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[brunomalta]

 People,

I am quite alarmed for this lack of support on the part of the PS 3 user base. I think that we should avoid paying for any new DLC untill this matter is settled and a proper patch or response from the Devs or moderators appear around here. I mean, it has been almost months since anyone appeared around here.
Don´t tell me they are busy because the PC and X-BOX boards have a lot of them responding. I am not a sony fanboy since i have both consoles.
The only way to let them know about our unhappyness is when their pocket suffers a bit.

[21121313]

I'm more then likely going to get ripped for this.....but i don't care. It needs to be said.

I think it's time people started realizing that the PS3 hardware(as much as i love my PS3) is not so easy to work on. I think it's about time people start admitting to themselves that DLC and patches aren't exactly easy as pie to toss on the PS3 as well.

The fact that we EVEN got this game in the first place is a miracle if you want my personal opinion.

It's Bioware's first PS3 game. Cut them some damn slack. As it is, the game and DLC we got has made me incredibly happy. It is one of the best games on the PS3, hands down.

As for all these framerate complaints, i found one my whole 1st rogue game, and that was in a room where there were so many lootable corpses(it was in Drakon Fort at the end of the game), that the miriad of sparkles just was too much for it, and EVEN then the framerate didn't falter badly enough for me not to move.

I never encountered any bugs that i know of, and as for the graphics...please people, we had screens of the PS3 version before it was released. You knew what you were getting, so please stop complaining about it like you just realized they weren't picture perfect at least a month or longer after it's release.

I love Bioware games :wub:and i want them to continue to develop for the PS3. This is a damned good first go at it from my point of view. Shows cash and tells Bioware to "keep them comin"......

BTW, did any of you ever stop to think if the Bioware guys are here answering questions, then they ain't working on a patch or DLC for the PS3 version?

Modifié par 21121313, 28 janvier 2010 - 01:01 .

[Bagenholt]

They have a community liaison to keep us updated. doesn't effect their work.



I have to agree one with you on "The fact that we EVEN got this game in the first place is a miracle if you want my personal opinion."

[brunomalta]

 

Thread FAIL! 

Modifié par brunomalta, 28 janvier 2010 - 04:13 .

[warwon]

Well I'm not getting any more dlc unitl the PS3 is given support. It's a utter joke that the xbox, and pc get more support.



Not like we paid less, that being said. If it's because of difference in programming fine, but I have a feeling it's not and were just being jerked around.

[Hoondogg]

I will not buy the expansion pack until the PS3 gets a patch. Fight the power!

[Sacrificial Bias]

21121313 wrote...

I'm more then likely going to get ripped for this.....but i don't care. It needs to be said.

I think it's time people started realizing that the PS3 hardware(as much as i love my PS3) is not so easy to work on. I think it's about time people start admitting to themselves that DLC and patches aren't exactly easy as pie to toss on the PS3 as well.

The fact that we EVEN got this game in the first place is a miracle if you want my personal opinion.

It's Bioware's first PS3 game. Cut them some damn slack. As it is, the game and DLC we got has made me incredibly happy. It is one of the best games on the PS3, hands down.

I hate to poke a hole in your logic but-

Oh wait!  What the hell am I talking about?  I LOVE poking holes in bad logic!  It's my favorite activity just after sex and getting drunk!

The old, "It's Bioware's first PS3 game" excuse that has been excessively overused and increasingly repetitive and pathetic only excuses the fact that the PS3 game has a lot of bugs and flaws.  It does NOT however excuse the 2 months that have passed by with ZERO official support from Bioware on any problem that any player ever had for this game.  It does NOT excuse the utter lack of response whatsoever PERIOD.

If they said that Patch 1.02 will come out on the PS3 exactly 6 months from now, even that ridiculous deadline would be an acceptable response over absolutely NOTHING.

As for all these framerate complaints, i found one my whole 1st rogue game, and that was in a room where there were so many lootable corpses(it was in Drakon Fort at the end of the game), that the miriad of sparkles just was too much for it, and EVEN then the framerate didn't falter badly enough for me not to move.

I never encountered any bugs that i know of, and as for the graphics...please people, we had screens of the PS3 version before it was released. You knew what you were getting, so please stop complaining about it like you just realized they weren't picture perfect at least a month or longer after it's release.

No number of screenshots will ever reveal the instances in which you are forced to wait 2 minutes for loot to appear on corpses between EVERY SINGLE FIGHT.

I also ask what kind of screenshots are available now that reveals not only that bug, but also the infamous dexterity bug, game-breaking bugs that loop a certain conversation over and over again, the game-breaking bug that stops you from progressing any further in "A Paragon of Her Kind", the tactics lines that don't do a damn thing, or item effects that don't work.

Perhaps screenshots aren't everything, and most bugs in a game don't show themselves unless you've played it thoroughly.

I love Bioware games :wub:and i want them to continue to develop for the PS3. This is a damned good first go at it from my point of view. Shows cash and tells Bioware to "keep them comin"......

BTW, did any of you ever stop to think if the Bioware guys are here answering questions, then they ain't working on a patch or DLC for the PS3 version?

......Because taking 5 minutes out of your day to write a response to the angry and unsatisfied customers will obviously hold back a DLC or patch for the next month or two?  Oh wait!  Return to Ostagar is already delayed to the apocalypse!  But wait...where's the posted response that took 60 seconds to type and ended up delaying the entire project for months? o.O

Talking to you brings back an eerie sense of deja vu where I talked to this religious fanatic from the middle east over the internet who says that Americans are agents of Satan and that science is evil and the tools of Satan.  When I pointed out that the computer he was using and the house he was living in was made with scientific knowledge and that he should stop using both if he was so insistent that "science is evil", he promptly ignored me and rambled on, which kind of makes me wonder if I didn't just waste 15 minutes of my life responding to you.

[brunomalta]

Ok...good to know that i´m not alone on this one then!

The truth is, Microsoft pays better and Sony is suffering for it. We choose the worst version of the game and now we are paying the price. I really don´t believe that we will get an answer soon or at all. Just look and see that no moderator even comes to this board. This is such a middle finger to us that it makes me sad.

It does not make any sense to me on why we have to look on EA board on technical help since it was Bioware who made this crap on the first place. This is consumer support at it´s worst. 

Modifié par brunomalta, 28 janvier 2010 - 07:44 .

[Rugerious]

Does anyone realize that bioware just might not be replying cause of all the bull **** you all complain about. Jesus you dont like it play something else. I'm tired of waiting but all you people do is complain complain complain complain. Bioware doesnt have to help you. If I were in charge I'd say "Til we get respect, **** them"



Now RAGE all you want i dont care. I love my playstation and this game so Ill be ****ing patient

[brunomalta]

We have a right to complain since we bought a product from then and it came out bugged. We are not asking a lot, only some answers from someone from Bioware.

[Hoondogg]

Rugerious wrote...

If I were in charge I'd say "Til we get respect, **** them"

aaahahaha!  If you were in charge with that attitude you would be out of business.  Your post is wrong on all kinds of levels.

[valdermos]

Rugerious wrote...

Does anyone realize that bioware just might not be replying cause of all the bull **** you all complain about. Jesus you dont like it play something else. I'm tired of waiting but all you people do is complain complain complain complain. Bioware doesnt have to help you. If I were in charge I'd say "Til we get respect, **** them"

Now RAGE all you want i dont care. I love my playstation and this game so Ill be ****ing patient

How can you honestly say "if you dont like it play something else" is it a case of everytime you buy something and it doesn't work you say "ah well better luck next time". Everone here has paid 60 quid for the game and if their not happy with it they have the right to complain, no-one is asking bio-ware to reply to every issue, but not replying to anything on the ps3 forum is a bad PR move

[Tabogon]

I enjoy the game, never had any issue with frame rates and don't really care much for the DEX bug as there is CUN build that is just as useful.



It really is quite simple though, the PC and XBOX are just that much easier to code, and I bet anyone that posted before me wouldn't reply to an angry mob either.

You are basically asking someone to step up and get their ass kicked so you guys can feel better about yourselves.

What's even more ironic is the ones who just started the game saying they won't buy DLC and the ones that have already done them trying to encourage the same behavior.

I side with Rugerious, play something else if it pisses you off that much, but you can't complain about issues that have been out before you even bought the game. It's like buying rotten food, eating it and then suing the store you bought it from, when it's really your own dumb ass fault.



Life lesson, look before you leap...suck it up

[ioannisdenton]

21121313 wrote...

I'm more then likely going to get ripped for this.....but i don't care. It needs to be said.

I think it's time people started realizing that the PS3 hardware(as much as i love my PS3) is not so easy to work on. I think it's about time people start admitting to themselves that DLC and patches aren't exactly easy as pie to toss on the PS3 as well.

The fact that we EVEN got this game in the first place is a miracle if you want my personal opinion.

It's Bioware's first PS3 game. Cut them some damn slack. As it is, the game and DLC we got has made me incredibly happy. It is one of the best games on the PS3, hands down.

As for all these framerate complaints, i found one my whole 1st rogue game, and that was in a room where there were so many lootable corpses(it was in Drakon Fort at the end of the game), that the miriad of sparkles just was too much for it, and EVEN then the framerate didn't falter badly enough for me not to move.

I never encountered any bugs that i know of, and as for the graphics...please people, we had screens of the PS3 version before it was released. You knew what you were getting, so please stop complaining about it like you just realized they weren't picture perfect at least a month or longer after it's release.

I love Bioware games :wub:and i want them to continue to develop for the PS3. This is a damned good first go at it from my point of view. Shows cash and tells Bioware to "keep them comin"......

BTW, did any of you ever stop to think if the Bioware guys are here answering questions, then they ain't working on a patch or DLC for the PS3 version?

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[Wicked 702]

I'm confused why you PS3 users think the Xbox is getting better support? We aren't. It's not like we've gotten some miracle patch and you haven't. We got a ****** up one that did nothing but bad. We got a mistake by some Microsoft tech that released RTO early. We didn't ACTUALLY get it for real.

Ok, so maybe the end result is that we will see the DLC a week or two before you. That much appears to be true with the newest information. But support? What support?

Edit: As someone who has spent many hours trying to help his fellow Xbox players fix the problems with our "patch", I can honestly say you aren't missing anything grand.

Modifié par Wicked 702, 29 janvier 2010 - 03:02 .

[Larry L]

I'm so sick of all the complaining about the PS3 version. Here's the fact jack, we got the superior console version. If you don't agree because we have a slight framerate dip when you're rotating the camera 360 degrees, well I feel sorry for you that you feel so entitled to get complete perfection. The fact is, on PS3 the game runs fine. At the very least it has FAR less technical problems than the other 2 versions, and graphically the PS3 version is ALMOST on par with the PC version when it comes to textures, whereas the 360 version isn't even close.



The only thing that came out better on 360 was it's framerate. Everything else is worse. Have you PLAYED the 360 version? I have.....The pop-in is crazy. And look at the number of complaints in the 360 sub-forum. They literally have double the amount of issues. And the PS3 version didn't have all the crazy issues with DLC not working like the other 2 versions. The PS3 version came out great. In fact I think the PS3 version had a far better and more rigorous testing cycle. Is it 100% perfect, no. But considering the game came out so great on BioWare's first outing on the PS3, with it's "supposedly" difficult hardware, they deserve Kudos, not rediculous talk of a Boycott.



And about all that talk of the PS3 being difficult to develop for, I call BS on alot of that talk. There is a LONG list of cross-platform games that came out better on PS3. And aside from Bayonetta, whenever a 360 version came out better than PS3, it came down to petty things like 300x zooms and pixel counting. Conversely, when a PS3 version came out better, it was apparent to the naked eye and as plain as day. And in some cases, the PS3 version was FAR better. Hell, even Epic games, a company with tons of experience with 360, when they developed UT3 for PS3, it came out absolutely outstanding. Meanwhile the 360 version, even with 6 months of extra development time looked worse, played worse, sounded worse and had less features. And that was Epic's first shot at PS3's hardware. How about Ninja Gaiden 2. Jeez, the graphical difference on that looks a whole console generation apart not to mention more content, more playable characters and online co-op.



There's a laundry list of games that came out better on PS3. You don't hear much about it because it's only popular on the internet to talk about when 360 versions of games come out better even the slightest bit better. But when PS3 versions are noticably better, you better not bring it up, because if you do, you are fanboy scum of the Earth. lol. You gotta love internet double standards, eh?

[Rugerious]

To whoever cause i cant quote (damn internet) I do believe something called a receipt is given when you buy things so you can return its not that hard. TADA fixed the hole

[Joshd21]

Tip one,"Be smart" If you are going to start a boycott...don't do it on the company's website..I mean seriously? if you wish to boycott a company. You are going to register on their fourms and campain and promote it here?

Tip Two,"Don't trust" actually have people that are willing to go through with the boycott. Do you honestly believe random strangers that read this that own a PS3 will cancel any order from Bioware because of a random person on the internet asks them too?....and you believe they will

stick to this Boycott. They will crumble if any do sign up when the next expansion comes out, they will drop faster then the Pre Orders of Mass Effect CE sold out in

Tip Three,"Walk it off" hate to say it but take it like a man..Mac users are suffering far worse then you. They are not even getting support anytime in the nearby future. This game in my own thought was designed just for pc, those who have all other platfourms are suffering minor bugs and glitches

That was your choice to buy the platfourm. Honestly I believe if they were not placing so much man power to fix the issues with the other consoles, it would flow alot more smoothly. As far as I know anything errored with PC verizon they were able to patch it up

[dkjestrup]

Larry L wrote...

I'm so sick of all the complaining about the PS3 version. Here's the fact jack, we got the superior console version. If you don't agree because we have a slight framerate dip when you're rotating the camera 360 degrees, well I feel sorry for you that you feel so entitled to get complete perfection. The fact is, on PS3 the game runs fine. At the very least it has FAR less technical problems than the other 2 versions, and graphically the PS3 version is ALMOST on par with the PC version when it comes to textures, whereas the 360 version isn't even close.

I'm sorry. WHAT!?!?!?

Our graphics are hardly better than the 360. Not even close to the PC. Not to mention that the PC has mods.  We have the same bugs as the other versions, except the PC version was patched ages ago, and the 360 will be soon. Dexterity doesn't work on daggers! Deathblow is broken! Among others. The 360 has more posts, because.... There are more 360 users on this site!

And it's never too much to expect an unbroken game, or at least expect support for the bugs. Complacency like this is why the entire world is getting worse. Just about every industry gets more and more monopolized.

[atomic_gas_demon]

brunomalta wrote...

We have a right to complain since we bought a product from then and it came out bugged. We are not asking a lot, only some answers from someone from Bioware.

tell me about it

[atomic_gas_demon]

dkjestrup wrote...

Larry L wrote...

I'm so sick of all the complaining about the PS3 version. Here's the fact jack, we got the superior console version. If you don't agree because we have a slight framerate dip when you're rotating the camera 360 degrees, well I feel sorry for you that you feel so entitled to get complete perfection. The fact is, on PS3 the game runs fine. At the very least it has FAR less technical problems than the other 2 versions, and graphically the PS3 version is ALMOST on par with the PC version when it comes to textures, whereas the 360 version isn't even close.

I'm sorry. WHAT!?!?!?

Our graphics are hardly better than the 360. Not even close to the PC. Not to mention that the PC has mods.  We have the same bugs as the other versions, except the PC version was patched ages ago, and the 360 will be soon. Dexterity doesn't work on daggers! Deathblow is broken! Among others. The 360 has more posts, because.... There are more 360 users on this site!

And it's never too much to expect an unbroken game, or at least expect support for the bugs. Complacency like this is why the entire world is getting worse. Just about every industry gets more and more monopolized.

360 has square graph lol plus you have to pay for the internet
most of my friends perfer ps3 but is to late for them to buy it. i think there is not excuse for not fixing this problem and why they should get other stuff fixed first, can't they do it all at once. 360 people post more cuz there use to complaining, especially for the red ring of dead.

[Larry L]

dkjestrup wrote...

Larry L wrote...

I'm so sick of all the complaining about the PS3 version. Here's the fact jack, we got the superior console version. If you don't agree because we have a slight framerate dip when you're rotating the camera 360 degrees, well I feel sorry for you that you feel so entitled to get complete perfection. The fact is, on PS3 the game runs fine. At the very least it has FAR less technical problems than the other 2 versions, and graphically the PS3 version is ALMOST on par with the PC version when it comes to textures, whereas the 360 version isn't even close.

I'm sorry. WHAT!?!?!?

Our graphics are hardly better than the 360. Not even close to the PC. Not to mention that the PC has mods.  We have the same bugs as the other versions, except the PC version was patched ages ago, and the 360 will be soon. Dexterity doesn't work on daggers! Deathblow is broken! Among others. The 360 has more posts, because.... There are more 360 users on this site!

And it's never too much to expect an unbroken game, or at least expect support for the bugs. Complacency like this is why the entire world is getting worse. Just about every industry gets more and more monopolized.

No, you're wrong on multiple levels and right on one or two.

1st, "our" graphics are quite a bit better than 360. Look at any comparisons on the web. Gametrailers has a really good one showing all 3 side by side, scene for scene. All the environment textures throughout the whole game look FAR better on PS3. "Ours" uses the higher rez textures of the PC version. You can see it in the video I refered you to, and also David Silverman from BioWare stated that fact on the Dragon Age episode of "On The Spot". Now I'm not at all saying the PS3 version looks as good as the PC version, before you take me out of context like so many forum people do on the web. The PC version used higher rez textures in other areas that the PS3 version doesn't, like character's hair. The PS3 version uses the same low res hair textures as 360, but ALL the environments use the higher rez textures of the PC version. The 360 doesn't. It uses alot of these low rez, blurry textures all over the place. Watch the Gametrailers vid. It's very telling.

2nd. "We" don't have ALL the same bugs. There were a handfull of bugs/glitches present in both the PC and 360 versions not in the PS3 version. One example would be the level up glitch is Ostagar. That bug was caught on the PS3 version, suggesting to me that the PS3 version had it's own seperate and more thorough testing cycle. All versions are basically the same game though, so it's no surprize that alot of the same bugs made it through on all versions. And by the way, what is it with everyone talking about this "dex bug"? Now I don't know the specifics on it besides the reference, but I do know that on Liliana I pump her dex and her damage continues to grow (with bows). As for the PC version beig patched, yea, that's the PC version, and it's not like all the problems are fixed with that anyway. I'm more comparring to the 360 specifically, which hasn't been patched, and if that 360 patched DIDN'T break the game (which it did), it would heve been released for PS3 as well soon after. As soon as the 360 version gets the (working) patch, expect it for the PS3 as well, although that patch doesn't really fix anything, and you're just going to be disappointed if you are expecting it to.

EDIT------nvm about the dex bug thingy, I just noticed you said for daggers.----/EDIT

And I would say on a philosophical note, that the reason the world is getting worse, is because people get so upset and spend their time complaining and crying about little tiny, inconsequencial (sp?), petty things like little bugs in video games, and being completely complacent on big things that actually negatively affect human society (things I won't bother getting into on a video game forum).

Modifié par Larry L, 29 janvier 2010 - 08:56 .

[Quill74Pen]

I will *not* partake in any so-called boycott of Bioware products.

It's disappointing that so many thread contributors apparently had horrible experiences with their copies of DA:O, but I did not. In fact, the only major framerate issue I can remember is at the end of the battle against the archdemon. That was particularly bad because I thought my PS3 had frozen. But other than for that, there really wasn't anything else noticeable, let alone game breaking.

Keep up the *excellent* work Bioware, and I look forwad to any patches and downloadable content you might release in the future for the PS3 version of DA:O.

Quill74Pen