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[Sartoz]

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Frankly, I buy games for play and enjoyment.

A truly interesting twist, in alien sexual characteristics, is a very human like species that has much in common with humans.  These aliens, however, are totally incompatible^* with humankind breeding gear and the two of you find out when the romantic antics are over and union is about to start. I would drop from laughing exhaustion because you spent so much time and energy pursuing your objective. 

 

Incompatible^*  = male/female sexual organs are swapped.

[AlanC9]

Yeah i do have to admit, i think the artists got a bit lazy and were like "yeah lets make them look like boobs to show that its a female" lol

It's not laziness, really. The job's to design in femaleness in a way that the audience will recognize it. Since the audience are pretty much all humans, that means signs of femaleness which humans would recognize.

[AlanC9]

Incompatible^* = male/female sexual organs are swapped.

Not all humans would find that an insurmountable barrier, of course. But the alien NPC might.

What was Sera's line..."You're not my thing. Your thing is not my thing."

[Ahriman]

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Frankly, I buy games for play and enjoyment.

A truly interesting twist, in alien sexual characteristics, is a very human like species that has much in common with humans.  These aliens, however, are totally incompatible^* with humankind breeding gear and the two of you find out when the romantic antics are over and union is about to start. I would drop from laughing exhaustion because you spent so much time and energy pursuing your objective. 

 

Incompatible^*  = male/female sexual organs are swapped.

Thanks for sharing your futa fetish, Sartoz.

[dreamgazer]

Since the audience are pretty much all humans

I like the cut of your jib, pal.

[LiechockiRJ]

Also I hope sexual dimorphism doesn't mean slapping breasts on non-mammalian species. Like in XCOM 2 where the female vipers have 2 poison glands on their chest that look suspiciously breast-like. And the sole male of the species doesn't have those glands, despite the fact that he can also spit poison - albeit of a different kind. 

 

hehe lol.

There´s a brazilian writter that slap breasts in everything.

from insects

to dragons

[daveliam]

Well how many species did we see both males and females in ME so far?

• Turians - dimorphism
• Quarians - dimorphism
• Salarians - no dimorphism (that we can tell with only one female being shown)
• Krogran - no dimorphism (that we can tell with only one female being shown)

So......to answer the OP, no, I don't think that the species are lacking dimorphism since half of them have it.

[Scarlett]

We never saw a female drell, or any gender for hanar.

 

Well actually we do, on a short comic about Thane.  We see his dead wife and how they met. It's called "Foundation", let me find this again ...

 

http://masseffect.wi...iki/Thane_Krios

http://masseffect.wi...ki/Irikah_Krios

 

Not the best artstyle, but nice to read.

[Addictress]

Well actually we do, on a short comic about Thane's. We see his dead wife and how they met. It's called "Foundation", let me find this again ...

http://masseffect.wi...iki/Thane_Krios
http://masseffect.wi...ki/Irikah_Krios

Not the best artstyle, but nice to read.

Pfft comics

[Scarlett]

Pfft comics

Better than nothing ~

[fizzypop]

You don't actually need sexual dimorphism. Plenty of animals don't have it.

[fizzypop]

except like I mentioned in the case of female frogs, they are usually bigger than male ones so for amphibians there is that.

There are actual several types of amphibians without this. In fact it varies WILDLY among amphibians.

[Laughing_Man]

Also I hope sexual dimorphism doesn't mean slapping breasts on non-mammalian species. Like in XCOM 2 where the female vipers have 2 poison glands on their chest that look suspiciously breast-like. And the sole male of the species doesn't have those glands, despite the fact that he can also spit poison - albeit of a different kind. 

 

I'm just going to point out that the entire modus operandi of the Ethereals from XCOM is to create servant races by splicing various

alien strands of DNA.

 

So while vipers with boobies are usually a stupid concept, in this case they can easily be explained by left over human DNA.

 

The real reason boils down to a design choice that aimed to make the "Viper" enemies along the lines of the mythical Naga.

It certainly has little to do with sex appeal or eye candy.(the concept is very far into the niche zone as far as sexual attraction goes...)

[aoibhealfae]

The Krogan was the most idiotic. With their female(s) only distinguishable by wearing a burqa of all things.

 

Actually, I thought the Quarians ladies were just as modest. They wear a hijab remember? And the way people are crazy to know what Tali looks like is the exact same obsessive sentiment guys have for girls wearing a hijab or burqa... can't really win this

[Evamitchelle]

I'm just going to point out that the entire modus operandi of the Ethereals from XCOM is to create servant races by splicing various

alien strands of DNA.

 

So while vipers with boobies are usually a stupid concept, in this case they can easily be explained by left over human DNA.

 

The real reason boils down to a design choice that aimed to make the "Viper" enemies along the lines of the mythical Naga.

It certainly has little to do with sex appeal or eye candy.(the concept is very far into the niche zone as far as sexual attraction goes...)

 

They specifically say in XCOM 2 that Vipers no longer have human DNA and are a purely reptilian species. And I never said it had to do with sex appeal, I think it's just a lazy shorthand to indicate the female of the species. 

[Lady Artifice]

A lot of people are looking for the same sexual differences we see in ourselves, which shouldn't actually apply to most of the alien species. For most of them, it should probably be more likely to see size and color differences than mammalian curvature.

[Kabooooom]

The Krogan was the most idiotic. With their female(s) only distinguishable by wearing a burqa of all things.

Many species don't have sexual dimorphism, so I don't see how it's idiotic at all.

[Laughing_Man]

They specifically say in XCOM 2 that Vipers no longer have human DNA and are a purely reptilian species.

Really? Wow, way to shoot themselves in the foot.
 
 

Actually, I thought the Quarians ladies were just as modest. They wear a hijab remember? And the way people are crazy to know what Tali looks like is the exact same obsessive sentiment guys have for girls wearing a hijab or burqa... can't really win this

 
Who the hell is talking about modest? The Quarians are wearing full HAZMAT suits, certainly not "hijab", and not just females.
 
(As for fetishes some guys have towards nuns, or other examples of females who wear overly modest clothing, I don't see the connection here.
You aren't seriously suggesting that the design was for the benefit of a fringe group of fetishists, right?...)
 
As for Krogan, I can just imagine the reaction male Krogan will receive if they told female Krogan to "cover themselves"...
(which is essentially the source of all these religious clothing for females)
 

Many species don't have sexual dimorphism, so I don't see how it's idiotic at all.

Then simply state that fact, don't hide their females under a tent as a way to distinguish them.

[Sylvius the Mad]

I'd be interested to see a species with really extreme sexual dimorphism, like with an Angler Fish.

[Kabooooom]

Really? Wow, way to shoot themselves in the foot.



Who the hell is talking about modest? The Quarians are wearing full HAZMAT suits, certainly not "hijab", and not just females.

(As for fetishes some guys have towards nuns, or other examples of females who wear overly modest clothing, I don't see the connection here.
You aren't seriously suggesting that the design was for the benefit of a fringe group of fetishists, right?...)

As for Krogan, I can just imagine the reaction male Krogan will receive if they told female Krogan to "cover themselves"...
(which is essentially the source of all these religious clothing for females)


Then simply state that fact, don't hide their females under a tent as a way to distinguish them.

I honestly don't mind that either. Many species on Earth that don't exhibit sexual dimorphism still exhibit behavioral differences between the sexes. For a fictional sapient species, I have no problem seeing how this would extend to cultural aspects like clothing.

That said, I would prefer a greater degree of sexual dimorphism in new Andromeda species. Nature is very creative in this, after all.

[Laughing_Man]

I honestly don't mind that either. Many species on Earth that don't exhibit sexual dimorphism still exhibit behavioral differences between the sexes. For a fictional sapient species, I have no problem seeing how this would extend to cultural aspects like clothing.

 

Sure, but I want to see something more original, not a copy-paste of backwards religious logic from real life.

[Gramorla]

whats with a species that has more than 2 different gender? Like the Aliens in Alien Nation (old SiFi Series) who has 3 different genders.

 

Evolution is a wonderful, chaotic force.. just look at australia and its crazy natural fauna. And thats is on the same planet... the scope of crazy **** you can find on another planet is unpredictable.

[Laughing_Man]

whats with a species that has more than 2 different gender? Like the Aliens in Alien Nation (old SiFi Series) who has 3 different genders.

 

Evolution is a wonderful, chaotic force.. just look at australia and its crazy natural fauna. And thats is on the same planet... the scope of crazy **** you can find on another planet is unpredictable.

 

Sounds intriguing, especially if they are also not yet another humanoid race.

[aoibhealfae]

 

Who the hell is talking about modest? The Quarians are wearing full HAZMAT suits, certainly not "hijab", and not just females.
 
(As for fetishes some guys have towards nuns, or other examples of females who wear overly modest clothing, I don't see the connection here.
You aren't seriously suggesting that the design was for the benefit of a fringe group of fetishists, right?...)
 
As for Krogan, I can just imagine the reaction male Krogan will receive if they told female Krogan to "cover themselves"...
(which is essentially the source of all these religious clothing for females)
 

Then simply state that fact, don't hide their females under a tent as a way to distinguish them.

 

I sometimes wear my hijab similar to Tali and even her infinity scarf can be made into a hijab (which I kinda want one for Syawal... except currency rate and shipping rate is horrendous. Someone ship me one please, I wanna cosplay in rebellion among my relatives...). Besides, what Eve was wearing have more Japanese influenced than actual modest wear.

 

And clothing can be a sign of social class and Eve is a Shaman. The highest echelon in her tribe next to the clan chief. The only other female Krogan that was portrayed also wears similar gear as Eve and there's also the female corpse in ME2. Although I kinda get that the Krogan male are protective over their females, they are a dying species after all.

 

Either way, at least they don't use male VAs to voice female roles. 

 

also, what a girl looks like underneath her clothes is her own business. 

[animedreamer]

You don't actually need sexual dimorphism. Plenty of animals don't have it.

and on the flip note many of them do have it. 

 

I mean, for those that do fine, for those that don't okay exemplify please. To the guy who listed 4 races and said it was 50/50, sure that sounds right when you narrow it down to only those races ever appearing in any future game. However it's not going to be limited to them, we will gain new races over time, and you forgot about humanity in your breakdown. 

 

What im saying is whether there is any now isn't the question, but rather should there be more going forward. I already pointed out which one had it and didn't. So what's really the point of reiterating what we already know? What I also proposed is that mayhaps they could even rework some less defined ones to accentuate it more even if it means a slight redesign.

 

As far as the comics go, I kind of scoff at those to, in fact the reason i made this thread is because I did looked up Thane's Wife while looking for something else and saw some of the scans of her from said comic. Because where these first examples of female members of a previously male seen only race appear in a comic instead of a game, I'm a little reluctant to cite them as artistic vision as intended.