the species is male."

 

"Normally, the rare salarian females are cloistered on their worlds out of tradition and respect. Powerful female Dalatrasses are dynasts and political kingpins. They determine the political course of their respective regions through shrewd negotiation. Though male salarians rise to positions of great authority in business, academia, or the military, they rarely have any input on politics; one notable exception to this rule is Valern, a male salarian representing his race on the Citadel Council in 2183."

 

So chances of seeing a female salarian would be very unlikely.

 

Aww that's sad. Well with society being uprooted and moving to Andromeda maybe social changes are a coming lol.

[animedreamer]

Instead of male and female, I would like to see a hermaphrodite race, no, this has nothing to do with transgender so don't even start. In nature, there are races like garden snails that can be both males and female. I want to see more interesting dymanic in races outside of humans with masks. The Krogan may be more interesting if there is only one gender, or they could interchange their gender, again, biology based, there are creatures in nature that can change their gender to fulfill both roles. 

 

Many species of spiders have females to be bigger and stronger and eat the male after mating. It's weird how all the alien races follow the human norms, basically, females are smaller with boobs while males are larger. I keep thinking back to humans in masks rather than separate species. The concept of the aliens are basically just like medieval fantasy races that live together on one planet rather than outer space aliens with different evolution and different physiology. 

 

Ironically screen junkies did a honest trailer on finding dory, and as it pertains to your comment they mentioned how Clownfish can indeed can change their gender to suit their needs, so in other words Nemo's dad could change into his mom if the need arouse. So yeah I could see there being something like that for some new race of aliens as well or maybe introducing it for a race who've we've yet to see or learn about their sexual reproduction. Anyway that's how i first learned about that concept, internet teaching me stuff awesome.

[Oldren Shepard]

 

So chances of seeing a female salarian would be very unlikely.

But this time we're going to colonize, it should be more or at least more than "normal" females and children of the species  that make the trip, for what it seems there isn't going to be Quarians, Geth and Rachni.

[Ahriman]

Yeah, krogans are a shame, it's exactly same model covered in carpet. These drells with ****** look out of place too.

Turians are ok, I suppose, at least they distinguishable.

Quarins are chicken-leg elfs basically, so designers didn't pull a thought when they were creating males.

But most of it doesn't matter, since most of races won't make it to Andromeda.

Yeah i do have to admit, i think the artists got a bit lazy and were like "yeah lets make them look like boobs to show that its a female" lol

In case of X-Com artists got a bit furry and horny.

Edit: Wat. Slang for female breast is considered a curse word on BSN?

[TurianSpectre]

 

In case of X-Com artists got a bit furry and horny.

Nothing wrong with having a fetish but that is just sad lol

[Seboist]

They should have an alien species where the female is larger than the male, like with black widow spiders.

[TurianSpectre]

They should have an alien species where the female is larger than the male, like with black widow spiders.

Eww no lol