Are we sure the armor isn't at least somewhat powered? I mean it already has an onboard computer, sensor suite, communication's package, kinetic barrier emitters, etc. And now jump-jets.
It may not be an Iron Man suit, but it's gotta be close.
I want this armor for female please, it's very practical.
I don't care if it's gonna melt anyway by enemy laser.
Are we sure the armor isn't at least somewhat powered? I mean it already has an onboard computer, sensor suite, communication's package, kinetic barrier emitters, etc. And now jump-jets.
It may not be an Iron Man suit, but it's gotta be close.
It might be smart, but not powered. Shepard is not stronger, faster, more mobile or more anything in those lines in the armor. Indeed, the armor clearly doesn't weigth that much, as we've seen it ban easily put on. Indeed, that's why I think most squadmates' costumes make sense in ME2 (unless in some context like spaceships or tocix environmets).
I mean, the most protection the suit gives comes from the shield, so in many ways, Miranda's costume is as protective as Shepard's armor.
I want this armor for female please, it's very practical.
I don't care if it's gonna melt anyway by enemy laser.
No boob window?
No thanks I like practical thing.
I want this armor for female please, it's very practical.
I don't care if it's gonna melt anyway by enemy laser.
Such a nasty person. Who hurt you? Who did this to you?
What's more, I have explained the weapons advancement. No one else seemed to have trouble understanding it, but you. It is explained right in the quote you posted, as was the answer to why someone would choose it. You seem to have trouble comprehending what is right in your face. Maybe it's your dispostion that blocks any civil discourse. Or maybe you don't want to comprehend it, because if you did, you'd have to admit that, "You don't want them because you just don't like the way the silly things look"
Now, for your last caustic sentence: Show me one post here that says I want this armor for any other reason than "because I like the way it looks". I was merely trying to show how it could be within the realm of possibility. In fact, I have stated many times that I like the way it looks. That I want this armor because I like the way it looks lol. So, way to figure that one out, Scooby Doo.
Your entire premise is "armor is so advanced that it doesn't need to be anything more than catsuits and leather straps." That's illogical nonsense, no matter who you're talking to. You didn't address weapons advancements, you ignored them. You didn't address choosing bulky armor over no armor, you halfheartedly posited that armor and no armor are the same thing.
Your argument is a silly one. Period.
I like how you guessed the exact weight of a video game armor just by briefly looking at it.
Even medieval full steel plate mail only weighed around 35kg / 77lbs tops and knights could run, fence, roll and make back flips in it. With todays composites and light ballistic fabrics armor weighs far less so I find it endlessly amusing you assuming the armor in a video game taking place far in the future weighs 150 kilograms and encumbers the wearer. Armor in the 14th century didn't encumber the wearer much, I guess 800 years later armor has become even better.
But if you want to find excuses to run around on the battlefield -where the air is filled with razor sharp shrapnel and bullets traveling several times the speed of sound- in ''revealing armor'' or even as you mentioned, with a naked upper body, be my guest.
You might be a little bit quicker but can you outrun and dodge shrapnel and bullets?
Back in the 80s when I was a kid, my favorite toy was GI Joe. And among them, the ones I liked best were those who wore heavy armor, they were theoretically strongest. Until one day my father explained to me that a helmet was not designed to stop a bullet. It simply does not have resistance to do it.
Then I began to see armor with different eyes. I can not look at a bulky armor and find idiot. That´s the best post on this thread (only read pag1 and 33 lol)
Here's the thing: bullets aren't the only thing people need to be protected from in a hostile environment. The lore says that shields are designed to stop projectiles moving at a super-fast velocity while ignoring slower-moving objects. That's why people are able to, for example, sit down in a chair with their shields up.
But our explorers also need to be protected from other hazards - like falling debris, shrapnel, extreme weather conditions, animal bites, melee attacks - and that usually involves some additional blow-absorptive padding. They need enough room in their suits to accommodate their health monitors, oxygen supplies, pressure stabilizers, medigel dispensers, battery packs, and maybe even to carry some additional survival gear.
You want to protect yourself from bullets? Kinetic barriers.
Want to protect yourself from environmental dangers, splinters, etc.? Armor. LIGHT ARMOR, because you also may need...I dont know, climb a ladder. Or crawl through a confined space. Or get up if you fall.
Talking about other games as a example
some really heavy armors here (love the guy with a skull on his visor). But the Spartans have superpowers, they are much more strong then a regular man. Noble Team are awesome.
Now, look at this MESS
Had a very interesting topic in Bethesda´s forum where a real-life military made heavy criticism of this armor. The main point is that no one in their right mind would use that kind of crap in the legs. I doubt you can flex it.
And that type of armor is very Mass Effect look like (I speak of the fact that every part of the body has a metal plate).
He said the best and most realistic armor from the serie is the Veteran NCR Ranger. A helmet, a coat, a gas mask, boots, jeans, and a bulletproof vest.
Back to ME, what's with those shoulder pads? Why? WHY? What is the purpose of that extra weight?
Now, all my criticism I do in relation to weight and mobility and I see that you put the issue of the weight in check. But understand, the visual impact bother me. I look at this armor that I posted before and I can only see someone falling and trying to get up and failing, like an upside down turtle.
So that´s why I go to the battlefield with a naked upper body 
LOL
Yeah sometime people forget in ME universe what important is not about skin, but shield generator.
Back in the 80s when I was a kid, my favorite toy was GI Joe. And among them, the ones I liked best were those who wore heavy armor, they were theoretically strongest. Until one day my father explained to me that a helmet was not designed to stop a bullet. It simply does not have resistance to do it.
Then I began to see armor with different eyes. I can not look at a bulky armor and find idiot. That´s is the best post on this thread (only read pag1 and 33 lol)
So I can go naked into battle, with a shield generator strapped to my crotch? Cool!You want to protect yourself from bullets? Kinetic barriers.
I'm not aware of any real life armor except bomb suits that do not allow enough monility to climb freaking ladders. Me thinks you have no experience with body armor. At all.Want to protect yourself from environmental dangers, splinters, etc.? Armor. LIGHT ARMOR, because you also may need...I dont know, climb a ladder. Or crawl through a confined space. Or get up if you fall.
Like I said, no experience with body armor whatsoever.Now, all my criticism I do in relation to weight and mobility and I see that you put the issue of the weight in check. But understand, the visual impact bother me. I look at this armor that I posted before and I can only see someone falling and trying to get up and failing, like an upside down turtle.
Armor today consists of relatively light weight composites. What makes you think ME armors in the far future consist of metal plates?And that type of armor is very Mass Effect look like (I speak of the fact that every part of the body has a metal plate).
Yeah sometime people forget in ME universe what important is not about skin, but shield generator.
Shields and barriers deplete in hazardous enviroment.
I'm not particularly convinced video games were particularly good at even embracing this one community - it's not that long ago when video games were not an especially tolerated hobby (in the cultural mainstream). And the games that did receive critical acclaim were not necessarily the ones that struggled with gender or sexuality issues.
I actually think the recent debacle with the Hugo awards presents a good comparison - it's more than a cultural subgroup is trying to assert itself over a field that passively catered to them more by accident of history than any other reason and is now simply moving away from that as the audience and content creators become more diverse.
More like an expression of annoyance towards a group that'll mock, harass and give "criticism" if a game doesn't fit their shallow standards of diversity.
Plot armor is the only armor I'll ever take into combat.
The Cerberus Ajax armor or the N7 demo are the most human-like and realist tbh
Modern helmets with the protection rating of IIIA offer ballistic protection against service handgun rounds (9mm, .40, .45), shrapnel, shotgun round and bullets up to .44 magnum.
Tell that the numerous soldiers who survived getting hit in the chest, head and back only thanks to their armor. I think you look way more idiotic laying in the dirt and bleeding to death.
So I can go naked into battle, with a shield generator strapped to my crotch? Cool!
But what if my shields fail? I heard stuff like this happens all the time in the ME universe.
I'm not aware of any real life armor except bomb suits that do not allow enough monility to climb freaking ladders. Me thinks you have no experience with body armor. At all.
Like I said, no experience with body armor whatsoever.
I own body armor myself and I find your comments about armor hysterical. Let me tell you, body armor even today is pretty good, it does not slow you down, offers very good ballistic protection, and does not mess with your mobility. The only two downsides I can think of is its expensive and it can get hot.
Armor today consists of relatively light weight composites. What makes you think ME armors in the far future consist of metal plates?
Cool. But I doubt that this weird glasses that the woman of your image is wearing also has the same protective capacity.
Not problem at all with helmets, bulletproof vests, knee and elbow pads. That´s why I exemplify Liara´s armor as a good option.
Hazards of the profession? There is only one way a soldier have 100% chance of not getting shot. Do not go to work. Obviously safety measures must be taken. Again, Liara's armor.
I never even hold a gun (and hope to remain so) the more wear armor. Any kind of violence I only think it's cool in fiction.
Some of these armors are similar to this?
Like I said, visual impact
Like I said, visual impact
Sort of like your rainbow post, huh?
You get used to him. He has a reputation for being a jerk. But he's right sometimes. I stress sometimes.Such a nasty person. Who hurt you? Who did this to you?
What's more, I have explained the weapons advancement. No one else seemed to have trouble understanding it, but you. It is explained right in the quote you posted, as was the answer to why someone would choose it. You seem to have trouble comprehending what is right in your face. Maybe it's your dispostion that blocks any civil discourse. Or maybe you don't want to comprehend it, because if you did, you'd have to admit that, "You don't want them because you just don't like the way the silly things look"
Now, for your last caustic sentence: Show me one post here that says I want this armor for any other reason than "because I like the way it looks". I was merely trying to show how it could be within the realm of possibility. In fact, I have stated many times that I like the way it looks. That I want this armor because I like the way it looks lol. So, way to figure that one out, Scooby Doo.
Your entire premise is "armor is so advanced that it doesn't need to be anything more than catsuits and leather straps." That's illogical nonsense, no matter who you're talking to.
My premise is that? Oh, please show me where I said this lol. First of all, please show me anywhere in this thread where I stated anything about Jack's leather straps as armor. Especially when I have stated a few times that she is excluded from my examples because of her outfit. So, please. Stop making up things to suit your own little "argument". In fact, what I said---and pay attention--is that today we have made armor beyond what can be imagined, so it isn't out of the realm of possibility that armors made hundreds of years into the future could also be ahead of the game and would allow more tight-fitting armors to be worn. You're the one who keeps calling Miranda's armor a catsuit. I wouldn't be so dismissive about it. I said that her armor style would be in the realm of possibility, especially when pieces could be added to it, and enhancements. Such as Ablative coating, combat exoskeletons, energized plating (Which I wore with my light armor in ME1), also the normal exoskeleton upgrade which offers protection against high physics weapons. There are also Shield Interfacing as well as the second power source for shields that come with the re generator. And I could be wrong about this: but wasn't there even a toxic suit upgrade that helped with hazardous environments? This cutting edge is available in the Mass Effect universe, I wore a lot of them with light armor in my playthrough. So, yeah, it is in the realm of possibility in this fictional setting.
You didn't address weapons advancements, you ignored them.
As weapons advance, so does the armor. I am not sure how many ways one can explain this. It is why there is a mutual study of each. Armor 1 is made for type A bullets. Type B bullets are made to destroy Armor 1. Studies are conducted on Type B bullets, so they make Armor 2, that can protect against Type B bullets and so on and so on. That is about as elementary I can go without using flashcards. So if there are weapons that fire baby Pyjaks in Mass Effect, I am sure there is an upgrade to protect against projectile Pyjaks or someone isn't doing their job.
You didn't address choosing bulky armor over no armor, you halfheartedly posited that armor and no armor are the same thing.
Once again, show me where I said this. Show me one sentence even where I stated wearing no armor is equated to wearing none. once again, I stated that an armor like Miranda's could be powerful enough to offer efficient protection, as much as any light armor would. As for why someone would choose bulky armor over light armor, I don't know what answer you expect. If they see both options and choose their character to wear the lighter armor, I assume they liked the aesthetic better, or maybe they didn't want to wear bulky armor or perhaps they are playing a biotic and they want a lighter armor. It's silly to say, "Oh, light armor shouldn't be an option because why would anyone choose heavier armor?" Heavy armor isn't going to take it as personally as you do, I assure you that.
As for my "argument". I don't really care if you find it silly. I find your lack of comprehension a little taxing, but we all have to make sacrifices, don't we? My opinion ("argument" sounds so highschool) is that tight-fitting or light armor should be an option and I hope that it is. This is what I am advocating, I am not sure what you've worked up in your imagination, but can you tell me why this armor is "silly"? Besides the color, perhaps. And ignore the asari in the middle.
Back in the 80s when I was a kid, my favorite toy was GI Joe. And among them, the ones I liked best were those who wore heavy armor, they were theoretically strongest. Until one day my father explained to me that a helmet was not designed to stop a bullet. It simply does not have resistance to do it.
Then I began to see armor with different eyes. I can not look at a bulky armor and find idiot. That´s the best post on this thread (only read pag1 and 33 lol)
You want to protect yourself from bullets? Kinetic barriers.
Want to protect yourself from environmental dangers, splinters, etc.? Armor. LIGHT ARMOR, because you also may need...I dont know, climb a ladder. Or crawl through a confined space. Or get up if you fall.
Talking about other games as a example
some really heavy armors here (love the guy with a skull on his visor). But the Spartans have superpowers, they are much more strong then a regular man. Noble Team are awesome.
Now, look at this MESS
Had a very interesting topic in Bethesda´s forum where a real-life military made heavy criticism of this armor. The main point is that no one in their right mind would use that kind of crap in the legs. I doubt you can flex it.
And that type of armor is very Mass Effect look like (I speak of the fact that every part of the body has a metal plate).
He said the best and most realistic armor from the serie is the Veteran NCR Ranger. A helmet, a coat, a gas mask, boots, jeans, and a bulletproof vest.
Back to ME, what's with those shoulder pads? Why? WHY? What is the purpose of that extra weight?
Now, all my criticism I do in relation to weight and mobility and I see that you put the issue of the weight in check. But understand, the visual impact bother me. I look at this armor that I posted before and I can only see someone falling and trying to get up and failing, like an upside down turtle.
So that´s why I go to the battlefield with a naked upper body
Images removed for brevity's sake.
The point is more that the NCR Veteran armor is well designed (easily among my favorite armor designs of all time, it looks so cool yet functional in a desert)) while the FO4 heavy combat armor just plain sucks and makes no sense, That's a fault of poorer design from Bethesda, not ''lol all armor weights 150 kilos''. Mass Effect armor isn't anywhere near as bulky as that stuff, especially on the legs and arms.
No armor in existence stops you from getting back up. Not even plate, albeit it might slow you down, but Mass Effect armor never did. The thing you need to consider is that weight is distributed over the entire body. When I was in the Reserve they made us try armor similar to those used by soldiers, in your hands these things look heavy as hell, but when distributed over your body, they do not hinder movement in any significant way, and certainly don't stop you from getting back up if you're a fit person. The worst thing about them is the heat, which I presume is much less of a problem when we're talking about advanced sci-fi armor using composite material and designed to also serve as a hardsuit in space.
I do agree when it comes to shoulder armor, but that's a common video game trope, designers love putting huge shoulderpads to 1) hide shoulder joints, which are hell to animate and 2) make for a more intimidating image. Mass Effect is fairly tame in this regard, next to stuff like Warcraft or 40K. I just handwave that the shoulders house shield batteries.
Because that's another thing. You're naked from the waist up, cool. Where are your shield batteries? Your ammo storage? Your Mass Effect-style gun magnets? Your supply storage? Look at modern military armor, they are covered in pounches and storage compartments for a reason. Most of the armors from ME2 onwards also sported similar doodads, so the designers clearly thought about that too, they just decided only Shepard and a few others wore proper armor.
Miranda's outfit is surely made of something strong. Maybe carbon nanotubes fibers?My premise is that? Oh, please show me where I said this lol. First of all, please show me anywhere in this thread where I stated anything about Jack's leather straps as armor. Especially when I have stated a few times that she is excluded from my examples because of her outfit. So, please. Stop making up things to suit your own little "argument". In fact, what I said---and pay attention--is that today we have made armor beyond what can be imagined, so it isn't out of the realm of possibility that armors made hundreds of years into the future could also be ahead of the game and would allow more tight-fitting armors to be worn. You're the one who keeps calling Miranda's armor a catsuit. I wouldn't be so dismissive about it. I said that her armor style would be in the realm of possibility, especially when pieces could be added to it, and enhancements. Such as Ablative coating, combat exoskeletons, energized plating (Which I wore with my light armor in ME1), also the normal exoskeleton upgrade which offers protection against high physics weapons. There are also Shield Interfacing as well as the second power source for shields that come with the re generator. And I could be wrong about this: but wasn't there even a toxic suit upgrade that helped with hazardous environments? This cutting edge is available in the Mass Effect universe, I wore a lot of them with light armor in my playthrough. So, yeah, it is in the realm of possibility in this fictional setting.
As weapons advance, so does the armor. I am not sure how many ways one can explain this. It is why there is a mutual study of each. Armor 1 is made for type A bullets. Type B bullets are made to destroy Armor 1. Studies are conducted on Type B bullets, so they make Armor 2, that can protect against Type B bullets and so on and so on. That is about as elementary I can go without using flashcards. So if there are weapons that fire baby Pyjaks in Mass Effect, I am sure there is an upgrade to protect against projectile Pyjaks or someone isn't doing their job.
Once again, show me where I said this. Show me one sentence even where I stated wearing no armor is equated to wearing none. once again, I stated that an armor like Miranda's could be powerful enough to offer efficient protection, as much as any light armor would. As for why someone would choose bulky armor over light armor, I don't know what answer you expect. If they see both options and choose their character to wear the lighter armor, I assume they liked the aesthetic better, or maybe they didn't want to wear bulky armor or perhaps they are playing a biotic and they want a lighter armor. It's silly to say, "Oh, light armor shouldn't be an option because why would anyone choose heavier armor?" Heavy armor isn't going to take it as personally as you do, I assure you that.
As for my "argument". I don't really care if you find it silly. I find your lack of comprehension a little taxing, but we all have to make sacrifices, don't we? My opinion ("argument" sounds so highschool) is that tight-fitting or light armor should be an option and I hope that it is. This is what I am advocating, I am not sure what you've worked up in your imagination, but can you tell me why this armor is "silly"? Besides the color, perhaps. And ignore the asari in the middle.
I didn't have any problem with Fallout 4's armor. 
That's fallout though. As long as you have kinetic barriers and good armor you should be fine. If you have no armor and lose your shields, hide behind cover.I didn't have any problem with Fallout 4's armor.
It's future anything can happen. Even a single tiny chip can do wonder, weapons more lethal than ever it could breach or melt anything.
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