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#601
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Yes she did, at least when going into a vacuum or hazardous enviornments. The lore states that shields and biotics do not protect people from enviornmental hazards, so Miranda and any character not in a sealed suit would be killed multiple times per game because of their clothing. Mass Effect 1 knew this, so every squad member had a fully sealed suit when the situation required it. 

 

I was talking about regular tactical combat, not space-faring combat whilst on non-adaptable planets or in space. I would like to see all characters in sealed suits in those situations, doesn't mean it has to be a bulky pillowsuit either. It can be a tight fitting suit copacetic to their regular armor.  

 

 

 

Hammerstorm, on 04 Jul 2016 - 5:55 PM, said:

 

Well, Garrus did survive a rocket to the face, so I would say that is point in favor OF armor. :P
Kai Leng I can tolerate, for he actually DID move as he had less armor and tried to avoid frontal attacks.

 

Garrus can die at the end of ME2 by one bullet to the stomach. Kai Leng wasn't too tactical about frontal attacks when Shepard kabab'ed him.

 

 

 

i guess you mean that they NOT are noob off the the street? That makes it even more ridiculous, not less. If they have training and experience they know that clothes does very little against bullets and other objects that can hit you in battle. If the game wanted me to believe that they was dressed that way because the way they fighted, they should had made them act that way.

 

Whoops. I did mean not! :P Fixed that. Kinectic Barriers protect against mass accelerated weapons and other projectiles. That alone is pretty good "armor" in and of itself and coupled with a biotic barriers not only doing the same thing, but also making their shields stronger--I would say they have as good of a chance as anyone else who wore heavy armor/shields.**

 

The tight leather "catsuits" can definitely be reinforced with ballistic weaves and whatever else that's used in the universe. Along with a shield/barrier combo, they are well protected. Samara's cleavage isn't going to be the cause of her death. As in, if something is so powerful that can bypass a shield and biotic barrier, I highly doubt a chest plate is going to make much a difference in survival. It would be like wearing safety goggles during an explosion. It would be the same if you're just wearing heavy armor with shields--if something can bypass your shields and armor, you're dead.

 

 

 

 That someone die because they are caught off guard by ambush/having bad luck has no relevance on the topic.

 

I'd say it does. if your shields are down, you're vulnerable at best, caught off guard at worst. Garrus was wearing heavy armor and got caught off-guard and was hit with one bullet and died. So, if by chance Miranda has her biotic barrier interrupted and shields axed at the same time, I doubt her wearing heavy armor would have saved her. Didn't save Garrus. 

 

But as I said, I don't consider anyone's armor, save Jack's as particularly revealing. I don't care either way, if a revealing armor was released, I most likely wouldn't wear it and I don't care if someone else does. With every companion, they eventually released thicker and more "practical" looking armors and there is no reason to believe they wouldn't again. In fact, I would like to see them do that in-game. That is what I want. I want you to have a choice of more "practical" looking armor and I want to have an option for skin-fitting armors. And if they brought back ME1's armor, this game would be a Day-one preorder midnight pick-up for me.

 

**I know Shields and Barriers will not protect against hazardous materials and radiation, etc.



#602
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in combat they shoul wear combat appropriate attire.

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Hm.... Looks like your wish has come true.

 

In the Behind the Scene video of EA PLAY, starting @1:19, the combatants are wearing suitable combat gear.  The only ??? I have is why the "good guys" are wearing helmets when clearly you don't need them (see the civilian in the background?).



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Armors should be practical. Casual clothes should be revealing.

On second thought, why bother with casual clothes at all? Make all the characters nudists.

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LOL.

Well, that takes care of the "sexualized" crap viewpoint for sure.



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revealing makes me think of like skimpy armor that hardly covers anything. is that what the OP means? or does the OP mean stuff like miranda's outfit when she/he says "revealing."

 

anyway,

 

if its revealing, does it count as armor? 

 

does it have to be revealing to be seen as sexualised?

 

is sexualised armor the real problem here? ala miranda's entire ass printing out. that's sexualised yes. but that covered her body entirely. as opposed to this

 

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either way i hate the labels of revealing/sexualised/practical. and i love the way outfits were done in me2. i loved jack's and miranda's outfits because they 100% suited the character and the personality.

 

and i think that's the way outfits should be done going forward.



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>your personality will make your skin and thin catsuit bulletproof and spaceworthy

 

>mfw

 

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#606
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>your personality will make your skin and thin catsuit bulletproof and spaceworthy

 

>mfw

 

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If that is what it's relied on, I feel sorry for some people around here. They're as good as dead.



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I wouldn't mind Miranda's outfit if it wasn't for the dang wedgie.

 

PANTS DO NOT WORK LIKE THAT. IT WOULD BE INCREDIBLY UNCOMFORTABLE. And then the camera dwells on it and reminds me that her pants are creeping north for the winter. Ouch.


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I wouldn't mind Miranda's outfit if it wasn't for the dang wedgie.

 

PANTS DO NOT WORK LIKE THAT. IT WOULD BE INCREDIBLY UNCOMFORTABLE. And then the camera dwells on it and reminds me that her pants are creeping north for the winter. Ouch.

I agree about the camera zooms. It didn't bother me beyond some eye rolls, but I did wonder why they kept doing that over and over again lol. It was annoyingly amusing. 



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This is a troll post, even if you don't realize it.

Aren't they all at this point?
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If I spent time, modelling an @ss that good, you bet she'd have a skintight, impractical battle outfit with camera angles showing it off.

 

Be proud of your work people. Show it off.

If you got it, flaunt it. Also, if you code it, flaunt it too.


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If I spent time, modelling an @ss that good, you bet she'd have a skintight, impractical battle outfit with camera angles showing it off.

Be proud of your work people. Show it off.
If you got it, flaunt it. Also, if you code it, flaunt it too.

If you make fan service for women like Cullen, give men more fan service like Miranda or Aria.

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If you make fan service for women like Cullen, give men more fan service like Miranda or Aria.

Actually, make what you want. There's no obligation to alter your vision for balance.


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I wouldn't mind Miranda's outfit if it wasn't for the dang wedgie.

 

PANTS DO NOT WORK LIKE THAT. IT WOULD BE INCREDIBLY UNCOMFORTABLE. And then the camera dwells on it and reminds me that her pants are creeping north for the winter. Ouch.

I don't know what country you live in but I see women everyday with pants as tight as Miranda's.... so yes pants very much do work like that(women's at least). How they find it comfortable I'll never know... thankfully I'm a guy


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If you make fan service for women like Cullen, give men more fan service like Miranda or Aria.

How is that an equal comparison? Cullen wore appropriate armor. Miranda and Aria did not. The female Mass Effect version would be something like Tali or Ashley, who wear appropriate armor but still allows fanservice by being aesthetically pleasing. 



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How is that an equal comparison? Cullen wore appropriate armor. Miranda and Aria did not. The female Mass Effect version would be something like Tali or Ashley, who wear appropriate armor but still allows fanservice by being aesthetically pleasing.

Please....Cullen was built like a beast, you know, with his shirt off.

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Actually, make what you want. There's no obligation to alter your vision for balance.

True. I just have preferences.

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Please....Cullen was built like a beast, you know, with his shirt off.

Which never happened on the battlefield or when exploring. The only time he wasn't wearing appropriate armor was when it wasn't required. 



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Which never happened on the battlefield or when exploring. The only time he wasn't wearing appropriate armor was when it wasn't required.

Was I talking about the battlefield? I had no idea.

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Was I talking about the battlefield? I had no idea.

This topic is about practical or revealing armor for the characters, so yes it involves the battlefield. 



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This topic is about practical or revealing armor for the characters, so yes it involves the battlefield.

Hey I just want good lookin people.

#621
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Hey I just want good lookin people.

You can still have that while said people are wearing armor appropriate for the situation. 



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Hey I just want good lookin people.

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You can still have that while said people are wearing armor appropriate for the situation.

Like I didn't already know that. But why make a big deal out of it? Miranda looked great while in that catsuit and she was protected just fine apparently. I'll be honest with you, as long as they perform well in combat then its all good. Kinetic barriers and carbon nanotubes. Did you know they have bullet proof suits now?

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Aren't they all at this point?

The real trolls are the few legit fans that still haven't figured out this is a troll den and interrupt the discourse with serious posts.


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The real trolls are the few legit fans that still haven't figured out this is a troll den and interrupt the discourse with serious posts.

It's the black widow's den here. To be honest I wish there was some more serious talk and not all this shenanigans, foolishness.