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How does a previous SP only player git gud at MP?


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#76
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Me? On PC? 

 

 

 

Not yet. 

So there is hope? :wizard:


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Random thoughts on the matter:

 

- Counter-Intuitive Lesson Time: When that screaming Banshee is bearing down on you, race to the nearest ramp. Hide on the ramp, preferably so that you are lower than she is. Then stick your face in her crotch. Incredibly, this is the second-safest position to be in when facing a Banshee (the safest position is anywhere away from her while there is another teammate drawing aggro from her crotch.)

 

 

 

 

Is there a video link for this?

 

Guess i've got some reading/watching to do, me3 resource library is big. :blink:



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That's what everyone thinks about their internetz these days and people are hosting with horrible connections. You can actually check your jitter and packets online here: http://freeola.com/line-test/ Jitter is as bad as packet loss because packets arrive after they are expected. Which messes things even more.

Well, I ran the tests and everything is below problem levels.

 

Don't know what to tell you, maybe it's on your end?



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Well, I ran the tests and everything is below problem levels.

 

Don't know what to tell you, maybe it's on your end?

Below is how below? Do you have lost packets? If you do have even one or two, this is your main problem. What's your jitter? I'm sure your internetz is good enough to watch movies as that is what  90% of people do and what "the problems" are pointing at. But you realize that each lost or mistimed packet means powers not hitting, players getting synced when they should not, grenades not exploding and tele-tele-tele-porting. It can be wireless router, concrete walls, your ISP, cosmic radiation, FBI running their background checks, Russian hackers hacking and million other reasons you can or cannot control.

 

My end is more or less clean. I know my connection is on the medium speed but usually very stable. Unless it is weekend Game of Thrones night. And I host only about 1/4 or 1/5 of the games I play unlike some other people who insist on hosting all time every time. Very few complain and they are mostly from New South Wales. Beijing and Moscow are doing just fine. And you say yourself that you have problems filling the lobby while hosting, so I'm not the only one apparently.


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Well, I ran the tests and everything is below problem levels.

 

Don't know what to tell you, maybe it's on your end?

 

Pretty sure I've played some games on your host before, albeit a long time ago, and they're about as stable as can be expected with this game's awful netcode. 


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About the only advice I would give, from one older player to another, is pick a kit from each class practice on it and get it up to lvl 20 and just play that for a while. Learn how it plays, and then pick another kit and play it and so on. Also check out the thread where all of the pc players put their information and send out invites.

 


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About the only advice I would give, from one older player to another, is pick a kit from each class practice on it and get it up to lvl 20 and just play that for a while. Learn how it plays, and then pick another kit and play it and so on. Also check out the thread where all of the pc players put their information and send out invites.

 

 

Thanks.  Out of likes.

 

Found the thread.



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........... I'm over 50 and started playing late so the twitch skills aren't there. 

 

Surprisingly enough an awful lot of us here are "Old Farts".  Mid 30's to mid 50's is the age spread. That, there blew me away when I first joined.


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Below is how below? Do you have lost packets? If you do have even one or two, this is your main problem. What's your jitter? I'm sure your internetz is good enough to watch movies as that is what  90% of people do and what "the problems" are pointing at. But you realize that each lost or mistimed packet means powers not hitting, players getting synced when they should not, grenades not exploding and tele-tele-tele-porting. It can be wireless router, concrete walls, your ISP, cosmic radiation, FBI running their background checks, Russian hackers hacking and million other reasons you can or cannot control.

 

My end is more or less clean. I know my connection is on the medium speed but usually very stable. Unless it is weekend Game of Thrones night. And I host only about 1/4 or 1/5 of the games I play unlike some other people who insist on hosting all time every time. Very few complain and they are mostly from New South Wales. Beijing and Moscow are doing just fine. And you say yourself that you have problems filling the lobby while hosting, so I'm not the only one apparently.

As in, none of the issues. Jitter is 4ms, no lost packets.

 

Granted that the servers for this game are awful to begin with (as is customary with a non-multiplayer focused game when it comes to EA), it might also be where you're connecting from. It sounds to me you're located in the EU, whereas I'm NA.

 

Edit: I don't have problems FILLING the server. I have problems getting teammates. The second 1 person joins the lobby, the other 2 follow suit almost immediately. There's also certain times of the day where I can start a lobby and get players immediately, but that doesn't happen often.



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Surprisingly enough an awful lot of us here are "Old Farts".  Mid 30's to mid 50's is the age spread. That, there blew me away when I first joined.

 

 I'm greatly relieved by this surprising news.


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 I'm greatly relieved by this surprising news.

Give me a few years and I'll join you lads.



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Give me a few years and I'll join you lads.

 

 

It's the maturity, not the age.  Anyway if you hang out with old farts you are one. :rolleyes:


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It's the maturity, not the age.  Anyway if you hang out with old farts you are one. :rolleyes:

Guess that settles that then, I've never hung out with people my age. Always ran with an older crowd.



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Guess that settles that then, I've never hung out with people my age. Always ran with an older crowd.

 

 

I want to hang out with some early 20yo girls.  It's time to be a dirty old man.

 

still out of likes


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Lots of great advice here already! I second the sentiment that situational awareness is the most important thing.

 

My further two cents is to learn the layout of the maps: where there is cover, where the best bottlenecks are, where you can be flanked.

Remember: there are always at most 8 enemies on the map at any given time! That means that there is likely a spot on the map that you can move to, in order to regroup.

Enemies love to flank you, so keep on your toes, and watch your back! Units respawn and immediately start converging on players. Once you develop a feeling for maps and spawn points, you can start predicting how much time you can hold a given position, and where to best move.

 

My final advice is to move out of bronze as soon as possible. Find a caster class you like (the basic adept and engineers are really powerful, as they can string chains of either biotic or tech/fire combos), and you can do well on silver even without good equipment. On bronze, bosses do not respawn once you kill them, so prioritizing them is generally the best strategy; on silver and above, however, bosses do respawn, and concentrating on them is a great way to get flanked by something nasty and get killed. Leaving bosses for last, while focusing on mooks is a much more effective strategy.

 

Have fun playing! :)


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As in, none of the issues. Jitter is 4ms, no lost packets.

 

Granted that the servers for this game are awful to begin with (as is customary with a non-multiplayer focused game when it comes to EA), it might also be where you're connecting from. It sounds to me you're located in the EU, whereas I'm NA.

 

Edit: I don't have problems FILLING the server. I have problems getting teammates. The second 1 person joins the lobby, the other 2 follow suit almost immediately. There's also certain times of the day where I can start a lobby and get players immediately, but that doesn't happen often.

No, I'm on East Coast. And sorry, no again, that's not what you wrote about your problems on previous page.

 

Then why does it take 10 years for my lobbies to fill up?


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That doesn't make any sense, I've got really good internet.

 

Seems more like a restricted NAT problem than good internet. Also you might have downloaded that patch for 1.06 exe.


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#93
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Less posting. More playing.



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Out of everyone from this thread I have the best tip evaaaar!!!!!:

 

Play with people who play less good than you, that way you'll always end up highest in the scoreboard which will boost your confidence which will automatically make you better and which will want you to keep achieving moar  <_<


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There is no secret to it other than playing the game and progressing over time. The more you play the more you learn step by step.

I used to be an SP only player also until I discovered MP, after that there were no going back to the slow and simple combat of SP again, it takes some time to getting used to as everything is faster and you can't pause, but once you get used to it the continuous and uninterrupted flow of MP is just way more fun.
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Oh yeah, it's all coming back to me now. Spectator mode was how I learned.


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Out of everyone from this thread I have the best tip evaaaar!!!!!:

 

Play with people who play less good than you, that way you'll always end up highest in the scoreboard which will boost your confidence which will automatically make you better and which will want you to keep achieving moar  <_<

Actually, there are some legitimately good reasons why you don't want to play with people too far above your level. For one, it's harder to develop as a player when your teammates kill everything for you. It's also really frustrating and boring imo. And if everyone you're playing with isn't TOO experienced, you're forced to work harder as a team, which is also really handy to learn. :)


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Actually, there are some legitimately good reasons why you don't want to play with people too far above your level. For one, it's harder to develop as a player when your teammates kill everything for you. It's also really frustrating and boring imo. And if everyone you're playing with isn't TOO experienced, you're forced to work harder as a team, which is also really handy to learn. :)

 

I know!!! I was sooo frustrated not so long ago about this particular thing and posted about it here on the bsn. People have been awesome and helpful by carrying me through platinum games ever since I first started but it's also made me not learn my own play style because they got all the kills and I mostly hid and stayed out of sight or kept dying or got damn frustrated from dying. 

 

The credits were an awesome help for a noob and also the quick leveling up plus they all gave me some really valuable tips but it also had some downsides.


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I play with good players who (I think) dont have every gun in the game and I also play on low difficulty and that works for me :)


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The person I play a lot of my matches with is at a higher skill level than I am, sometimes to the point of it being really irritating, but I've gone back to pugging in the past few days and discovered that a) it could be much worse (like, players with CP over 100k just demolishing everything), and B) compared to a lot of normal pugs I'm actually not too bad. :D


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