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[Heathen Oxman]

I think the Qun was never as simple as people wanted to think it was, and now that we're finally exploring those nuances everyone's crying "retcon!" Really, Sten said it best:

Warden: Tell me about your people.
Sten: No.
Warden: Please?
Sten: People are not simple. They cannot be summarized for easy reference in the manner of: "The elves are a lithe, pointy-eared people who excel at poverty."

 

^ This.

 

For the first two games, it's made rather clear that "Qun logic" is weird and alien to non-adherents.

 

In DAI, we found it it was even weirder than we thought. Sten indicated that Qunari had strict gender roles; however, he never mentioned what those roles were actually based on. We just assumed they based them on the genitalia a Qunari is born with because that's how most human societies work.  As it turn out, that's not the case, but it doesn't make it a "retcon" just because players were working off a set of incorrect assumptions.

[Gervaise]

On the mage front, I'm sure Sten says something to the effect that he finds it strange that a mage is allowed to wander around free not under control of anyone.    He wasn't really in a position to do anything about it, so he just consigned it to memory should he ever report back on his discoveries in the south.    He was after all an intelligence gatherer and specifically not supposed to try and impose the strictures of the Qun on the people he encountered.  

 

The Arishok likewise was not really in a position to do anything about a mage Hawke and in any case probably felt it was not his problem so long as they left his compound.    The Arvaarad was out in the field, didn't know Hawke or his mage companions, and therefore followed the rules that he had been given regarding foreign mages.  

 

The lore in World of Thedas makes it absolutely clear how the Qun stand on mages who have been raised outside the Qun; they must be neutralised.   Captured magic users are force fed qamek because they are considered "hopeless cases" who can never been adequately re-educated into the Qun mindset and are a risk because their minds have not been honed to the strictures of the Qun.    So in keeping with the philosophy where nothing is wasted, their minds are destroyed and they become unthinking labourers.

 

Iron Bull plays down this aspect, only acknowledging the leashing and mouth sewing that goes on as part of the training of Qunari trained saarebas when in banter with Dorian.    When the Inquisitor asks him about what life would be like under the Qun, I'm pretty sure he simply says it would not be good for the mages you know, which is an understatement.  He never says to a mage Inquisitor "Actually they'd fill you with qamek and destroy your mind."  

 

Then they muddy the waters even further by having a saarebas in multi-player that has apparently been ordered south by the Qun to serve in the war but without their arvaarad, which goes against everything we have previously been told.   Clearly they feel they can spare the odd mage if it serves the Qun, it will be down to the southerners to deal with them if they become possessed, and if the saarebas returns to them, they will be treated the same as a foreign mage.

[Daerog]

Hahahahahahaha!!

This is perfect. If anyone asks what the Qun is, this is the quick answer.

Enforced harmony.