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[Broke]

Soooo.... the Milkyway galaxy is part of a family of galaxies, most of which are relatively close to it. (160 000 - 320 000 light years)

But from a colonist point of view it makes sense to visit the Andromeda galaxy (since it's the biggest one of the bunch), even though it is one of the most distant ones.

 

It would be surprising if our civilisation was the first to try and visit the neighbour galaxies. (considering there were so many cycles that existed prior to ours)

 

Do you think other races attempted the big exodus to Andromeda before us ?

 

It would be interesting if some of the more ancient (and tech savvy)  races would have left the Milkyway galaxy millions of years ago. Looking at one of the artworks of Mass effect Andromeda, you can see a superstructure that closely resembles a classic Mass effect relay. Would it be too far fetched if a previous cycle (one that completely understood the Mass effect technologyand was able to manipulate it) visited the Andromeda galaxy before us and never came back home ?

 

Is that something you'd want to see or is it all just bull***t ?

[nfi42]

I don't particularly think the first place to go outside the milky way is Andromeda, but yes it's plausible that prior species  made the jump.

 

I don't think it would add much to the overall story if Biowere did this, though.  We're back to the why did they run? to escape the Reapers.

 

(Unless the race we meet is the one that indoctrinated the Reapers, There's a story)

[Broke]

If you want to explore, Andromeda makes the most sense (since all the surrounding galaxies are very small in diameter), almost a tenth the size of the Milky Way. Sometimes even smaller.

 

It wouldn't impact the story a lot. Just an ancient civilisation that had very old ties to our galaxy. In case there are Mass Relays in Andromeda, their origin might be explained easily.

 

Also: M33 is another big galaxy very close to Andromeda, so it is not impossible that we'd explore it at some point.

[maia0407]

A 10th the size of the Milky Way is still huge, though. From a human perspective, it would take, guessing wildly, thousands of generations of dedicated exploration to explore a galaxy that 'small'.  (Haven't done the math nor accounted for the effects of exponential population growth, but point is small satellite galaxies are still huge even if small on galactic scales) I don't really understand the need to go to Andromeda just because it is larger than our satellite galaxies unless the devs come up with a reason for why we need to get further away from the Milky Way than our satellite galaxies allow. 

[Big I]

In my opinion if it wasn't for the Reapers intergalactic exploration and expansion would be a very low priority. If I remember correctly there are approx. one hundred million stars in the Milky Way. In ME less than 1% of them have been explored. Everything a civilisation would ever need is basically right on their doorstep.

 

So I'm not expecting to find any other galactic travelers.

[nfi42]

If you want to explore, Andromeda makes the most sense (since all the surrounding galaxies are very small in diameter), almost a tenth the size of the Milky Way. Sometimes even smaller.

 

It wouldn't impact the story a lot. Just an ancient civilisation that had very old ties to our galaxy. In case there are Mass Relays in Andromeda, their origin might be explained easily.

 

Also: M33 is another big galaxy very close to Andromeda, so it is not impossible that we'd explore it at some point.

 

 

Big galaxies are far far bigger than you think.  Milky way has billions of stars and planets, and I think at last estimat, the number of planets with atmospheres and solid ground in the Goldilocks zone  is in the order on millions of potential planets with life forms.  Andromeda is bigger than MW.  In any case,  MEA is going to just a tiny part of this.

 

I agree, if there were previous civilizations from MW,  it wouldn't play a big part.

 

Again galaxies are way bigger than any possible exploration that MEA does in excess of 1000000 to 1 order.

[TurianSpectre]

Big galaxies are far far bigger than you think.  Milky way has billions of stars and planets, and I think at last estimat, the number of planets with atmospheres and solid ground in the Goldilocks zone  is in the order on millions of potential planets with life forms.  Andromeda is bigger than MW.  In any case,  MEA is going to just a tiny part of this.

 

I agree, if there were previous civilizations from MW,  it wouldn't play a big part.

 

Again galaxies are way bigger than any possible exploration that MEA does in excess of 1000000 to 1 order.

I'm glad to see that someone else knows the facts of what lies beyond out borders

[maia0407]

These are two of my favorite sites to get a sense of the scale of large numbers and the scale of large structures in the universe:

 

http://www.kokogiak.com/megapenny/

 

http://www.atlasoftheuniverse.com/

 

I'd link to some videos as well but stupid Windows 10 is causing some problems. *sigh* Yet another problem to hunt down and repair. 

[nfi42]

I'm glad to see that someone else knows the facts of what lies beyond out borders

 

 

I had to look it up just to make sure  i didn't came across as a bloody idiot.

[Broke]

I agree with all of you.

 

Since Bioware wanted a fresh start, they decided to shift the focus to another galaxy (though the MW remains largely unexplored)

But even if our galaxy is not much explored, you can't miss the biggest civilizations that "control" it. You may discover smaller civilisations that remain hidden, but the most prevalent ones, are the ones we already know.

 

Similarly, if you visit the Andromeda galaxy, it won't be long until you stumble on the "masters", the civilisations that have spread accross their galaxy or hold some kind of political or militar power over it. New powerful races to discover I'd say.

[maia0407]

I agree with all of you.

 

Since Bioware wanted a fresh start, they decided to shift the focus to another galaxy (though the MW remains largely unexplored)

But even if our galaxy is not much explored, you can't miss the biggest civilizations that "control" it. You may discover smaller civilisations that remain hidden, but the most prevalent ones, are the ones we already know.

 

Similarly, if you visit the Andromeda galaxy, it won't be long until you stumble on the "masters", the civilisations that have spread accross their galaxy or hold some kind of political or militar power over it. New powerful races to discover I'd say.

'Master' species spreading out and dominating the galaxy fairly quickly (in galatic time) could provide a good reason to want to go to a larger galaxy. In the Milky Way galaxy of ME, we know that it only took around 50,000 years for species to rise up and dominate the galaxy. If we are trying to find a new home, going to a galaxy large enough to find a few isolated niches untouched by the dominate species could be a good reason to go to Andromeda.

[Mcfly616]

Andromeda is a zombie galaxy. 

 

 

I hope Bioware took that into consideration when creating the game.

[Broke]

What's a zombie galaxy ?

[Mcfly616]

What's a zombie galaxy ?

 One that has long since ceased mass-producing stars.

 

 

 

Andromeda stopped churning them out at a high rate, billions of years ago.

[Broke]

The EAplay trailer showed us a big blue star, close to another planet (possible the desert/tornado planet). Who knows, maybe it is a massive blue star with short lifespan (millions of years)

 

Sucks that Andromeda is a zombie galaxy

[Sartoz]

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It would be an archeological wonder but only to them... a data point in the historical archives. No impact to game play.

[maia0407]

The EAplay trailer showed us a big blue star, close to another planet (possible the desert/tornado planet). Who knows, maybe it is a massive blue star with short lifespan (millions of years)

 

Sucks that Andromeda is a zombie galaxy

The Milky Way might be a zombie galaxy as well. Some scientists suspect that we went into this state around a billion years ago. From a human perspective, doesn't mean much as we still have billions of years to leave the galaxy for a new one before anything bad happens or we just kill ourselves first. 

[Mcfly616]

Sucks that Andromeda is a zombie galaxy

 No worries. Being a zombie galaxy doesn't mean it's devoid of life. It just means the galaxy itself is far past its star-making prime. I just hope Bioware some how puts their own spin on the effects of residing in such a place. I hope they mention it in the narrative and maybe take it into account when devising the lore for the new setting.

[Broke]

Considering how fast species evolve and how fast they go extinct, I think we wouldn't be able to recognize ourselves anymore in a few billion years xD

 

But if we survive and progress against all odds, we'll be a damn advanced species

[SofaJockey]

I think cosmological considerations are irrelevant.

The game was never going to be:

Mass Effect: Large Magellanic Cloud

 

People have heard of Andromeda, the game is there for both plot and marketing reasons 

[Monster A-Go Go]

In my opinion if it wasn't for the Reapers intergalactic exploration and expansion would be a very low priority. If I remember correctly there are approx. one hundred million stars in the Milky Way. In ME less than 1% of them have been explored. Everything a civilisation would ever need is basically right on their doorstep.

 

Hundreds of billions, actually.  The scale of our galaxy boggles the mind.

 

The game was never going to be:

Mass Effect: Large Magellanic Cloud

 

People have heard of Andromeda, the game is there for both plot and marketing reasons 

 

You're right.  It should have been Mass Effect: Fornax Dwarf.  Because...human nature.

[iM3GTR]

Hundreds of billions, actually. The scale of our galaxy boggles the mind.

And if you want to boggle your mind further to get an even better sense of scale, try this:
http://joshworth.com...olarsystem.html

[KotorEffect3]

And if you want to boggle your mind further to get an even better sense of scale, try this:
http://joshworth.com...olarsystem.html

I gave up after Jupiter

[iM3GTR]

I gave up after Jupiter

Well, the crucial part was at the end where it said that you would need 6771 more pages of the same scale to find another star.

[KotorEffect3]

Well, the crucial part was at the end where it said that you would need 6771 more pages of the same scale to find another star.

Yeah I can believe that.