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Pacific Rim had some interesting things...

 

 

and a great THEME

 

They can nick anything and everything from Pacific Rim, and I'll be ****** ecstatic. Hell, N7-dude's rocket-assisted omni-blade attack from the first trailer is already just a lamer version of this move:

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No offence intended to N7 dude, but it's hard to come out of a comparison with Gipsy Danger not looking substantially less cool.

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It's a two-way street, anyway--Pacific Rim totally riffed on Mass Effect's armour, and looked damn cool doing it, too.


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Even the original Mass Effect wasn't particularly original since it was basically Alistair Reynolds Revelation Space with FTL.
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I want a Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy type universe, where the milky way species arrive and it starts out serious, but then goes all wacky, strange, silly and funny.
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Even the original Mass Effect wasn't particularly original since it was basically Alistair Reynolds Revelation Space with FTL.


After reading the plot synopsis on Wikipedia, I can see the resemblance.

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It's a bit of a complex story now: Humans travel to Andromeda, where they nearly succeed to exterminate an insectoid species with reaper ambitions. Survivors of that species travel back to the MW on a ark ship. So MEA will end by traveling back to the MW, because Earth is in danger and to save Dr Who!



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Planet Of The Apes, John Carter, Aliens, Fifth Element, Prometheus, and few more influence could inspire Andromeda.


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(Honestly, the show would be way more interesting if Murphy was the protagonist. Good or bad, he's at least interesting!)


FWIW, Murphy got off a couple of decent burns on Clarke this season. Actually, one of them sounded like it was directed at the writers -- sort of the way Olenna Tyrell burned the Sand Snakes on behalf of viewers everywhere.
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For the protag this might be handy:

https://www.inkitt.c...ies/scifi/15530

 

For the human exodus and colony situation:

Starfire 05 - Exodus book by David Weber, Steve White and Shirley Meier.

Synopsis here: http://audiobookbay....-shirley-meier/

 

Seeds of Earth by Michael Cobley

Synopsis here: http://audiobookbay....michael-cobley/

 

Andromeda is an opportunity for Bio to create a whole new universe unhindered by baggage from the trilogy.



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Which one?

 

Depending how you look at it, the three games almost belonged to three different franchises...

Can't like twice so I'll add a "this"   ;)



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The Mass Effect Trilogy always gave me more of a Stargate Vibe. I think mainly because Mass Effect is very much a military story and setting; with most of the situations and characters being military. Many of the political figures in Mass Effect are either antagonists or considered not very bright,something Stargate did quite often. Plus the idea of the harnessing and adapting technology from a lost race was a big thing in Stargate, (Though to be fair many scifi stories do that), but many of the things that ended up saving the day was a long lost weapon or device, another thing Stargate did a lot.

 

Mass Effect Andromeda on the other hand I believe will have more of a Battlestar Galactica feel to it. I think the idea of a fleet of ships escaping war to find a new home will point to a lot of similarities to Battlestar.

 

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What if it was Farscape? 

 

The best description of Farscape I ever heard came from the reviewer SFDebris, who referred to it as;

 

"If Star Wars and Red Dwarf had a baby, and that baby ran away and joined the circus..." laugh.png

 

And if Claudia Black might voice another love interest and character in ME, it'd be all the better.


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If we are looking to other forms of science fiction media for Mass Effect: Andromeda to follow, I would like to see BioWare take massive inspiration from Petter Watts' novel Blindsight

 

Plot here: https://en.wikipedia...tts_novel)#Plot

 

Though to be honest, I'm not sure that BioWare would ever want to take ME in that direction. They don't seem to like a setting where humanity is a very small part of a much larger and more powerful universe, where the concepts of what humanity is have diverged to the point of classic notions of 'being human' are outdated, a place where the aliens are well and truly alien. 

 

But a man can dream.



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More blade Runner, firefly, farscape,serenity, Battlestar Galactica, star wars, starship troopers,cowboy Bebop, total recall inspiration and references. Probably not but who knows.

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What if it was Farscape?

What if these 'arks' were never meant to go to Andromeda in the first place? What if somebody cocked up while testing new technology and they ended up a lot frelling further than intended?

'We made it.'

'Actually ma'am, about that . . .'

I don't actually think this will happen of course. I just wanted to make a dumb Farscape joke. I love that show.


Farscape is one of my favorite scifi shows of all time.

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The best description of Farscape I ever heard came from the reviewer SFDebris, who referred to it as;

 

"If Star Wars and Red Dwarf had a baby, and that baby ran away and joined the circus..." laugh.png

 

And if Claudia Black might voice another love interest and character in ME, it'd be all the better.

I love Farscape, but that is about as dead on as it gets.  Thanks for the laugh. :D



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I love Farscape, but that is about as dead on as it gets. Thanks for the laugh. :D

Ka D'argo as a squadmate. :)

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I love Farscape, but that is about as dead on as it gets. Thanks for the laugh. :D


Pretty much. Farscape is hands down the most creative scifi I've seen, but the entire premise sounds like a team of writers got really high and then came up with the pitch for the series. I imagine the board room conversation went something like this:

"Okay, so we are gonna have this astronaut get sucked into a wormhole and spit out in an unknown region of space"

"Cool that sounds awesome"

"And he won't be able to communicate with the aliens, until they inject these translator microbes into his neck"

"Okay, that makes sense in a weird way"

"And he meets this hot chick from a species that is physically identical to humans, some weird bird-man, a dwarf alien who farts a lot that is a king on his planet - oh, and they are gonna fly around on a living ship that's some kind of space whale"

"...alright this is getting a bit weirder"

"Oh and they are all escaped alien convicts on the run. And the space whale can't get pregnant at first because of some alien space whale IUD thing but then they remove it and the second season is about how there is now a baby space whale"

"....you're just ****** with me now, right?"
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Pretty much. Farscape is hands down the most creative scifi I've seen, but the entire premise sounds like a team of writers got really high and then came up with the pitch for the series. I imagine the board room conversation went something like this:

"Okay, so we are gonna have this astronaut get sucked into a wormhole and spit out in an unknown region of space"

"Cool that sounds awesome"

"And he won't be able to communicate with the aliens, until they inject these translator microbes into his neck"

"Okay, that makes sense in a weird way"

"And he meets this hot chick from a species that is physically identical to humans, some weird bird-man, a dwarf alien who farts a lot that is a king on his planet - oh, and they are gonna fly around on a living ship that's some kind of space whale"

"...alright this is getting a bit weirder"

"Oh and they are all escaped alien convicts on the run. And the space whale can't get pregnant at first because of some alien space whale IUD thing but then they remove it and the second season is about how there is now a baby space whale"

"....you're just ****** with me now, right?"

 

 

I loved the alien designs in that show, that plus the fact that they had the literal puppet masters at Jim Henson studios making some awesome creatures that were actually there on set. 



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Seems like Mass Effect got most of its inspiration from the H.P. Lovecraft style of "horror."

And no, not just because the Reapers look like Cthulhu.

Lovecraft more or less created an entire new theme.  The suspense, drama, and terror of the unknown.  Of things unfathomable to you.  Things more alien than extra-terrestrial, whois very way of thinking can be impossible to comprehend.

 

Lovecraft likes to place the reader (or in this case, player) in a role where they almost feel helpless, at the whim of the unknown, just trying to succeed when everything around you is impossibly chaotic and overwhelming.

Seems like Mass Effect takes a lot from this style.



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Even the original Mass Effect wasn't particularly original since it was basically Alistair Reynolds Revelation Space with FTL.


Yep. Toss it in a blender with Babylon 5 and Farscape, and you've got Mass Effect from top to bottom. Not a shred of originality.

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Seems like Mass Effect got most of its inspiration from the H.P. Lovecraft style of "horror."

And no, not just because the Reapers look like Cthulhu.

Lovecraft more or less created an entire new theme.  The suspense, drama, and terror of the unknown.  Of things unfathomable to you.  Things more alien than extra-terrestrial, whois very way of thinking can be impossible to comprehend.

 

Lovecraft likes to place the reader (or in this case, player) in a role where they almost feel helpless, at the whim of the unknown, just trying to succeed when everything around you is impossibly chaotic and overwhelming.

Seems like Mass Effect takes a lot from this style.

 

 

I would say it did in the first game, over the next two titles those Lovecraftian elements were removed. 

 

 

Most people tend to balk at the idea of something being 'beyond our comprehension' which is the first thing most idiviuals thing when they see something's Lovecraft inspired and while I agree with that to an extent, I think what we really need to take from the works of H.P Lovecraft, is more of the cosmic insignificance. Explain things to the player, but keep that sense of scale intact. Never let the player forget that they and their entire species, heck their entire home galaxy is nothing but an microscopic speck of dust compared to the vastness of the universe. Humanity is not anything special, and we are nothing in the grand scheme of things.

 

One thing I really would like to see ME:Andromeda keep, is the sense of scale, space is big after all. I didn't like how the original trilogy had Shepard running from one side of the galaxy to the other, it made everything seem smaller; that and running into the same individuals in a galaxy of trillions. If ME:Andromeda is the start of a new trilogy, I hope we never fully explore the Hellios cluster, that we never venture outside of the small dot on the galaxy map in Andromeda.

 

For example, look at the map for the Traveller RPG setting:

 

http://travellermap.com/

 

That is the sense of scale I would like to see. Very detailed and scientific, and yet very Lovecraftian in how little is actually explored and known about the surrounding galaxy.


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I still must say I never took Sovereign's words *too* seriously. They mattered and they had relevance, but we blew up its body in the final battle regardless. We can then take whatever side we wish: on one hand, we blew up a Reaper and may blow up more (which we end up doing), or we are always messing with things we don't truly understand and will never understand, with forces always beyond us (which shows as the scales increase each game and the negative effects pile up, especially if you decide to take such an interpretation like IT or whatever; personally I have fun with the concept that even Sovereign wasn't really killed and only transferred to the Citadel but eh!)

 

Anyway, point is that I always took *elements* of Mass Effect to be *Lovecraft-ish*. It still boils down everything to being about characters being people, not broader concepts of say existential terror. The latter is more of a backdrop and one that can and will be torn down when plot and character development asks for it. The Reapers were not invincible, as early as ME1. They just thought they were and it was Shepard's triumph of strength/will/whatever-you-think that showed them another way that they never thought there was.



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Lovecraftian? The reapers felt lovecraftian in ME1, but that took a dive when Harbinger lost its brain in ME2 and couldn't mumble more than "this will hurt you". It then became a funny comic book character.


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Lovecraftian? The reapers felt lovecraftian in ME1, but that took a dive when Harbinger lost its brain in ME2 and couldn't mumble more than "this will hurt you". It then became a funny comic book character.

And in ME3 they became Movie!Marvel Chitauri, while Illusive Loki and his merry band of blue-eyed mindslaves took the spotlight.


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Macross....sans the music, love conquers all, and transformable mecha. Im okay with that.

(Hides 'Info High' CD)....