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Ain't my fault you don't like the armor. Tell you what, next time you see admiral Hackett let him know and remind him that thermal clips are impractical. ;) Its gettin kind of dumb now that I think about arguing over some armor cups. :rolleyes:

 

Well, why do you argue then? There is only ONE reason anybody here has mention in why there should be boobplates in the game: They want to see breast (that is covered by the way). :rolleyes:

There hasn't been any logical to why they should.


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Please no butthole guns!

Someone somewhere has a pic for that!

Whoever that person is has no friends.
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Well, why do you argue then? There is only ONE reason anybody here has mention in why there should be boobplates in the game: They want to see breast (that is covered by the way). :rolleyes:
There hasn't been any logical to why they should.

True. I'm just sayin that they are here to stay and apparently people in the ME Universe wear it em. It's whatever.

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True. I'm just sayin that they are here to stay and apparently people in the ME Universe wear it em.

 

Well, that they have been in previous game does not make it certain that they are in me:a. (Me1 didn't have them, so they may go back.)



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Please no butthole guns! 
 
Someone somewhere has a pic for that!


Boy, do I have the answer for that!

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Well, that they have been in previous game does not make it certain that they are in me:a. (Me1 didn't have them, so they may go back.)

ME1 did have em. They'll probably have somethin a little different but from what I've seen. I'm not too sure.

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I like what The Iron Bull has to say:

 

Iron Bull: Hey, that's some good armor.
Cassandra: Are you referring to me?
Iron Bull: Some high-ranking women wear ornamental crap with ****** hammered into it.
Iron Bull: One good shot, and all that cleavage gets knocked right into the sternum.  Real messy.
Iron Bull: Good on you for going practical.
Cassandra: I aim to please.
Iron Bull: Leaves something to the imagination, too.


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Boy, do I have the answer for that!

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lol, I sort of grossed myself out. My mind often goes to weird places but I don't usually post it! Bedtime, methinks!



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I like what The Iron Bull has to say:

Iron Bull: Hey, that's some good armor.
Cassandra: Are you referring to me?
Iron Bull: Some high-ranking women wear ornamental crap with ****** hammered into it.
Iron Bull: One good shot, and all that cleavage gets knocked right into the sternum. Real messy.
Iron Bull: Good on you for going practical.
Cassandra: I aim to please.
Iron Bull: Leaves something to the imagination, too.

We'll see. It really doesn't matter either way but like all hetero men we like to see somethin. Anyone who says the otherwise is a Liar. Maybe for casual if the don't do boobcups but it looks like they are.

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It's the bloody future. They make it comfortable.

 
A flat chest piece can grant the same comfortability while increasing chest protection whereas a non-flat chest piece decreases protection. It remains a design choice without any semblence of practicality and outright introduces impracticalities such as the aforementioned decrease in chest protection. This is especially given that padding to decrease uncomfortability in men and women when wearing armor actually more or less neutralizes a person's shape thus there should be no need for breast bulges especially of that size and that visible. It's like nipples on a breastplate except this design choice legitimately endangers the person it is suppose to be protecting.
 
In the article I previously sourced, a commentator brought up that it seems a design choice that is intended towards portraying that women are an established and common part of the military. The problem is that the design choice actually undercuts this portrayal because the armor does not seem designed with practicality in mind which it should have been had.
 
Additionally, I should note that I actually think it can make the armor appear to look more like ceremonial armor which places an emphasis on aesthetical value rather than practical value. This is, of course, barring cases where titillation is the intent behind the design choice.
 
Also, breasts are very squishy things as explained in this quote;

"As if that wasn’t enough, twin-bulged breastplates ignore the anatomical makeup of the female breast itself. To make a long story short, the breast largely consists of fat and modified sweat glands (for the production of milk, that is), and hence it’s not nearly as solid as a comparable mass of muscle. So all but the largest breasts can be bound quite flat against the woman’s chest without occasioning too much discomfort. In turn, this means a fighting woman probably isn’t going to need a breastplate with a chest profile larger than one worn by a fighting man of a similar height and general body shape, and therefore it’s quite likely that the woman would simply fit into the man’s breastplate with the aid of some padding to make up the slack in the waist and shoulders."

This is not to say that people, regardless of gender, cannot like the asethetic of the armor but it is to say that it remains a design choice that has no sense behind it from a logical, functional or practical perspective as far as I can tell.
 
Source: http://l-clausewitz....com/384382.html


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A flat chest piece can grant the same comfortability while increasing chest protection whereas a non-flat chest piece decreases protection. It remains a design choice without any semblence of practicality and outright introduces impracticalities such as the aforementioned decrease in chest protection. This is especially given that padding to decrease uncomfortability in men and women when wearing armor actually more or less neutralizes a person's shape thus there shoudl be no need for breast bulges especially of that size and that visible.

In the article I previously sourced, a commentator brought up that it seems a design choice that is intended towards portraying that women are an established and common part of the military. The problem is that the design choice actually undercuts this portrayal because the armor does not seem designed with practicality in mind which it should have been had.

Additionally, I should note that I actually think it can make the armor appear to look more like ceremonial armor which places an emphasis on aesthetical value rather than practical value. This is, of course, barring cases where titillation is the intent behind the design choice.

Also, breasts are very squishy things as explained in this quote;

"As if that wasn’t enough, twin-bulged breastplates ignore the anatomical makeup of the female breast itself. To make a long story short, the breast largely consists of fat and modified sweat glands (for the production of milk, that is), and hence it’s not nearly as solid as a comparable mass of muscle. So all but the largest breasts can be bound quite flat against the woman’s chest without occasioning too much discomfort. In turn, this means a fighting woman probably isn’t going to need a breastplate with a chest profile larger than one worn by a fighting man of a similar height and general body shape, and therefore it’s quite likely that the woman would simply fit into the man’s breastplate with the aid of some padding to make up the slack in the waist and shoulders."

This is not to say that people, regardless of gender, cannot like the asethetic of the armor but it is to say that it remains a design choice that has no logic behind it from a logical, functional or practical perspective as far as I can tell.

Source: http://l-clausewitz....com/384382.html

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Also, breasts are very squishy things


What? No, they feel like a bag of sand ... when you touch them ...

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I just really stopped caring a comment ago.

 

Yeah but I found what I've sourced to be fascinating reading so I'm using the oppertunity to share it. It would be nice to have the option to wear the male-version of the various armors for those that want to skip out on the boob sockets if the team wants to keep them in.
 


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>BioWare gives EDI giant camel-toe

>camel-toe is blocked by the BSN vulgarity filter(replace the dash with a space)

 

Yeah, I think BioWare could reel back the sexualization and fanservice a bit.



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>BioWare gives EDI giant camel-toe
>camel-toe is blocked by the BSN vulgarity filter(replace the dash with a space)
 
Yeah, I think BioWare could reel back the sexualization and fanservice a bit.


Actually, they gave Dr. Eva Core some beavage, and they copy-pasted that outfit into an entirely optional, DLC-only alternate appearance for EDI.
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>BioWare gives EDI giant camel-toe

>camel-toe is blocked by the BSN vulgarity filter(replace the dash with a space)

 

Yeah, I think BioWare could reel back the sexualization and fanservice a bit.

 

Yeah, there's little to no logic behind that design choice either. Seriously, Eva was suppose to pose as a respectable scientist in a professional enviroment: why would she have a camel-toe in that outfit?

 

Edi having it had the same lack of sense to it since you'd have thought someone would have asked her to adjust her outfit especially since she might not know it.


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We'll see. It really doesn't matter either way but like all hetero men we like to see somethin. Anyone who says the otherwise is a Liar. Maybe for casual if the don't do boobcups but it looks like they are.

 

I have to agree with the first part, even though I definitely prefer practicality over aesthetics in games to get good immersion a little bit of sensible sexiness does not hurt.  However, in my humble opinion getting said subtle sexiness simply via putting two giant peaks on the chest armor, putting the characters in skin tight catsuits or making crotch bulges - besides dramatically decreasing realism and immersion- feels just super in-yo-face blunt, unimaginative, clumsy and juvenile. That's a total artistic fail. 

 

There are much better ways to create sexiness while preserving immersion and suspension of disbelief. 


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What? No, they feel like a bag of sand ... when you touch them ...

 

From what I know, most breasts tend to feel pretty squishy and sometimes jiggly.
 



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Yeah but I found what I've sourced to be fascinating reading so I'm using the oppertunity to share it. It would be nice to have the option to wear the male-version of the various armors for those that want to skip out on the boob sockets if the team wants to keep them in.

I appreciate that.

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Yeah, there's little to no logic behind that design choice either. Seriously, Eva was suppose to pose as a respectable scientist in a professional enviroment: why would she have a camel-toe in that outfit?


Same reason Miranda paraded around in an almost identical outfit, with a cameltoe and a bubble butt.

Same reason reporter Emily Wong parades around in this:

emily-wong.png

Same reason the medics and other scientists run around in this skin-tight, suggestive getup:

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What? No, they feel like a bag of sand ... when you touch them ...

Only Kevin Kline's.   ;)


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>BioWare gives EDI giant camel-toe
>camel-toe is blocked by the BSN vulgarity filter(replace the dash with a space)
 
Yeah, I think BioWare could reel back the sexualization and fanservice a bit.


Eh, adds character.
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Same reason Miranda paraded around in an almost identical outfit, with a cameltoe and a bubble butt.Same reason reporter Emily Wong parades around in this:emily-wong.pngSame reason the medics and other scientists run around in this skin-tight, suggestive getup:me_packtextures_hd_25.jpg


I think most women would want to show off their body if they looked as good as Dr. Chakwas at her age.

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All I really want to add is that a sportsbra is better for working out and doing actual physical labor, whereas a pushup bra is better for an evening out.

 

And that principle probably extends to space armor vs space casual wear.

 

But as long as it's optional and there's no breather masks in vacuum, I won't get too fussed. Unless it's Javik, which was a double standard and also hilarious, soooo.... Yeah, unless it's ridiculous and completely pointless, I won't get fussed.



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Only Kevin Kline's.   ;)


Sigh. I debated whether to like your post for understanding that reference. It's not exactly a badge of honor.
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