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Good video Mgamerz thanks for sharing it, there are still plenty of players that don't know how this works!

And yes, she can sync kill during the teleport phase if the latency is high, on host you have a very small window of time to get away with a dodge (almost impossible in some cases with kits that can't dodge).

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Hell I just had it explained to me and I still don't know how it works
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Good tutorial my friend! I already knew her tricks but it does help getting the scientific approach so that one can milk her more.

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Tell it to everyone who's had a banshee teleport next to them and insta grab

 

I gladly will. They probably weren't hosting, or were suffering from lag even on their host ;)

 

Yeah, unless "some time that needs to pass" translates to roughly 1.5 seconds, at which point you might still be in "wait, there's a banshee there?" mode.

 

It's much less than 1.5 seconds. It's a small enough window that its existance, from your point of view, depends heavily on latency.

 

Then the "she can't instantly sync after teleporting" claim has been debunked, aw yeah. B)

 

Uhm... No, that's not a claim actually, it's a fact. Facts can't be debunked.

 

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Lmao that had me crackin! :lol:

 

Hell I just had it explained to me and I still don't know how it works

 

Welp I hate to link very old threads of mine, but I'm too lazy to go all over it once again.

 

So you'll excuse my poor wording, explaining, comprehension and understand that this thread was from... 2013? But still contains useful information on this.


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So you'll excuse my poor wording, explaining, comprehension and understand that this thread was from... 2013? But still contains useful information on this.

once she s in sync mode, and restart jumping around, cause i left, i think i can safely charge her (on host and dodge) after few jumps or smtg ? Not sure anymore.

 

(worse noting that a banshee is in sync mode at spawn)


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When a banshee spawns she is not in charged mode. However killing other enemies, being seen, cloaking, shooting things, or breathing will alert her to you and will almost always make her trigger charged mode and scream.

I can't understand whatever the first part of what you wrote is. Please use full words.
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once she s in sync mode, and restart jumping around, cause i left, i think i can safely charge her (on host and dodge) after few jumps or smtg ? Not sure anymore.

 

(worse noting that a banshee is in sync mode at spawn)

 

Yes, you can safely charge her whenever she is jumping around, if you're hosting and you can dodge (and aren't lagging on your host). Even the first jump is already cool. You only have to avoid her when she's walking slowly or when she just ended a jump but hasn't really started another.

 

When a banshee spawns she is not in charged mode. However killing other enemies, being seen, cloaking, shooting things, or breathing will alert her to you and will almost always make her trigger charged mode and scream.

I can't understand whatever the first part of what you wrote is. Please use full words.

 

Banshees spawn triggered for sync kills tho. Never charge a Banshee that just spawned, she's gonna give ya a nice hug ;)


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Banshees will walk to melee if they are within 5 meters after any jump in charged mode still. If you vanguard to them and they jumping you immediately put yourself in range. As soon as she starts walking (which you probably won't see since its like 1 frame) you are vulnerable.

Charged and uncharged banshees can walk. Only charged banshees can do any sort of melee.
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... sorry just to clarify... when a Banshee isnt teleporting I can melee her without her killing me???



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... sorry just to clarify... when a Banshee isnt teleporting I can melee her without her killing me???

 

Not really. She may not be teleporting, but walking and she still can kill you. You need to wait till she starts throwing Warp balls, then you can melee her. Or you can just be on stairs/incline/decline and melee her without any worries (you just need to be above or below her, not on the same elevation)


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... so if im on a ramp she cant get me???



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Darth Volus

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... so if im on a ramp she cant get me???

 

If you're below or above her - no, she can't kill you. No sync-kill enemy can. 


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Ok thanks ;) im gonna punch banshees now ;)


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I tried to tell the Banshee that was teleporting towards me that she can't synch-kill me right after a teleport. I never heard her reply because she teleported to me and synch-killed me.

 

I'll try telling her it's against the rules next time, see if that works.


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Banshees will walk to melee if they are within 5 meters after any jump in charged mode still. If you vanguard to them and they jumping you immediately put yourself in range. As soon as she starts walking (which you probably won't see since its like 1 frame) you are vulnerable.

Charged and uncharged banshees can walk. Only charged banshees can do any sort of melee.

 

It's not one frame. It's enough to dodge out of the sync range pretty much 100% of the times on host.



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... so if im on a ramp she cant get me???


If you're on a ramp but she's on a flat surface at the top or bottom of the ramp she can still get you
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If you're below or above her - no, she can't kill you. No sync-kill enemy can.

Incorrect. The enemy must be on the ramp. If you are but she isn't, she can still sync kill you.

https://youtu.be/ks0hmDvp3ug
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Darth Volus

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Incorrect. The enemy must be on the ramp. If you are but she isn't, she can still sync kill you.

 

Well duh. Plus her range isn't modded 12 meters. If you're on a ramp, she will most likely be on the ramp too. 



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Wow, look at that goalpost bend!



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Well duh. Plus her range isn't modded 12 meters. If you're on a ramp, she will most likely be on the ramp too.

Praetorian had a 5 meter range. Well beyond its 3 meter melee range.

Additionally if she is on cover and you are in that cover (say a counter) she can pick you up through it. Praetorians can sync you through thin cover.

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It's much less than 1.5 seconds. It's a small enough window that its existance, from your point of view, depends heavily on latency.

 

It's a small enough window that, off-host, you can be synced by a Banshee while in mid-sprint, even if you have an Adrenaline Mod III.



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Praetorian had a 5 meter range. Well beyond its 3 meter melee range.

Additionally if she is on cover and you are in that cover (say a counter) she can pick you up through it. Praetorians can sync you through thin cover.

 

Which is working as intended  :P

 

They can sync kill you trough a freaking thick cover as-well for all they care, I know Atlas/Praetorian grabbed me trough a big container a couple of times. They just do what they wish. 


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It's a small enough window that, off-host, you can be synced by a Banshee while in mid-sprint, even if you have an Adrenaline Mod III.

 

Absolutely, yeah. Off host anything can happen XD

 

Which is working as intended  :P

 

They can sync kill you trough a freaking thick cover as-well for all they care, I know Atlas/Praetorian grabbed me trough a big container a couple of times. They just do what they wish. 

 

I've been grabbed by Atlases through thick walls more times than I care to remember.



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I don't really believe an atlas can sync you through thick walls. Never seen it happen.

 

Spoiler

 

 

this game's design is just too Good for that


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... so if im on a ramp she cant get me???

As long as you aren't standing beside her,no she can't sync you.