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[shodiswe]

Maybe the Humans built/paid for most of it?

 

The Human shipyards might have built them but the Council probably provided the funds, aswell as possibly funds from the species involved, and it was likely top secret. The other species probably provided equipment and tech for it aswell as a joint project even if it might have been built at human shipyards.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if the Ark ships were built at the same location as the Cruisible but the Ark ships were built first then Hacket utilised the leftover infrastructure and materials to jumpstart the Crusible construction.

 

I like this theory. The hardest to get onboard would be the Quarians who are so tightly knit and it would be hard to get enough Quarians to sign on secretly and still leave enough for their crazy personal war to which everyone was recalled, including the exiled.

The Geth might also be some what difficult with their limited diplomatic status, maybe if they found out about the project and promiced to supply the project with much needed tech and resources and possibly manpower, they would be ideal for working the hulls in vacum. They also wanted to escape the Reapers or survive them any way possible.

 

It can be done and that's what handwavium is there for, to make it easier to build a good story..  Question is, does each and every species target their own cluster in Andromeda? Does that mean Humanity is alone in the Helios except for a few alien mission specialists assigned to help your efforts?

 

We have been told that the other Clusters would be explored in later games. So it's planned to happen.

[DextroDNA]

 

I'm crappy at mythology, but the 12 titans are as follows and their associations:

 

 

1 Oceanus (Oceans)

 

2 Tethys (nourishing water)

 

3 Coeus (intellect)

 

4 Cronus (time)

 

5 Crius (constellations?)

 

6 Hyperion (light, wisdom and watchfulness)

 

7 Iapetus (Craftsmanship)

 

8 Themis (law and undisputed order)

 

9 Phoebe (moon; prophecy)

 

10 Mnemosyne (memory)

 

11 Theia ( divine; goddess; light; beauty)

 

12 Rhea (mother of gods; mountains)

 

 

 

I tried to match it up with the 12 species, and while some I could get, others I could not, so i'll leave it at this. Please correct any I did wrong if you'd like.

 

 

I can link a few...

 

• Coeus(Intellect)=Salarians
• Theia(divine etc)=Asari
• Themis(Law and order)=Turians
• Iapetus(Craftsmanship)=Quarians
• Hyperion is probably humanity
• Oceanus(oceans)=Hanar
• Mnemosyne(memory)=Drell
• Rhea(mountains)=Krogan or perhaps Elcor

[samagent]

Hyperion was 1 of 4 brothers. Most likely there will be 4 Arks. In the E3 2016 trailer, you can see the 4 Arks.

 

Hyperion  

Coeus

Cruis

Iapetos

 

They were the four corners of the Earth (north, south, east, west). 

*Side note, just gave Ghost Riders In The Sky a listen, there are RYDERS not RYDER*

[Vortex13]

I hope all the ships aren't named after titans because that would be silly.

If I'm a salarian or whatever why would I name my ship after some human myth? Don't my people have our own myths and legends?

 

 

Kinda like how the Federation in Star Trek, despite being a multi species alliance, still names all of their ships after human cities, or places, or notable events….

[samagent]

Hyperion, begin 1 of 4 brothers, could also mean; 4 species. Human, Krogan, Salarian, Asari. 

[Fogg]

It was found on BSN in the E3 trailer thread, the poster on Reddit even says so.

 

All your speculation was there too, before posted on Reddit. For example: the leak says the game takes place in the Helius Cluster. Hyperion's son in named Helios, Andromeda's son Helius.

 

[shodiswe]

Kinda like how the Federation in Star Trek, despite being a multi species alliance, still names all of their ships after human cities, or places, or notable events….

Most maybe, but not all.

[nfi42]

Why would non human ships have an human named ship?

 

Hyperion = human ship is a good bet.

[Monk]

 

Something recently discovered by a user on reddit. One of the ARK ships from the E3 2016 trailer is called "Hyperion:

 

Pointed out in the comments of the post, Hyperion in Greek mythology was one of 12 siblings; Mnemosyne, Tethys, Theia, Phoebe, Rhea, Themis, Oceanus, Hyperion, Coeus, Cronus, Crius, and Iapetus. These are the 12 Titans.

 

If there are 12 ARK ships, that means there could be one for each of the 12 races from the Milky Way; Asari, Salarian, Turian, Human, Krogan, Quarian, Volus, Hanar, Drell, Elcor, Batarian, Vorcha(/Geth).

 

Thoughts? Might we actually be bringing all the races from the Milky Way with us? Also, forgive me if this has been posted already on the BSN somewhere!

 

edit: something I've just found... One of the children of Hyperion is called "Helios". Many of you will probably remember the old leak where it was said we'll be exploring the "Helius" Cluster in Andromeda. Coincidence? I think not.

 

I also tried linking some of the Milky Way species with traits associated with the 12 Titans:

Spoiler

• Coeus(Intellect)=Salarians
• Theia(divine etc)=Asari
• Themis(Law and order)=Turians
• Iapetus(Craftsmanship)=Quarians
• Hyperion is probably humanity
• Oceanus(oceans)=Hanar
• Mnemosyne(memory)=Drell
• Rhea(mountains)=Krogan or perhaps Elcor

 

 

That's a cool find! I honestly don't care if all the races, including the Geth, show up for this grand adventure. More variety the better, though limiting would help in development i'd imagine.

 

The only thing having that many ships doesn't explain is why would Ryder's squad be mixed. I prefer the mix up but if each race has its own major ship, why would they band together like that.

 

This is unless they decide to stay together – safety in numbers – and setup squads/explorer teams to be a variety as both a complement of strengths, as well as a visual reminder that this is for everyone, this exploration.

[DextroDNA]

It was found on BSN in the E3 trailer thread, the poster on Reddit even says so.

 

All your speculation was there too, before posted on Reddit. For example: the leak says the game takes place in the Helius Cluster. Hyperion's son in named Helios, Andromeda's son Helius.

 

I wasn't aware, didn't read far enough into the thread to see his comment on the source. I also apologised in the OP if it had already been discussed elsewhere. No need to be a jackass.

 

Better with it's own thread anyway

[mopotter]

The races have to live separately? Well, it doesn't matter, as long as the living condition is equal. Separation but equal. 

Wouldn't some of them almost have to live separately?   Though if they are all in some kind of sleep it probably wouldn't matter, just hook them up to the nutrients they need.

 

Food needs if nothing else.  Each ship having it's own environment for that species so they are comfortable for the long trip.  I know some of them like Turians and quarians can eat the same things, but humans have trouble with some things.  

 

Interesting idea.

[Notshauna]

Hyperion, begin 1 of 4 brothers, could also mean; 4 species. Human, Krogan, Salarian, Asari. 

Honestly the fact they are bringing to Krogan means that they are going wide. Turians are much better candidates for this project, and absolutely would be invited by every race's funding. I can't even begin to express the dangers of having Krogan along, with the genophage it's difficult for them to maintain a stable population and without they are capable of out breeding humans 1000 to 1. I've said it before and I'll say it again, the Krogan are HUGE outliers here, outside of their fan popularity they have no leg to stand on for the Ark project. Hell even the Batarians, have better diplomatic ties than the Krogan.

[Monk]

Wouldn't some of them almost have to live separately?   Though if they are all in some kind of sleep it probably wouldn't matter, just hook them up to the nutrients they need.

 

Food needs if nothing else.  Each ship having it's own environment for that species so they are comfortable for the long trip.  I know some of them like Turians and quarians can eat the same things, but humans have trouble with some things.  

 

Interesting idea.

 

I would think for survival purposes they would want to include all species in every Ark, in case the Reapers or some other aggressive species finds them before being ready for battle or arriving in Andromeda.

[UpUpAway]

... or maybe it's 4 ships each for 3 of the ME:A species.

 

I hope all the ships aren't named after titans because that would be silly.

If I'm a salarian or whatever why would I name my ship after some human myth? Don't my people have our own myths and legends?

 

If you never questioned why most of the planets and clusters in the Milky Way had names with connections to human mythology and human history, why start with that line of questioning about ME:A?  The names are human because IRL, you're human... and it's humans buying the games... who generally like little nods to their own earth-bound histories in their fictional literature.  For all we know, it's just a Greek mythological name selected because, you know, Andromeda is a Greek name, Helios is a Greek name, etc.

[fchopin]

It would be great if there are more Ark ships and more races go to Andromeda as that would explain why there are races with us in Andromeda and it would not be just human colonies.

[ArcadiaGrey]

Nice find.

 

First off I seriously doubt they'd separate species into different vessels.  If one failed you'd lose an entire species, better to have a cross section on each ark.

 

Second, would the council races make a ship just for the Vorcha or the Elcor???  Can't see it tbh.  

 

Others have said Hyperion is one of 4 brothers, 4 ships seems way more likely to me.  

[Fogg]

Nice find.

 

First off I seriously doubt they'd separate species into different vessels.  If one failed you'd lose an entire species, better to have a cross section on each ark.

 

Second, would the council races make a ship just for the Vorcha or the Elcor???  Can't see it tbh.  

 

Others have said Hyperion is one of 4 brothers, 4 ships seems way more likely to me.  

 

I think he's one of six brothers, but only four of them conspired against their father

[Gileadan]

*Side note, just gave Ghost Riders In The Sky a listen, there are RYDERS not RYDER*

Also, the ghost riders are doomed souls in that song, so if "ghost riders" refers to the protagonist and their family, things might be looking grim.

[MrFob]

It's an fun little theory. However, one prerequisite would be that the ARK ships are all built (or at least that the project is directed) by the Alliance. If the different races build their own ships, why would they name them after creatures of ancient earth mythology? Since I personally hope that humanity will not again be the absolute super-power that really shouldn't be one, I also have to hope that this naming scheme doesn't happen.

 

I like how you matched some of the Titan's traits with the races though (although, I doubt the Drell will get their own ARK)

[Aimi]

Apart from all this speculation, there were more than twelve Titans. The name "Titan" was applied to a whole mess of gods, somewhat indiscriminately.

There were the twelve Ouranides, the children of Ouranos. He had six sons, Kronos, Koios, Okeanos, Hyperion, Iapetos, and Krios; and six daughters, Rhea, Tethys, Mnemosyne, Phoibe, Theia, and Themis. (Why the original author of the Titans = Arks post didn't link "Krios" to the drell is beyond me. )

Then there were the four Iapetionides, the children of Iapetos, who were also called Titanes. They rounded out the most famous of the Titanes and Titanides: Atlas, Prometheus, Epimetheus, and Menoitios.

Most of the Titanes and Titanides were the descendants of the children of Ouranos, except for when they weren't. (Olympian Zeus and his siblings, for instance, weren't ever called Titanes, despite being the progeny of Kronos and Rhea.) Sometimes, deities that were Titanes were given backstories in certain Greek tales that would have made it impossible for them to actually be Titanes, like Mnemosyne, who was sometimes rewritten as one of the OG Mousai.

Other Titanes and Titanides that are reasonably well known to modern students of Greek mythology include Leto (mother of Apollon and Artemis); the Hyperionides, Eos (Dawn), Selene (Moon), and Helios (Sun); and Hekate (a deity associated with magic).

Many of these deities have already appeared in the ME setting in some form. Thane's surname is Krios. Kronos, Atlas, and Prometheus were locations in the Overlord DLC. Mnemosyne is the planet that the Derelict Reaper is orbiting in ME2. And then there's Hyperion, which is actually the name of an SF/F book series from twenty years ago by Dan Simmons. Hyperion and The Fall of Hyperion both won the Locus, and Hyperion won the Hugo. The resolution of the conflict at the end of The Fall of Hyperion has a great deal in common with the ending of Mass Effect 3 (and, incidentally, with the creation of the Veil described in the Dragon Age DLC Trespasser).

Anyway. Just a bit of context. I don't know if this theory has anything going for it or not, because I'm not in the prediction business.

[SNascimento]

Seems to be a very smart decision to put an entire race in an Ark. It's not like a never before made journey to another galaxy offers any danger. 

Seriously now, every ark should have whatever races are going to Andromeda. So if one fails, the others can handle it. 

[nfi42]

and Pyjacks.

[Gannayev of Dreams]

An interesting theory, but I somehow doubt they got that involved or had the resources for that many ark ships. Or would segregate it so perfectly by species. From the promotional material so far it seems like just one large ark that basically serves as a mobile Citadel.

[dreamgazer]

-speculation debunking snip-

Anyway. Just a bit of context. I don't know if this theory has anything going for it or not, because I'm not in the prediction business.

 

Attaching Hyperion to mythology and, perhaps, the Simmons novel? Probably.

 

There being twelve (or more!) ark ships? Probably not.

[RandomSyhn]

I like the idea behind this. I'm mostly curious why all the arts would be sent to the same galaxy. I'll admit my space knowledge is fairly limited so it could totally be a distance thing, but I wouldn't put all my chickens in one basket. Having multiple races on each ark and sending them in different directions would maximize the potential for survival, wouldn't it?