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SofaJockey

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It should have been Mass Effect: Fornax Dwarf.  Because...human nature.

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mmmm, who needs romance when you have Fornax...?



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'Master' species spreading out and dominating the galaxy fairly quickly (in galatic time) could provide a good reason to want to go to a larger galaxy. In the Milky Way galaxy of ME, we know that it only took around 50,000 years for species to rise up and dominate the galaxy. If we are trying to find a new home, going to a galaxy large enough to find a few isolated niches untouched by the dominate species could be a good reason to go to Andromeda.

Dominating species

 

Like the Reapers?  ;)

 

Of course, given their genocidal nature, if any species did manage to make the intergalactic leap, the Reapers are even more incompetent than I thought.

 

Unless the Reapers are also there... :whistle:


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Soooo.... the Milkyway galaxy is part of a family of galaxies, most of which are relatively close to it. (160 000 - 320 000 light years)

But from a colonist point of view it makes sense to visit the Andromeda galaxy (since it's the biggest one of the bunch), even though it is one of the most distant ones.

 

It would be surprising if our civilisation was the first to try and visit the neighbour galaxies. (considering there were so many cycles that existed prior to ours)

 

Do you think other races attempted the big exodus to Andromeda before us ?

 

It would be interesting if some of the more ancient (and tech savvy)  races would have left the Milkyway galaxy millions of years ago. Looking at one of the artworks of Mass effect Andromeda, you can see a superstructure that closely resembles a classic Mass effect relay. Would it be too far fetched if a previous cycle (one that completely understood the Mass effect technologyand was able to manipulate it) visited the Andromeda galaxy before us and never came back home ?

 

Is that something you'd want to see or is it all just bull***t ?

 

 

It is "all just bull***t." The odds are far too slim to ever meet anyone from our galaxy. First it is unlikely that other races would have escaped because it was ONLY this cycle that the citadel trap failed to work. Every other time the citadel trap worked and the reapers shut down the mass relay network to isolate the pockets of resistance. The harvest is time consuming it takes time to complete not because of continued fighting (which there will still be) but because of the size and numbers involved. Something like this will take the resources of multiple worlds not just one and when communication and transport is limited to just standard FTL drives you just can't move the expertise and resources to their needed locations. It is possible another civilization did so but unlikely. 

 

Second galaxy's are vast and they spin the odds that we just happen to arrive in Andromeda in the same location of past Milky way residence did is beyond slim

 

Third the time scales are MASSIVE here would any past milky way residence still be alive? Would they even know that far back into their past? I suspect not.

 

Just these three reason's alone make me think that no such encounter would be anything but writer hand waving, now this isn't necessarily a bad thing some great stories are based on a flimsy premiss. The book/movie "The Martian" is based on BS there is no storm on mars that could knock over a man let alone their space craft. But that BS hand waving allowed for some great storytelling. hand waving isn't in itself bad as much as players like to think that it is.



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It is "all just bull***t." The odds are far too slim to ever meet anyone from our galaxy. First it is unlikely that other races would have escaped because it was ONLY this cycle that the citadel trap failed to work. Every other time the citadel trap worked and the reapers shut down the mass relay network to isolate the pockets of resistance. The harvest is time consuming it takes time to complete not because of continued fighting (which there will still be) but because of the size and numbers involved. Something like this will take the resources of multiple worlds not just one and when communication and transport is limited to just standard FTL drives you just can't move the expertise and resources to their needed locations. It is possible another civilization did so but unlikely.

Second galaxy's are vast and they spin the odds that we just happen to arrive in Andromeda in the same location of past Milky way residence did is beyond slim

Third the time scales are MASSIVE here would any past milky way residence still be alive? Would they even know that far back into their past? I suspect not.

Just these three reason's alone make me think that no such encounter would be anything but writer hand waving, now this isn't necessarily a bad thing some great stories are based on a flimsy premiss. The book/movie "The Martian" is based on BS there is no storm on mars that could knock over a man let alone their space craft. But that BS hand waving allowed for some great storytelling. hand waving isn't in itself bad as much as players like to think that it is.


I almost fully agree, it'd be BS. That said, I half expect Bioware to pull something like the Remnant being the descendants of an ancient Milky Way species or something.

Your point about it being unlikely that we would arrive in just the right spot to run into them is probably true, but I would make a counter argument that one of the reasons the Fermi Paradox is so compelling is because of the time involved. If you run the math, it is actually possible for a given species to colonize every star in the galaxy traveling at a small fraction of the speed of light in only 50 million years. Which is a long time, but a cosmic blink of an eye. So it does seem somewhat reasonable to me that if a previous Milky Way species did make it to Andromeda, they would have more than enough time to spread across the entire galaxy if they could. So that part of the story would make sense just fine.

What I object to isn't that it isn't plausible, but that it's unimaginative. How many other scifi stories use that trope? Hell, Halo pretty much does. It would be a boring twist.