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[Matthew Ryder]

Now it really comes to no surprise that  most of us are wondering how the original trilogy and Andromeda would connect seeing as how Andromeda is a clean slate. Well according to Game Informer five novels are set to release to help give us insight of what the hell is going on and what has been going on. 

 

From the website:

"Titan Books describes that these series of novels will "act as prequel and sequels to the events in the games and will become part of the overarching Mass Effect saga. They will focus on key characters and answer the many questions fans have been asking." The series involves four books. The first is titled Mass Effect: Andromeda Initiative, written by fantasy author N.K. Jemisin, which will release this year in August. The other three books are expected to release in March 2017, September 2017, and March 2018.

While the second and third novels don't have a confirmed author just yet, the fourth will be written by Mass Effect creative director Mac Walters."

 

With the lack of information we're still receiving it's a nice thought that we're not going to be completely in the dark. What do you guys think?

[Rascoth]

There's already a topic discussing this:

http://forum.bioware...by-mac-walters/

[Matthew Ryder]

There's already a topic discussing this:

http://forum.bioware...by-mac-walters/

Game Informer is slow...

[Rascoth]

Game Informer is slow...

Indeed.

[Fogg]

BSN found it first. Go BSN.

[Kabooooom]

BSN found it first. Go BSN.

R/masseffect found it first. BSN posted it nearly 24 hours later. I pretty much just check r/masseffect for news now (while hoping for a new leak since that's probably how we will get anything substantial). BSN has been pretty slow with it, lol. It usually goes like this - Reddit finds it first, BSN copies it a day later, then over the course of several weeks people post repeat topics because they didn't check if there were already threads open.

[Fogg]

R/masseffect found it first. BSN posted it nearly 24 hours later. I pretty much just check r/masseffect for news now (while hoping for a new leak since that's probably how we will get anything substantial). BSN has been pretty slow with it, lol. It usually goes like this - Reddit finds it first, BSN copies it a day later, then over the course of several weeks people post repeat topics because they didn't check if there were already threads open.

lol, I was the first to post it here and on r/masseffect and did it first on BSN. Since you know, I found it in the first place.

[Addictress]

This is awful. Main story should be inside the game, not outside it. I hate outsourcing important story in books.


Books and fanfic are great supplements but should NOT be critical to a cohesive in-game storyline.

[goofyomnivore]

This is awful. Main story should be inside the game, not outside it. I hate outsourcing important story in books.


Books and fanfic are great supplements but should NOT be critical to a cohesive in-game storyline.

I thought the Dragon Age games did a pretty good job of summarizing the books/characters when you run into them in the world. I haven't read any of the Mass Effect novels tho aren't they about TIM/Anderson/Saren?

[Remix-General Aetius]

These "news" are like a month old.

[10K]

So we're going to have another novel to screw up everything. Drew Karpyshyn better be the author, because that last book was dreadful.

[AlanC9]

This is awful. Main story should be inside the game, not outside it. I hate outsourcing important story in books.

Books and fanfic are great supplements but should NOT be critical to a cohesive in-game storyline.

Is that going to be the case? It wasn't in DA or ME so far. There will be some interesting stuff in the books, no doubt, but everything we really need to know will be in the opening cinematic, and the rest will be in the Codex.

[UpUpAway]

I'm getting a bit of a chuckle over the OP's freudian slip in the title... "novels coming to help build gap" instead of "bridge gap."

 

I agree with Alan though... to date, everything critical to the player has been included in the game itself; and I expect the novels will just provide added "stories" for interest's sake; and to perhaps pacify those who are generally overtly critical of relatively small gaps in the lore or who need a whole bunch of extra background in order to feel like they are immersing themselves in the game.  I think it's great that they are starting the book series with one written by an award-winning author who has not been previously associated with the franchise... a fresh pair of eyes, so to speak.

[In Exile]

Is that going to be the case? It wasn't in DA or ME so far. There will be some interesting stuff in the books, no doubt, but everything we really need to know will be in the opening cinematic, and the rest will be in the Codex.

 

I think DA:I failed to really develop a lot of characters and plots that got treatment in books, so I think that's where you see the issues coming in. And Vega was a kind of wtf in ME3.

[UpUpAway]

I think DA:I failed to really develop a lot of characters and plots that got treatment in books, so I think that's where you see the issues coming in. And Vega was a kind of wtf in ME3.

 

Still, understanding Vega in depth in ME3 wasn't really critical to playing ME3 and enjoying Vega simply as a tanky squadmate with a few quirks.  Sure, it might have been nice to see him fleshed out a bit more within the game... but it wasn't really critcal to the story.

[AlanC9]

I think DA:I failed to really develop a lot of characters and plots that got treatment in books, so I think that's where you see the issues coming in. And Vega was a kind of wtf in ME3.

Yeah, I heard that when people were discussing WEWH in particular. My impression has been that reading the DA books first would be outright counterproductive, though. My Inquisitor wouldn't know any of that stuff, and if I had read them, that'd just be more stuff I'd need to forget while playing.

WEWH works better if the Inquisitor, depending on choices, can reasonably conclude that Celene is stupid enough to be a liability.

[In Exile]

Still, understanding Vega in depth in ME3 wasn't really critical to playing ME3 and enjoying Vega simply as a tanky squadmate with a few quirks.  Sure, it might have been nice to see him fleshed out a bit more within the game... but it wasn't really critcal to the story.

 

It's not about understanding Vega. I just had absolutely no idea who this guy was and why Shepard knew him. I actually liked Vega just fine and didn't really see an issue with his character in ME3 - it's the introduction that was nonsense, because Mass Effect never separated out what Shepard knew from what the player knew before (and I avoided spoilers, so I had no idea why Shepard was really on Earth).

 

Yeah, I heard that when people were discussing WEWH in particular. My impression has been that reading the DA books first would be outright counterproductive, though. My Inquisitor wouldn't know any of that stuff, and if I had read them, that'd just be more stuff I'd need to forget while playing.

WEWH works better if the Inquisitor, depending on choices, can reasonably conclude that Celene is stupid enough to be a liability.

 

I actually didn't have an issue with WEWH per se, in that I didn't think it was any less well-set up than the Landsmeet in DA:O. It was a lot briefer but we got a sense of everyone and these were all bit players anyway. I actually think the books made these bit players seem a lot more important than they actually were to the story in DA:I, so you basically had people confused that the bit actors didn't get bigger parts.

 

But I was actually thinking about Cole and his posse. The ones we had a war table mission on. It comes out a bit out of the blue and w/o context.  

[Addictress]

I thought the Landsmeet was waaaaayyy better developed than Halamshiral. Kidding me?

[UpUpAway]

It's not about understanding Vega. I just had absolutely no idea who this guy was and why Shepard knew him. I actually liked Vega just fine and didn't really see an issue with his character in ME3 - it's the introduction that was nonsense, because Mass Effect never separated out what Shepard knew from what the player knew before (and I avoided spoilers, so I had no idea why Shepard was really on Earth).

 

 

I actually didn't have an issue with WEWH per se, in that I didn't think it was any less well-set up than the Landsmeet in DA:O. It was a lot briefer but we got a sense of everyone and these were all bit players anyway. I actually think the books made these bit players seem a lot more important than they actually were to the story in DA:I, so you basically had people confused that the bit actors didn't get bigger parts.

 

But I was actually thinking about Cole and his posse. The ones we had a war table mission on. It comes out a bit out of the blue and w/o context.  

 

I thought there were adequate visual clues to determine that Shepard was in an Alliance Detention Center and that, between the conversation with Vega and subsequent one with Anderson shortly afterward that it wasn't all that hard to figure out that Vega had been assigned as Shepard's guard... which is really all the introduction he needed at that point.  It's also easy to assume that he just winds up hanging out with Ashley or Kaidan after Shepard goes into the meeting... which is how he winds up on the Normandy.  I've never actually read the books to this day, but I don't feel like I really need a whole bunch more information than that.

[Blueblood]

The books are good and all, but I just wish it was all more contained. In the game. I wish the game was the only source I needed.

[HydroFlame20]

For the first time I will get these books and I am looking forward to it plus a good read.

[KotorEffect3]

So in other words one reason why they are mum on more info about the how and why we end up in Andromeda is because they want us to buy the books.

[AlanC9]

But I was actually thinking about Cole and his posse. The ones we had a war table mission on. It comes out a bit out of the blue and w/o context.

Well, some of that comes up in convos with Cole. I didn't know there was any more to it.

[In Exile]

I thought there were adequate visual clues to determine that Shepard was in an Alliance Detention Center and that, between the conversation with Vega and subsequent one with Anderson shortly afterward that it wasn't all that hard to figure out that Vega had been assigned as Shepard's guard... which is really all the introduction he needed at that point.  It's also easy to assume that he just winds up hanging out with Ashley or Kaidan after Shepard goes into the meeting... which is how he winds up on the Normandy.  I've never actually read the books to this day, but I don't feel like I really need a whole bunch more information than that.

 

It's not that ME3 doesn't set itself up, it's that the set-up is a non-sequitur. When we leave ME2, Shepard has a fully autonomous ship run by an AI (potentially fully crewed), with (potentially) Spectre status. And is located somewhere in the Attican Traverse, and certainly at the limits of Council space and outside Alliance jurisdiction. I have no explanation for how Shepard was in detention, which is a substantial turnabout, or how Shepard built this relationship with Vega. The answer is apparently Arrival: Shepard turns himself in. But that doesn't really make sense to me at all. 

 

I don't have an issue for how Vega ended up on the Normandy, I just think the plot of ME3 does not at all explain to me how we get from ME2 to ME3. As stupid and hokey as ME2's introduction is with the Collectors, it at least follows logically from ME1: the Normandy is hunting geth, and the Normandy gets attacked. That part I can at least follow. 

 

Well, some of that comes up in convos with Cole. I didn't know there was any more to it.

 

I just found it hard to follow, and not in the usual way Cole's narration is tough to follow. 

[AlanC9]

That's probably why DAI made Legacy canon.