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#26
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The new race with the transforming buildings coming out of the earth from the trailer? They seem more an ancient race thats hibernating. Would time mechanics or portals give them a more OP and terrifying edge, maybe there's interesting ways to combat those mechanics.

 

Thoughts?

 

Dude, leave this **** to the writers. It's their job to figure this out. If we hate something while the game's going on, fine, but right now, we should even be asking about this.



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Dude, leave this **** to the writers. It's their job to figure this out. If we hate something while the game's going on, fine, but right now, we should even be asking about this.

 

They are leaving it to the writers, not like there's a choice there lol. People do like to speculate, and with the info we have so far that's pretty much all that people can do. They're immersed and anticipating, and have ideas that they like to talk about. I don't know why you're posting in a speculative thread if you don't like that, as if others shouldn't discuss what they want. Just let people have their ideas and move on if you don't care to talk about it.



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Dude, leave this **** to the writers. It's their job to figure this out. If we hate something while the game's going on, fine, but right now, we should even be asking about this.

 

...dude, wtf?



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Milky Way Tech + 1 billion years of technological development since they haven't been harvested every 50,000 years by omnicidal machine squids.

 

I like this idea a lot, that Andromeda's indigenous life would have more advanced technology than our own due to their not being forced to evolve down a pre-determined path by the Reapers and not being harvested.

 

Perhaps they could expand on the dark matter theories that were floating around in ME2 and which Drew originally had planned for the ending of the trilogy. 



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Milky Way Tech + 1 billion years of technological development since they haven't been harvested every 50,000 years by omnicidal machine squids.

 

That's assuming they don't manage to wipe themselves out first. And besides, reapers aren't the only apocalyptic element out there. 


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They are leaving it to the writers, not like there's a choice there lol. People do like to speculate, and with the info we have so far that's pretty much all that people can do. They're immersed and anticipating, and have ideas that they like to talk about. I don't know why you're posting in a speculative thread if you don't like that, as if others shouldn't discuss what they want. Just let people have their ideas and move on if you don't care to talk about it.

 

...dude, wtf?

 

I don't know, it's something about speculating on nothing that doesn't jive with me and the phrasing of the title doesn't help much. Based on the title, it's as if there's been a mistake already so the OP wants to discuss ideas to improve on… **** we have no idea about.
 
Whatever though. Speculate away!


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Milky Way Tech + 1 billion years of technological development since they haven't been harvested every 50,000 years by omnicidal machine squids.

 

They were probably keept down by this old now gone species that might have wiped out all other advanced life in the Andromeda galaxy until they decided to "Ascend" or whatever they did, or maybe they got killed by their own AI's at some point that then departed the galaxy to continue the slaughter elsewhere.

 

Or you discover that there is a similar cycle happening here just initiated by others.



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I don't know, it's something about speculating on nothing that doesn't jive with me and the phrasing of the title doesn't help much. Based on the title, it's as if there's been a mistake already so the OP wants to discuss ideas to improve on… **** we have no idea about.
 
Whatever though. Speculate away!

 

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Honestly, their tech should be utterly alien and completely unlike anything we have ever seen before. Otherwise, it violates mass effects own lore.

Remember, the Reapers designed the harvest so that the species of a given cycle would only use technology based on the mass effect and never advance beyond a given level with regards to that technology.

In the absence of a Reaper harvest cycle in Andromeda, a civilization should not only advance mass effect tech far beyond what the Milky Way has, but also use tech that operates on a completely different premise that Milky Way species couldn't even dream of yet.

And I bet that will be a major point of the new story - the Remnant are ancient and godlike, specifically because they never were culled by the Reapers, and this technology would be extremely interesting for the Milky Way species, setting off a quest to acquire it for their benefit. Insert conflict and plot twist.

It'll probably be the old moral conflict of a civilization acquiring technology that is far outside their grasp, without maturing enough to first create it on their own.
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Honestly, their tech should be utterly alien and completely unlike anything we have ever seen before.


That's really not possible. These ideas have to come from human minds.
 

Otherwise, it violates mass effects own lore.


That's quite the leap...
 

Remember, the Reapers designed the harvest so that the species of a given cycle would only use technology based on the mass effect and never advance beyond a given level with regards to that technology.
In the absence of a Reaper harvest cycle in Andromeda, a civilization should not only advance mass effect tech far beyond what the Milky Way has, but also use tech that operates on a completely different premise that Milky Way species couldn't even dream of yet.
And I bet that will be a major point of the new story - the Remnant are ancient and godlike, specifically because they never were culled by the Reapers, and this technology would be extremely interesting for the Milky Way species, setting off a quest to acquire it for their benefit. Insert conflict and plot twist.
It'll probably be the old moral conflict of a civilization acquiring technology that is far outside their grasp, without maturing enough to first create it on their own.


Civilizations rise and fall constantly. Human history is a tale of fallen empires. Reapers didn't bring down those empires. To say "In the absence of Reapers, Andromeda should be unfathomably more advanced than the Milky Way" is pretty silly.


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That's really not possible. These ideas have to come from human minds.

Lol, you're being ridiculous. Or deliberately obtuse just to troll, can't tell which. Obviously, the context of my post was "alien from the perspective of the Milky Way species, which use familiar mass effect technology". Considering that the mass effect tech also came from a human mind, and that it represents a foreign concept to us at first, that's enough to refute your point pretty soundly.

That's quite the leap...

Lol, hardly. Did you even pay attention to the story? I'm thinking not, because you followed that with:

Civilizations rise and fall constantly. Human history is a tale of fallen empires. Reapers didn't bring down those empires. To say "In the absence of Reapers, Andromeda should be unfathomably more advanced than the Milky Way" is pretty silly.

Apples and oranges. It's a matter of scale, which you aren't getting. The Milky Way has 200 to 400 billion star systems. More conservative estimates place that number at 100 billion. It doesn't matter, as that's still a fuckton. The vast majority of those contain planets, and an unknown number contain potentially inhabitable worlds. The numbers don't matter, because in Mass Effect we know that a handful of civilizations reach a spacefaring level of technology approximately every 50,000 or so years, on average.

Think about that for a moment. That means that at any given time, there are dozens of intelligent alien species in the galaxy (considering modern humans have existed for quite a bit longer than that), and at any given time, a subset of those species are sufficiently advanced to use the relay network. Which means that at any given time, there are an even greater number of life bearing worlds that are JUST on the cusp of evolving intelligent life, and at any given time, there are an even greater number of life bearing worlds that have the potential to.

Now consider that the Reapers have been doing this for 2 billion years. Do the math on how many civilizations that is yourself. In Mass Effect, the background lore shows that the galaxy is literally teeming with life. And in the absence of any galactic extinction event, once a species becomes spacefaring it would statistically be extraordinarily difficult to snuff them out.

Now consider that Andromeda has twice the number of stars as the Milky Way.

So, sorry - but no, you're wrong. It would be literally unfathomable, totally and completely unbelievable if Andromeda didn't have some incredibly advanced apex species at some point in its history. It only takes one. And in the Milky Way - that was the Leviathans, two billion years ago. The abundance of intelligent life in Mass Effect pretty much rules out them being a statistical fluke. The only reason another species hasn't followed suit is because of the Reaper's cycles.

And luckily, Bioware seems to have thought of this and concluded the same, with the Remnant having technology that is more advanced and/or different than the Milky Way's. Because it makes perfect sense.

PS: Of note, this is true of real life as well. If humanity stays on Earth, we will eventually go extinct. If we stay in our solar system, we will eventually go extinct. If we spread out across the stars wide and far, the chances of anything happening that would wipe us out become extremely unlikely. You literally can't compare that to two civilizations on Earth taking potshots at each other until one is wiped out. The scale of what we are talking about is, well, astronomical. We wouldn't remain as humans forever, of course, but our descendants would survive as whatever they are. It's why the Fermi Paradox is so convincingly curious. If you run the math, considering exponential population growth and even slow space travel using generation ships, we could spread across the entire Milky Way galaxy in 50 million years, which is a cosmic blink of an eye. That is 0.4% the age of the Milky Way. Even if we say that is an incredibly liberal estimate and it take us ten times as long, that's still only 4% the age of the galaxy. We could visit every single star in that time, by far. Every single one.

If there's one thing Mass Effect did right, it was provide the Reapers as an explanation for the Fermi Paradox.
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Milky Way Tech + 1 billion years of technological development since they haven't been harvested every 50,000 years by omnicidal machine squids.

 

They are getting wiped out by the inhibitors / wolves instead.  ;)